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A-10 pilots keeping it safe in Afghanistan
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 16, 2008 | Scott Schonauer

Posted on 05/15/2008 6:59:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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BAGRAM, Afghanistan — A 200-pound bomb dropped from a U.S. warplane can end a firefight in a heartbeat. That same bomb, however, slightly off target, can be tragic for troops on the ground.

The margin of error, the difference between helping allies and making a horrific mistake, is microscopically thin for pilots thousands of feet in the air. Bad judgment, poor communication or both can alter fate in seconds.

Pilots with the Spangdahlem, Germany-based 81st Fighter Squadron know the risks all too well.

When the squadron last deployed to Afghanistan in 2006, a pilot mistook a trash fire and strafed a group of coalition troops battling Taliban forces. The strike killed a Canadian soldier and injured dozens, putting greater scrutiny on how American pilots try to avoid fratricide.

In February, when the 81st returned to Afghanistan, they arrived better prepared to avoid a similar tragedy, said the unit’s commander Lt. Col. Timothy Hogan. But as the unit’s four-month deployment ends this month, the friendly-fire incident has loomed as a stark reminder of how easily things can go wrong.

"Until your replacements are here and until your job is done, my guys are staying keenly focused on the mission," Hogan said, "because it’s life or death."

While the squadron left Germany with improved equipment and training, there continue to be challenges in delivering close-air support, or CAS.

There are not enough Air Force controllers on the ground to meet the need, and some allied countries don’t have any. While some controllers are carrying the newest and latest equipment, many NATO countries do not.

Finding friend or foe

The Sept. 4, 2006, friendly-fire incident happened just days before the squadron was to return to Germany. When the investigation came out, Hogan sat the pilots down, reviewed the tapes, talked about the situation and about how to avoid a similar mistake in the future.

Providing close-air support for soldiers is the squadron’s main mission here, and it is the specialty of the jet they fly — the A-10 Thunderbolt II. Before arriving at Bagram, pilots trained for a month in Nevada and for a month in Florida.

Maj. Brett "Mirv" Herman has 16 years in the Air Force, but this is his first time in Afghanistan. He arrived expecting to drop bombs and fire the A-10’s gun with the frequency of a video game. That hasn’t been the case. Pilots fired only half as many 20 mm rounds as during the last deployment. But things have gradually intensified with the rise in temperatures.

Herman’s missions have included guarding coalition convoys and performing screaming flyovers as a "show of force" to scare off Taliban fighters. His most memorable mission occurred when a group of soldiers a few miles outside their base came under attack. Herman provided cover as they sprinted back safely to the base carrying full packs.

"Being here and protecting the ground guys, I wouldn’t trade it for anything," Herman said. "I like it. Having them feel more secure with me overhead is a good feeling."

While he has only shot his guns once, he discovered how difficult it is to distinguish between friend and foe. "The bad guys, what they do a lot is shoot and scoot," Herman said.

"They’ll take one or two shots, and then they’ll run. Run back into a village and hide among the locals, or they’ll find a hiding place nearby … and you can’t find them. And we’re not going to indiscriminately drop bombs."

High-tech help

Technology has helped fill in some gaps.

Since their last deployment, the 81st received upgraded radios that are faster and have better sound quality. Their old radios could cut off transmissions sent in "decryption" mode if the sender did not wait several seconds before speaking. For example, a controller could yell, "Hold your fire!" but it might come out "Fire!"

Controllers on the ground also are using a software program that receives streaming video from a camera mounted on the jet. The system — called ROVER, or Remotely Operated Video Enhanced Receiver — gives controllers an aerial view and allows them to guide pilots to the target by looking at the imagery.

The controllers used the technology the last time the 81st deployed to Afghanistan, but Hogan said many JTACs didn’t carry the computers in the field because they were too cumbersome. Smaller computers have made it easier to carry and use.

"It’s a huge benefit. It builds my [situational awareness]," Herman said. "So I can say, ‘OK. I know who’s good. I know who’s bad. Now, let’s go and take care of the bad guys.’ "

It is difficult to say whether the newer radios and the use of the ROVER have improved the accuracy and effectiveness of close-air support. But Hogan said both have created a "warm fuzzy" reassurance, adding that the mission is "not so much a science as it is an art."

Laptops and video feeds are helpful, but controllers can’t always rely on them to do their job.

"We like to learn how to use them and be able to use them in the way they were created to be used," Senior Airman Dan Collins said. "But, in the worst-case scenario, you don’t want to be the guy who can’t do his job because his battery died."

