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McCain Mirage: The senator is not ready-for-prime-time commander-in-chief.
National Review ^ | 2/4/2008 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 05/15/2008 1:49:02 PM PDT by mojito

[snip] ....The sales job is a myth. In reality, a McCain presidency would promise an entirely conventional, center-left, multilateralism.

If you liked the second Bush term, if you liked Clintonian foreign policy, you will find much to admire in a Commander-in-Chief McCain. There would be the same agonizing over European and Islamic perceptions of America; the same doctrinaire commitment to the alchemy of democracy promotion; and the same fondness for heaping more unaccountable bureaucratic sprawl atop the already counter-productive agencies and multinational institutions that frustrate the United States at every turn.

Don’t take my word for it. Read McCain’s own Foreign Affairs essay, published late last year, in which the senator dilates on his philosophy. The leitmotif of “An Enduring Peace Built on Freedom” is that America’s tattered standing in the world must be restored. Typical is this:

"We cannot build an enduring peace based on freedom by ourselves. We must be willing to listen to our democratic allies. Being a great power does not mean that we can do whatever we want whenever we want, nor should we assume that we have all the wisdom, knowledge, and resources necessary to succeed. When we believe international action — whether military, economic, or diplomatic — is necessary, we must work to persuade our friends and allies that we are right. And we must also be willing to be persuaded by them. To be a good leader, America must be a good ally."

(Excerpt) Read more at article.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; andrewmccarthy; cicmccain; johnmccain; mccain; mccainforeignpolicy; multilateralist; rino
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Although this article is a couple months old, I thought it timely.
1 posted on 05/15/2008 1:49:02 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
"...the same doctrinaire commitment to the alchemy of democracy promotion;..."

We never learn! We get starry eyed and into big trouble.

2 posted on 05/15/2008 1:51:57 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

McCain’s age is the only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 1:55:29 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: mojito
And Obambi or the Hildebeast are ready?
4 posted on 05/15/2008 1:55:39 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: mojito

To me the question isn’t whether we should consult with our allies before taking international action, we should if only to be courteous to their opinions and maybe see something we overlooked (being thorough), it is whether a commander in chief has the will to take that action unilaterally if he/she believes we are right even though our “allies” think otherwise.


5 posted on 05/15/2008 2:00:58 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Apercu
And Obambi or the Hildebeast are ready?

They are even ready for subprime time.

6 posted on 05/15/2008 2:01:06 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Apercu

I distinctly remember W HAMMERING Gore on the folly of nation building 8 long years ago. Yet here we are. 9-11 changed alot of things but the folly of nation building wasn’t among them.


7 posted on 05/15/2008 2:02:44 PM PDT by Cyclone Conservative
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To: mojito

Whoa, McCain is past prime time, he is overcooked. So far he is a liberal dream. He wants approval in his old age, he gets it from the MSM and liberals.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 2:04:43 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: mojito
If you liked the second Bush term, if you liked Clintonian foreign policy, you will find much to admire in a Commander-in-Chief McCain.

Okay, MacCainiacs, is Andrew McCarthy also on George Soros's payroll?

9 posted on 05/15/2008 2:05:44 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Ronald Reagan's single biggest mistake: Picking Poppy Bush to be his veep.)
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To: mojito; All

Can Obama reshape U.S. foreign policy? (Tehran Times via The Guardian!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2016176/posts

Operation Chaos: Why Rush Limbaugh Was Right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2011242/posts


10 posted on 05/15/2008 2:06:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: mojito

I am quite convinced that McCain would be a lousy President, but I WILL NEVER vote for the black racist coward, Obama.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 2:11:28 PM PDT by Gator113 (Obama is a member of the Far Wright Conspiracy.......)
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To: Gator113
You are right - Obambi or Hildebeast would be much lousier and cause far greater damage to this nation.I'd rather tread water with McCain for 4 years than sink like the Titanic with either of those two.
12 posted on 05/15/2008 2:20:38 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: mojito

Really the article is irrelevant. The question now is will you or I like a McCain foreign policy more than an Obama foreign policy. Those are the choices.

