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Bush: Talking to Hamas like talking to Nazis before WWII (Hamas and Iran supports Obama)
CNN ^ | 5/15/2008 | cnn

Posted on 05/15/2008 8:52:15 AM PDT by tobyhill

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- In his first address to Israel's parliament Thursday, President Bush reiterated the United States' "unbreakable" alliance with the Jewish state and denounced calls to negotiate with "terrorists and radicals."

In a speech before the Knesset, Bush compared calls to talk with unnamed terrorist groups as a "foolish delusion" that was suggested before World War II.

"As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared, 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided,' " Bush said. "We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

Former President Jimmy Carter recently wrapped up a trip to the Middle East, which included talks with leaders of Hamas -- an Islamic militant group that controls the Palestinian territory of Gaza.

Carter hoped to persuade Hamas to negotiate with Israel in an attempt to reach a broader Israeli-Palestinian peace deal.

Hamas has not been included in peace talks between Israeli and Palestinian leaders, under President Mahmoud Abbas, who control the West Bank. Israel and the United States refuse to negotiate with Hamas until it renounces terrorism and recognizes Israel's right to exist.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: appeasement; bush; hamas; wwii
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1 posted on 05/15/2008 8:52:19 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Jimmah Carter is the Chamberlain of our times......


2 posted on 05/15/2008 8:56:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: tobyhill

Obama took umbrage over the statement.

Guess he feels guilty.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 8:56:23 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: tobyhill

Bullseye ! Both witless Obammy and Jimmah the Wise.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 8:57:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tobyhill

“Bush compared calls to talk with unnamed terrorist groups as a “foolish delusion””

There he goes, picking on poor Jimmy Carter again. LOL!


5 posted on 05/15/2008 8:58:08 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: tobyhill
Bush said. "We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

But handing them hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars is somehow a fine idea....

L

6 posted on 05/15/2008 8:58:14 AM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: All
I'm hearing that Screamin Dean is demanding McLame apologize for Bush which will probably happen.

The GOP better wise up and fire away because they've already screwed themselves enough and just maybe the American people will appreciate but at the same time fear the truth about the Rats.

7 posted on 05/15/2008 8:59:11 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The MSM and the Rats are demanding an apology from McLame for President Bush even though everything President Bush said was factually based.
8 posted on 05/15/2008 9:01:21 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Too bad he doesnt have the same attitude about Mexico...and it’s UNarmed terrorist invasion...

I give him Props on this though...judging by the sqeals...he nailed them...


9 posted on 05/15/2008 9:01:22 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: tobyhill
Will Sen. McCain disavow Pres. Bush's comments?
10 posted on 05/15/2008 9:01:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush won't defeat Obama. Rev. Wright or Michelle Obama will.)
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To: McGruff

Give him about 30 minutes.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:34 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: McGruff

I bet the fool does.


12 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:41 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

13 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:54 AM PDT by michigander (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Crim

Just heard little snotnosed Tommy bitch about it on CBS radio.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 9:03:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tobyhill

Just when I had lost hope in Bush, too! If only he used his guts more often.


15 posted on 05/15/2008 9:03:45 AM PDT by Gatcko (Bling bling and china!)
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To: tobyhill

Obama is a follower of Black Liberation Theology. Black Liberationists believe that the US is an oppressive, hegemonic, imperialist nation, and as such, they do not support the use of the military by the US for any reason.

So, yes, Obama supports appeasement of all Middle Eastern countries, appeasement of all the enemies of the US. Obama believes of not only the redistribution of wealth, but the redistribution of power, and the redistribution of rights, as in judicial restoration, from the “oppressor” to the “oppressed”.


16 posted on 05/15/2008 9:05:03 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Eva

NOW...let’s hope MCCAIN backs the PRESIDENT and his comments!!!!


17 posted on 05/15/2008 9:06:32 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: tobyhill

LOL! Man! The DimoPervs are such a bunch of squealing, crybaby, sissies!..And the voluminous response to Bush’s statements are blatent proof of the truth of his words!