Tough but rewarding

Even if a controller does everything seemingly right, it’s also up to the pilot to make sure he or she delivers the bomb on target. That reliance has created a bond between both JTACs and pilots unlike anything else in the Air Force.

When controllers finish their deployments and return to Bagram to catch their flight back home, many of them make a point to visit the pilots at the squadron. Some visit the pilots to just shake hands and show their appreciation.

"And I look at them and I say, ‘Dude, I could never do what you do,’ " Herman said. "And they say, ‘Well, we’re glad you’re there.’ It’s a mutual respect for both of us." Video: 81st Fighter Squadron


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a10; afghanistan; cas; friendlyfire; lastchoiceforcas; oef; usaf; warthog
Attack pilots’ greatest need is more controllers on ground

BAGRAM, Afghanistan — If there is one thing he would like to have more of the next time he deploys, Air Force Maj. Brett "Mirv" Herman said the answer would be simple: more JTACs. More airmen on the ground can be the difference.

Joint Terminal Attack Controllers, better known as JTACs, are the link between ground forces and the Air Force pilots above. When shots are exchanged or things get a little hairy, JTACs get on the radio and call upon help from the skies. The A-10 pilots come to the rescue like a 911 force from above.

But the Air Force does not have enough JTACs to go around. Making matters even more complex is the fact that some coalition forces do not use the same tools and tactics. Romanian forces, for example, must depend on U.S. Air Force controllers to provide close-air support in Afghanistan because their military does not have any.

The U.S. Air Force has had a difficult time meeting the need for its own controllers.

"We’ve got a lot of stuff going on in the world, so they’re very high in demand," Herman said. "They’re stressed."

JTACs live and work daily with the Army units they support. When the Army unit they’re attached with deploys, these airmen go with them. But the need is so high that the Air Force has had to draw from other units. The familiarity of living and working with a unit is not the same for those deploying with different units.

"We basically have to pull bodies from a lot of different places just to meet the manning needs," said Senior Airman Dan Collins, a JTAC who supports the 101st Airborne Division in Afghanistan. "We don’t have as many guys in the career field as we would like to have. We are in demand."

The job can be stressful, and some controllers have trouble handling the stresses of combat. One mistake might not only kill friendly forces; it could take their own.

"When you sit down and you think about what you’re actually responsible for, sometimes it can be kind of overwhelming," said Collins, who is unsure whether he wants to make the Air Force a career. "Whenever I think about it and it gets stressful or it’s a lot to take in, I pretty much tell myself to ‘sack up’ and do it anyway."

— Scott Schonauer

1 posted on 05/15/2008 6:59:33 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
A-10 in action:
2 posted on 05/15/2008 7:08:08 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I've always been awed at the firepower of the Hog and the skill of those who operate it. This story adds another page to the story. (And to think the Air Force was SO gung-ho to scrap the Hog...Oh, wait, never mind....)
3 posted on 05/15/2008 7:08:20 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

One of the most useful, toughest, combat aircraft ever made. Absolutely ideal for the type of operations we have been and are currently engaged in.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 7:11:20 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Gotta love the warthog!


5 posted on 05/15/2008 7:14:18 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: farlander

Yep. Totally agree. Amazing that an aircraft designed decades ago (60s, 70s? too lazy to look it up right now) to kill Soviet tanks in Europe is now doing the equivalent of sniping prairie dogs. I’ve read many stories how, when the enemy hears that big gun growl, they carp their pants.


6 posted on 05/15/2008 7:18:30 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: 50mm
A-10 launching a Maverick:


7 posted on 05/15/2008 7:18:32 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I served with the Flying Tigers during the first Gulf War as a civil engineer airman and then with the 52d FW during the Kosovo campaign at Spandahlem AB from ‘99 to ‘02 as a communications airman. All I can say is the Hog was an aircraft that earned my respect and the pilots who flew them earned my respect as well. I’ll never forget my time with those awesome birds. Best CAS aircraft ever if you ask me.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 7:18:43 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Jet Jaguar

A flying tank on steroids.


9 posted on 05/15/2008 7:33:06 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

How long ago were they talking about retiring the flying pig? The war record of this bird has been dazzling since Gulf I.


10 posted on 05/15/2008 7:50:01 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

How long ago were they talking about retiring the flying pig? The war record of this bird has been dazzling since Gulf I.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 7:51:00 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

How long ago were they talking about retiring the flying pig? The war record of this bird has been dazzling since Gulf I.