Or in terms of the article, what matters now is is McCain more ready for prime time comander-in-chief than Obama.


13 posted on 05/15/2008 2:29:20 PM PDT by JLS
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To: mojito

Tom DeLay said that McCain over the years has done more to thwart the conservative movement then any other person.

For this reason and the fact that nothing he says he’ll do in his tenure will he be able to complete.

I refuse to reward him for his 8 years of smacking dowb conservative’s.
He is no conservative.

His immigration policy will require HUGE tax increases, I mean HUGE.

He will not be able to appoint conservative judges because the congress will not approve them. He’ll need to cut a deal and appoint someone Teddy likes.

His energy policy will cost jobs, and a huge increase in prices.

I cannot vote for McCain, the more I hear him speak the more I know that I won’t.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 2:30:24 PM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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To: Apercu

“Obambi or Hildebeast would be much lousier and cause far greater damage to this nation.”

All three of the candidates are equally capable of causing tremendous damage to the country.

The only thing that we have to stop any of them from implementing their leftist plans is republicans in the House.

They may fight back against Hillary or Obama, but they will rubber stamp McCain’s plans to show solidarity.

This is why I’m hoping that McCain loses and praying for airtight gridlock.


15 posted on 05/15/2008 2:31:54 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: gorush
McCain’s age is the only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope.

While many wonder if he will last a gruelling four years as president, the pot would really be aboil if he has a problem (stroke, non-fatal heart attack, etc.) while campaigning -- a draining job in itself. If that happens and he has not selected somone as vice-president, there would be one Helluva scramble on the GOP side.

16 posted on 05/15/2008 2:51:42 PM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Oatka

Keep a good thought...:{)


17 posted on 05/15/2008 2:54:22 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: EEDUDE
Sorry, I respectfully disagree. There is no equivalence between McCain or Obama & Hillary.At least McCain ( a hero in his own right )respects the military and while he is off the reservation in many areas he isn't a closet black supremacist,pathological liar, socialist, or totally corrupt like the other two.
I choose the devil I know.Hoping McCain loses is nothing but Pyhrric victory and allows the left more power than they have ever had - no thanks.
18 posted on 05/15/2008 2:57:49 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Oatka
While many wonder if he will last a gruelling four years as president, the pot would really be aboil if he has a problem (stroke, non-fatal heart attack, etc.) while campaigning -- a draining job in itself. If that happens and he has not selected somone as vice-president, there would be one Helluva scramble on the GOP side.

We can only hope.

19 posted on 05/15/2008 3:03:48 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: mojito

This story has no relevance right now.

The only related question right now that matters is:

Which of the two presidential nominees, SnObama or McLame, is more “ready for prime time”?


20 posted on 05/15/2008 3:14:06 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Apercu
You can't seriously believe you can simply tread water through four years of the RATs best friend. He will accommodate and even take the lead in the policies RATs love so much. There will be no opposition after the catastrophic defeat in congress that is coming. And McCain will be very comfortable with that.
21 posted on 05/15/2008 3:21:12 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: stockpirate
I will vote for McCain because he at least served his country in the military. For all I know obomba may have served for the enemy if he wasn't such a chicken.
I think McCain may appoint a judge that believes the constitution.
You have the right to vote as you want, but either way we will all have a dangerous future.
22 posted on 05/15/2008 3:34:15 PM PDT by Big Horn (I am bitter, I just want to eat my waffle.)
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To: Liz; Calpernia; calcowgirl; indylindy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; pissant; SoConPubbie; AnimalLover; ..
if you liked Clintonian foreign policy, you will find much to admire in a Commander-in-Chief McCain.