Go’head DimoCowards!.. Appease the crocodile!


18 posted on 05/15/2008 9:07:05 AM PDT by DGHoodini ("I never did believe you much, anyway...")
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To: Vaquero

The stiletto went all the way to Dem ego bones. >Bo)


19 posted on 05/15/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by DGHoodini ("I never did believe you much, anyway...")
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To: Gatcko

If the GOP would act as if they have nothing more to lose and just let loose with the truth, most Americans would understand and embrace the truth. Democrats hate America, hate the military and hate everything self reliant.


20 posted on 05/15/2008 9:09:56 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
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Bush must have hit Dumbo's nerve.

21 posted on 05/15/2008 9:09:57 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Eva; tobyhill; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FARS

22 posted on 05/15/2008 9:10:07 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Blue Turtle

I’m not voting for McCain, but if he does not back the president on this, I will actively campaign against McCain. As it is, I try to focus on opposing Obama, and supporting conservative local candidates, and just avoid discussing McCain, but if he comes out and disagrees with Bush, I will not be able to stay quiet.


23 posted on 05/15/2008 9:11:10 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: tobyhill

Thank you President Bush. This is the kind of Truth Attack the Republicans need to make against Obama and the traitor Democrats.

The public needs to know that voting for Democrats is voting for more attacks on America and Israel and many more deaths.


24 posted on 05/15/2008 9:13:40 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
“Jimmah Carter is the Chamberlain of our times......”

Wrong. Chamberlain saw the light when Hitler invaded Poland.
Jimmy Carter is the Quisling of our time.

25 posted on 05/15/2008 9:14:18 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: tobyhill

He doesn’t mention Dem’s but the dems have lost it over Bush’s remarks. “I think the lady doth protest to much”.


26 posted on 05/15/2008 9:14:28 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: tobyhill
>>Bush compared calls to talk with unnamed terrorist groups as a “foolish delusion”...<<<

Say what you want about GWB, he is the man that stands between the Western civilization and all-out Muslim jihad.
President Bush is about the unlamest duck I've ever seen...

27 posted on 05/15/2008 9:15:30 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: tobyhill
RUSH: Home run grand slam Bush!

Barry's campaign and the Puffster are up in arms about this. Rush said if W had spoken out like this about Dems the past 7 years...
28 posted on 05/15/2008 9:16:51 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: ishabibble

I have been pretty mad at Bush on some things but the GOP better learn how to fight and take some lessons from what he just did.


29 posted on 05/15/2008 9:17:02 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
"Lord, if I could only have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided."

U.S. Senator William Borah After the German invasion of Poland, September 1939

30 posted on 05/15/2008 9:18:53 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: jbwbubba

They felt the heat. And rightly so...


31 posted on 05/15/2008 9:18:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tobyhill

I hope McCain doesn’t apologize, he should direct the MSM and the DNC to the White House for comment.


32 posted on 05/15/2008 9:20:03 AM PDT by moose2004
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To: tobyhill
The hysteria by the left over these true statements is real a gut laugh!
33 posted on 05/15/2008 9:20:54 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Jimmy Carter is more like Benedict Arnold.


34 posted on 05/15/2008 9:22:07 AM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: tobyhill
Obama has a guilty conscience. Actually, it's a cheap political trick by Obama to start a fight with Bush.

Note Obama is lying, Defense Sec. Gates recently said we should not meet with Iran's leader.

Further note, why is it ok for Obama to snipe at Bush while Bush is on foreign soil??? Bush did not mention Obama and everything is not about that Dumbo eared leftist punk.

35 posted on 05/15/2008 9:23:39 AM PDT by Williams
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To: jbwbubba
Exactly. The President didn't come close to mentioning Obama by name, yet the Obama campaign was quick to respond, denying their guy ever made such statements. And of course, we all know he did.
36 posted on 05/15/2008 9:23:53 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: wmileo

In either case they assume appeasement before strength....