12 posted on 05/15/2008 7:52:54 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: jimfree

I did not push that button three times.


13 posted on 05/15/2008 7:53:35 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: jimfree
I'd have to do a little digging, or you can, but all you need to do is look at when the AF moved all the Hogs out of the front line to the Reserves and ANG units. IIRC, that all started in the late 80s. (I'm probably wrong, so don't flame me.)
14 posted on 05/15/2008 7:54:52 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Never bring a tank to a Warthog fight.


15 posted on 05/15/2008 7:54:57 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Jet Jaguar; All
CLOSE air support

(strong language)

16 posted on 05/15/2008 7:56:25 PM PDT by dighton
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To: 50mm

Y’know, I have always liked these planes. I like them even more now with the newer mods they’ve been outfitted with.


17 posted on 05/15/2008 8:01:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 50mm

It is incredible to see a pair of these running tight patterns.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 8:09:36 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: 50cal Smokepole; jimfree
From Wikipedia and my memory of A-10 history:

A-10s were initially an unwelcome addition to the arsenal in the eyes of Air Force brass. The Air Force prized the high-flying, high-performance F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon air-superiority jets, and were determined to leave the dirty work of close air support to Army helicopters (the development of the AGM-114 Hellfire anti-armor missile and AH-64 Apache attack helicopter having since provided the Army with a viable anti-tank aircraft). Attempts to transfer the A-10 to the Army and the Marines were at first prevented by the 1948 Key West Agreement, and then by the A-10's impressive combat record during the Gulf War in 1991. Shortly after the war, the Air Force gave up on the idea of replacing the A-10 with a close air support version of the F-16.[9]

19 posted on 05/15/2008 8:12:04 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: spanalot
They are deceptively quiet, even when making low altitude runs.


20 posted on 05/15/2008 8:31:19 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Y’know, I have always liked these planes. I like them even more now with the newer mods they’ve been outfitted with.

They were talking about engine upgrades to get to 1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio. Wonder where that went?

21 posted on 05/15/2008 8:35:48 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: 50mm
Shortly after the war, the Air Force gave up on the idea of replacing the A-10 with a close air support version of the F-16.

The F-16, CAS version, could never be as robust as the Hog. All it'd take is a ‘golden BB’ to splash a -16 — it takes a brick smokehouse in the flightpath of a hog to do some serious damage.

22 posted on 05/15/2008 8:40:15 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: jimfree
I did not push that button three times.

LOL

23 posted on 05/15/2008 8:43:35 PM PDT by bobbyd (Flyer, I love and miss you...Lords best my FRiend)
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To: bobbyd

The Hawg was a GREAT airplane to fly. I couldn’t wear my oxygen mask because I was smiling all the time!


24 posted on 05/15/2008 8:57:31 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Jet Jaguar

bkmark


25 posted on 05/15/2008 9:05:09 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: 50cal Smokepole
it takes a brick smokehouse in the flightpath of a hog to do some serious damage.

Or, as was proven in Desert Storm, AAA or MANPADS.

26 posted on 05/15/2008 9:10:19 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Jet Jaguar
Pilots fired only half as many 20 mm rounds as during the last deployment. But things have gradually intensified with the rise in temperatures.

I'm surprised A-10 pilots have any 20mm rounds, let alone half the amount as last deployment.

27 posted on 05/15/2008 9:11:56 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

If you hear that gun roar, and he’s aiming at you, you’re already dead.


28 posted on 05/15/2008 9:13:34 PM PDT by aught-6
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Yes, there were losses to ground-to-air fire. But many Hogs made it home whistling from holes.
29 posted on 05/15/2008 9:16:22 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: Jet Jaguar

A-10s are cool airplanes.


30 posted on 05/15/2008 9:24:11 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I’m glad to see somebody else caught that.


31 posted on 05/15/2008 9:28:22 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: 50mm
“Pilots fired only half as many 20 mm rounds “

Uhmmm, does it even have a 20mm? I thought it only had a 30mm?

32 posted on 05/15/2008 9:35:13 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is NOT a presidential only. 3 to 5 Supremes will retire! Vote accordingly)
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To: 50mm
Here are a couple of A-10's that were doing touch-and-goes at Wright-Patterson when I was visiting the Air Force Museum last year.


33 posted on 05/15/2008 9:36:00 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: JSteff
Uhmmm, does it even have a 20mm? I thought it only had a 30mm?

Think you meant to post this as a reply to the article, not me.