CAMPAIGN SLOGAN!!! ;)

23 posted on 05/15/2008 3:49:58 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Sorry Kent, my GOP gag reflex has been worn out today. I am getting the dry heaves. LOL


24 posted on 05/15/2008 3:57:27 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: isrul

I wish you weren’t right, but you are. That is why I am feeling ill.


25 posted on 05/15/2008 3:59:42 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: E. Cartman

Explain how Obama or Clinton offer a better alternative. Those are the choices. Better suck it up and get used to it.

The time for this discussion was 8 months ago and no I did not vote for McCain in my primary.


26 posted on 05/15/2008 4:03:39 PM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: mojito
McCain's Senior Team - questions about John McCain's foreign policy plans
Insight on the News, March 13, 2000 by J. Michael Waller
(snip)

National-security issues, which McCain sees as one of his strongest points, may end up being his Achilles' heel. Already there is concern among his conservative friends that McCain may lack the disposition to command, showing an uncertain sense of purpose and outright bad political judgment.

"What's the first thing you would do as president?" the Detroit News recently asked McCain.

"The first thing I would do," the candidate answered, "is call in John Kerry, Bob Kerrey, Joe Biden, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, Dick Lugar, Chuck Hagel and several others and say we've got to get foreign-policy, national-security issues back on track."

That statement ricocheted through cyberspace, with Washington national-security experts wondering, "Is McCain nuts?" The formula doesn't compute:


27 posted on 05/15/2008 4:08:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
"The first thing I would do," the candidate answered, "is call in John Kerry

Running frantically in the direction of a demonstrable traitor, in order to (in his own words) "get foreign-policy, national-security issues back on track."

Revolting... and absolutely indefensible.

28 posted on 05/15/2008 4:12:50 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: indylindy
He wants approval in his old age, he gets it from the MSM and liberals.

Keep up, would you? McCain only got approval from liberals and the MSM when he disagreed with Bush. Now they hate McCain and will do anything to see Obama in the White House.

29 posted on 05/15/2008 4:13:14 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: gorush

“McCain’s age is the only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope.”

Ditto. I feel dirty for thinking that way but I feel I must always look for the silver lining.


30 posted on 05/15/2008 4:14:13 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: Oatka

“If that happens and he has not selected somone as vice-president, there would be one Helluva scramble on the GOP side.”

They would likely (at the convention) go with the person that had the next highest delegate count.


31 posted on 05/15/2008 4:15:40 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: mojito

What and Shrillary or Obama are?


32 posted on 05/15/2008 4:17:15 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Apercu

“I’d rather tread water with McCain for 4 years than sink like the Titanic with either of those two.”

Won’t treading water be difficult with all those knife wounds in your back?


33 posted on 05/15/2008 4:17:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: Apercu

34 posted on 05/15/2008 4:20:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: RedRover

Ask me if I care? I could care less about old spineless sellout liberal republicans. If he wins by happenstance, so be it, if he doesn’t, nothing will be any different than under any other Democrat. Doesn’t matter what fox is guarding the henhouse. A fox is a fox.


35 posted on 05/15/2008 4:21:08 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: RedRover

“McCain only got approval from liberals and the MSM when he disagreed with Bush. Now they hate McCain and will do anything to see Obama in the White House.”

Yes. I...feel...so..bad...for...him.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 4:21:14 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: AFPhys
Which of the two presidential nominees, SnObama or McLame, is more “ready for prime time”?

Yes,and adults will deal with the issue non-hysterically. Those are the choices, as unfortunate as they are. It's like choosing between Nixon and Humphrey or Nixon and McGovern.

37 posted on 05/15/2008 4:26:20 PM PDT by ishmac
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To: gorush
McCain’s age is the only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope.

I also hope, but ONLY if the right person is selected for Veep.

38 posted on 05/15/2008 4:29:42 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("We are slayed. The party is dead--dead--dead!" - Whig Rep. Lewis Campbell (and so will go the GOP))
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To: weegee
Explain how Obama or Clinton offer a better alternative. Those are the choices. Better suck it up and get used to it.