37 posted on 05/15/2008 9:26:12 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: LZ_Bayonet

Dr. Do-Little: "If I could only have talked with the animals..."

38 posted on 05/15/2008 9:26:26 AM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: tobyhill
"The MSM and the Rats are demanding an apology from McLame for President Bush even though everything President Bush said was factually based."

Which part of Bush's speech offended the Rats?

39 posted on 05/15/2008 9:28:53 AM PDT by avacado
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To: tobyhill

The hubbbub this has caused it so very entertaining.
All the Dems panties in a bunch has made my day.
“The sting in any rebuke is the truth!” - Benjamin Franklin.


40 posted on 05/15/2008 9:30:04 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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John Kerry, who served in Viet Nam with U.S. forces it has been revealed, objected to the President's comments. We shouldn't be afraid to negotiate, said Kerry and other Obama supporters.

Kerry fearlessly conferred with the Viet Minh / Viet Cong and then represented their "American forces are war criminals" complaints when he testified before a committee of the Senate of the United States of America. He is consistent. It worked out great for the Viet Minh / Viet Cong.

41 posted on 05/15/2008 9:31:40 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tobyhill

the MSM is weeping already .... cry ‘foul’ for Obamessiah

“Bush invokes Nazis in apparent hit on Obama”

“Obama blasts Bush over ‘Nazi’ comments”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24647048/


42 posted on 05/15/2008 9:33:05 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: avacado

The use of the word Nazi when speaking of those who wish to appease.


43 posted on 05/15/2008 9:36:26 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
President Bush reiterated the United States' "unbreakable" alliance with the Jewish state and denounced calls to negotiate with "terrorists and radicals."

Not to rain on everyone's Bush praise parade, but isn't this essentially what Bush has Rice doing with the Palestinians while strong-arming Israel to give up more land for "peace"? I wish he would apply his statements in this speech consistently across the board.

44 posted on 05/15/2008 9:41:44 AM PDT by OB1kNOb ("We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election." - Ahmed Yousef, Hamas PM advisor)
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To: tobyhill

“...an American senator declared, ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided,”
_____________________
Ten to one it was a Democrat senator.......


46 posted on 05/15/2008 9:52:43 AM PDT by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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If Obama were for real

He could have responded “I am well aware of the dangers of appeasement. I am well aware of the dangers of a weak leader negotiating from a position of weakness with a tyrant is a recipe for disaster and possibly war, as was th case with Chamberlain in Munich.
History has also shown that a strong leader negotiating from a position of strength can weaken and eventually end a tyranny. We eventually prevailed in the cold war by negotiating from strength.

Instead he sent out his spinmiesters and cued his sock puppets at CNN and MSNBC to go in to mock outrage mode.

_____________

Historical note, I think the proper historical analogy for Barak Obama is not Chamberlain but Vichy France.

47 posted on 05/15/2008 9:53:12 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: OB1kNOb
Israel has said they will go to the ‘67 borders only with the Palestinians and only without Hamas in charge of the new Palestinian land. If Hamas is in charge of any new country they will use that country to destroy Israel and that's why they can't be reasoned with. Gaza is such a narrow strip of land that they really can't launch a full scale attack on Israel.
48 posted on 05/15/2008 9:53:19 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
Dubya exhibiting some cojones.

Touche Mister President!

49 posted on 05/15/2008 10:05:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: moose2004

It’s like that old Shelley Fabares(?)song: “Johnny Get Angry”. “Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad.
Give me the biggest lecture I ever had.
I want a brave man, I want a cave man
Johnny show me that you care, really care for me”

Yeah, show us that you care Johnny McCain. Give them heck! We want a cave man, Johnny! Use a little of the “Straight Talk”, and let the Dems have it! (and not just a lecture!)


50 posted on 05/15/2008 10:09:17 AM PDT by dsutah
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