34 posted on 05/15/2008 9:40:10 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
A-10 armed:


35 posted on 05/15/2008 9:48:25 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: 50mm

Now that is a beautiful picture.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 9:50:10 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: JSteff; 50mm

Forgot to add: good catch, the rounds are 30mm.


37 posted on 05/15/2008 9:50:12 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: jimfree
How long ago were they talking about retiring the flying pig? The war record of this bird has been dazzling since Gulf I.
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It occurred right after a magnificent combat tour in Gulf War I. Upon return to the US the AF slated that all the A-10s would be sent to the bone yard. Congress and DoD intervened. Only half were sent. The other half went to the Guard. Godspeed

38 posted on 05/15/2008 9:51:18 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Got it from the Davis-Monthan website. I visit Davis-Monthan on occasion on business.


39 posted on 05/15/2008 9:52:25 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: 50mm

40 posted on 05/15/2008 10:00:01 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Or, as was proven in Desert Storm, AAA or MANPADS.
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The A-10 was hit 11 times by AAA. No losses. It got back home easily and was back in the fray in no time. Despite combat damage it had the highest in-commission rate of all aircraft at a remarkable 95.5%.

The A-10 took 6 IR Missile strikes in Gulf war I. 3 losses, 3 returned safely. 2 were repaired and back in the fray, 1 was not economical to repair.

Godspeed

41 posted on 05/15/2008 10:04:49 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: 50mm
Long, long ago, while in the Army, I heard some folks disparaging the A-10. "That's gotta be the ugliest thing that flies. And useless in a dogfight. I'd never want to fly that thing." "I dunno," I said, "the A-10 looks like it was built more for fight than flight, to me. If my eyesight were anything like 20/20, I'd love to fly one of those things. For the scare that thing puts into tanks, trucks, and troops, I say the uglier the better."
42 posted on 05/15/2008 10:39:30 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

The A-10 is really one of the newer designs in the USAF’s arsenal. It is newer than the F-15 and F-16. Most of the A-10s in service were built in the late 70s and early 80s.

OTOH, it is still disturbing that so many USAF aircraft are more than 20 years old. (With some more than 50 years old)


43 posted on 05/15/2008 10:59:05 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Jet Jaguar
IMHO, the USAF and the military is one bunch of flaming idiots to get rid of this aircraft. Once our forces have air superiority in a 'conflict', boots still have to be on the ground to take control if that is part of the mission.

Ask any leg whose been in combat and had the Hog come in to 'smoke some camels' to save his and his buddies butts what they think about the A-10.

I was fortunate one Saturday afternoon back in the '87 to watch 2 pair of these birds play tag, perform fake strafe runs on civy targets out in rural eastern NC. The show lasted a good 15 minutes. They were also below 500 ft at times.... a no-no, but they were pulling some hellacious maneuvers with those aircraft.

Couldn't hear the f'krs neither until they were on top of me......I too was grinning from ear to ear. Those dudes were having some serious fun.

My hat's off and my right hand over my heart to the pilots that fly the Hog....

44 posted on 05/16/2008 2:27:18 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: BradyLS

For those naysayers who tell you the ‘Hog is useless in a dogfight, just talk to any rocket-jockey who has suffered the “Warthog Stomp” at Red Flag.

(You could try to ask the Iraqi chopper pilots who witnessed it first hand, but only if you have a really good medium!)


45 posted on 05/16/2008 6:21:02 AM PDT by yureikumaTN ("Never give in--never, never, never, never.." Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 50mm

Pretty cool - the WA tailflash says that this is one of my old jets. 57th Fighter Weapons Wing, Nellis AFB, Nevada.


46 posted on 05/16/2008 8:15:44 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: BradyLS

Saw A-10s take down F-15s in DAC training out at Nellis. Warthog gets the Eagle down low and slow, and the Eagle couldn’t stay with him in the turns. A-10 would manage to get in close and behind with a Sidewinder and kill the Eagle.


47 posted on 05/16/2008 8:16:57 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Tennessee_Bob

You make the second “hawg” pilot on this thread. It seems Aviator (upthread) flew it too. Wonder how many other military pilots are FReepers?

I am not a military pilot, but have done contract work on the A-10 at Davis-Monthan.


48 posted on 05/16/2008 9:10:32 AM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.)
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To: 50mm

Oh, no! Not a Hog pilot - I was too smart to be a pilot. I was a jet engine mechanic instead. :)


49 posted on 05/16/2008 9:24:30 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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