No. What we need is a CONSERVATIVE in power, not some grizzled old fart who, in the end, stands only for John McanCia. If MacNuts were serious about protecting the US, he wouldn't demand closing down GITMO, he wouldn't oppose "torture" of prisoners, he'd support reducing our dependency on foreign oil by not actively opposing drilling in ANWR, he wouldn't leave our southern border wide open and he wouldn't have supported establishing an Islamo-fascist regime in Kosovo.

BEST to vote for a real conservative and tell the CINO MacNaic to go f__k himself and the elephant he rode in on.

39 posted on 05/15/2008 4:31:41 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Ronald Reagan's single biggest mistake: Picking Poppy Bush to be his veep.)
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To: calcowgirl

I hope these panty waist turds get what makes them so afraid, they are so weak and pathetic. They have sealed their own fate, and are too dense to realize it.

They need a purge.


40 posted on 05/15/2008 4:31:50 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Apercu
("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)

You think we're screwed with MacCain then?

41 posted on 05/15/2008 4:34:26 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Screw MacCain, and the elephant he rode in on.)
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To: indylindy

So you see no difference between finishing the job in Iraq and an immediate pull-out? How are they the same?


42 posted on 05/15/2008 4:34:30 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: indylindy
They have sealed their own fate, and are too dense to realize it.

LOL. Yep!

It's so much easier to blame it on YOU! ("YOU" meaning those evil conservatives)

43 posted on 05/15/2008 4:35:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: COBOL2Java
"I also hope, but ONLY if the right person is selected for Veep."

a. The sooner the better, pre-nomination, if a guy can dream...

b. V.P. candidates that I consider worse than McCain is a relatively short list

44 posted on 05/15/2008 4:35:55 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Grunthor

I don’t feel bad for him either. But to say that McCain has the approval of liberals and the MSM is idiotic.


45 posted on 05/15/2008 4:36:32 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: COBOL2Java
McCain’s age is the only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope.

Geesh, I have never been so inspired. Hoping for the whackjob I voted for to croak. LOL

Do you think McCain is smart enough to pick a repugnant VP in order to prolong his miserable existence?

Must be why Ms Obama is against Hillary.

Who knows what the future brings?

46 posted on 05/15/2008 4:37:29 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy
Geesh, I have never been so inspired. Hoping for the whackjob I voted for to croak. LOL

Such are the cards we are dealt this year...sigh.

47 posted on 05/15/2008 4:39:58 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("We are slayed. The party is dead--dead--dead!" - Whig Rep. Lewis Campbell (and so will go the GOP))
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To: COBOL2Java

Yep. Can’t say I disagree with the sentiment.


48 posted on 05/15/2008 4:44:11 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: RedRover

If McCain wins, the traitorous Democrats will defund the war, just like they did under Nixon. Do you really think they are going to allow MCCain to proceed like they did Bush, especialy with no big election on the horizon? They would like nothing better than to put a loss on the GOP. If McCain wins, they will move fast out of spite. If they have a 60 vote margin, its all over.

Wake up!


49 posted on 05/15/2008 4:48:48 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Gator113
We can vote for McCain knowing that he will be a placeholder for four years until someone rises up with fire in the belly to take to task the cancer of Marxism that is taking root in this nation.

Let us not underestimate the threat that has been given ground in the DemonRAT party. It will use the public trough to seduce the populous in a demonic game of bait and switch.

McCain, seems oblivious to the danger or sees the concern as some extreme right wing cry of wolf. This is symptomatic of one who has been too long conditioned and isolated by the socialist culture of Washington DC. We know better. We see the big picture. Let Obama be a warning shot for how close this nation is to Marxist system.

While we move McCain to the Presidency, we buy time needed to plant fertile ground for a leader to rise up and take this country back.

50 posted on 05/15/2008 4:51:43 PM PDT by jonrick46
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