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Study: Will rising ocean submerge part of South Florida?
South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | 5-15-08 | Andy Reid

Posted on 05/15/2008 7:21:33 PM PDT by kingattax

Sebring - Polar bears and their melting habitat sent a wake-up call to South Florida water managers Wednesday.

The same day the federal government added the polar bear to the endangered species list because of global warming, South Florida water managers agreed to take a yearlong look at how melting ice could raise sea levels that could claim the southern part of the state.

The South Florida Water Management District's long-term plans once anticipated the sea level rising about 1 foot by 2100, but more recent projections say the rise could be five times as much.

That could move the southern tip of Florida's mainland to the Tamiami Trail and submerge swaths of some of the most populated areas along the southeast coast.

From flooding to more saltwater seeping in and fouling drinking water supplies, climate change is an issue that needs more attention, said Jayantha Obeysekera, who will lead the district's global warming review.

"We cannot put up walls and stop the sea level," Obeysekera said. "Let's start looking at it [and] see what our vulnerabilities are."

On Wednesday, district officials called for spending $100,000 over the next year to study the threat of climate change.

The district, which has a $1.3 billion budget, might need to do more, governing board member Charles Dauray said.

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On Wednesday, district officials called for spending $100,000 over the next year to study the threat of climate change.

they can send me half that much and i'll give these dopes one hell of a report. i'll even throw in a few bags of ice.

1 posted on 05/15/2008 7:21:33 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
Will rising ocean submerge part of South Florida?

Nope. Next question.
2 posted on 05/15/2008 7:23:11 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 05/15/2008 7:23:24 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: kingattax
Study: Will rising ocean submerge part of South Florida?

We can always hope.

4 posted on 05/15/2008 7:24:11 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the jihadis are the shock troops of communism.)
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To: kingattax

I think Andy Reid should focus on the Eagles a little bit more than his HOBBY!


5 posted on 05/15/2008 7:24:25 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (From Kuwait where the Weather is always Partly Sandy!)
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To: kingattax

Two years ago I did my part, by getting out of the way; I moved from central Florida to central Kentucky. Now I’m a thousand feet above sea level, and if a tsunami strikes from the Atlantic, I have the Appalachian Mts. as a shield. Another ice age, however, could be a different matter.


6 posted on 05/15/2008 7:25:45 PM PDT by Berosus (Supports the troops, bring them home -- from the Balkans.)
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To: kingattax

Floating Chads?


7 posted on 05/15/2008 7:26:13 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: kingattax

Will Glowbull warming cause the extinction of polar bears in South Florida? I think so. Probably already has.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 7:26:15 PM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Aren’t there an awful lot of democrat party shysters in South Florida?


9 posted on 05/15/2008 7:27:13 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: kingattax

One can only hope.......


10 posted on 05/15/2008 7:27:53 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Ken522

Florida is the inflamed appendix of the US.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 7:28:29 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the jihadis are the shock troops of communism.)
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To: kingattax

Considering that sea level has risen at least 500 feet since the end of th elast ice age (Long Island Sound was a valley), it seems that it could rise a few more feet and still be “natural”.

For another $100,000 I’ll write them a report on the problems a falling sea level will cause (shipping channels unusable, cities and ports far from the water, beaches unusable for hundreds of years until new shore is developed by waves- that’s a teaser, $100,000 for the full report).


12 posted on 05/15/2008 7:28:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: kingattax
Should we have not seen some evidence of rising ocean levels by now?? SOME evidence? IF NOT, WHY NOT???

Next stupid question ...

13 posted on 05/15/2008 7:28:59 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: Berosus

I believe the glaciers in the last Ice Age got down to where the Ohio Rive now is. So KY should be okay.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 7:29:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: kingattax

If this is true, it makes me wonder why we spent billions of taxpayer dollars rebuilding Nawleans. Dumb move. But so is putting the polar bear on the “endangered species list.”


15 posted on 05/15/2008 7:30:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: kingattax

Everything up to the middle of Georgia used to be underwater. I suppose it could be again.


16 posted on 05/15/2008 7:31:12 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: kingattax
Dear Sir,

I object to that last article about South Florida submerging into the ocean. I myself have lived in South Florida for over twenty years and never have I ever grggle grggle grrgle..

(with major apologies to Monty Python falling out of a tall tower sketch)

17 posted on 05/15/2008 7:31:46 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: DBrow

I saw a History Channel documentary about the Roman invasion of Britain. They were so worried they built barricades above the shore to protect their landing sights. The historian showed the ditches and foundations of the barricades but stated they were now about two miles in shore. It seems the ocean had receded from when the Romans were there.

How that got beyond the Ministry of Truth is beyond me. The Censors must be slipping.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 7:32:21 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Berosus
Two years ago I did my part, by getting out of the way; I moved from central Florida to central Kentucky. Now I’m a thousand feet above sea level, and if a tsunami strikes from the Atlantic, I have the Appalachian Mts. as a shield. Another ice age, however, could be a different matter.

You don't get it! Human beings are the cause of global warming so you're creating a problem wherever you go! You should fee guilty enough to pay large sums of carbon credits to offset you're guilt. If you don't feel guilty then you should pay double! ;O)
19 posted on 05/15/2008 7:34:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: C210N
Sebring - Polar bears and their melting habitat sent a wake-up call to South Florida water managers Wednesday.

Darn southern Floridan polar bears, they've been hell ever since they got cell phones.

20 posted on 05/15/2008 7:35:13 PM PDT by xJones
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To: kingattax
Government education has done its job and has been completely successful - perhaps the only socialist enterprise that has.

Our fellow citizens are ignoramuses and will continue to clamor for more restrictions on their own freedom long after news stories about this hoax (hopefully) cease to be published.

I feel sorry for my children and grandchildren.

21 posted on 05/15/2008 7:35:20 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: BerniesFriend

Outstanding news! I will offer a thousand dollars for any house or condo currently on the ocean or intercoastal in South Florida. It is going to be under water anyway, right? Right?


22 posted on 05/15/2008 7:35:25 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Ken522
Aren’t there an awful lot of democrat party shysters in South Florida?

a major infestation

23 posted on 05/15/2008 7:36:32 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax
said Jayantha Obeysekera, who will lead the district's global warming review.

Now there's a good solid American name!

24 posted on 05/15/2008 7:37:13 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: kingattax

Why mess around? They should build a 100 foot seawall right now.


25 posted on 05/15/2008 7:40:02 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: kingattax
Here's a really simple physics experiment to demonstrate the stupidity of this argument.

Fill a plastic or metal drinking glass to the rim with water. Put it in the freezer. When it is frozen solid, remove and note that the ice is either above the top of the rim of the container, or some of the water spilled out of the container and froze on the floor of the freezer.

This is because water expands as it turns in to ice. Conversely, melting ice resulting in a smaller volume of water than the volume of the ice.

Now apply this to icebergs. The submerged portion of icebergs take up more space when they are frozen than the water which would result from their melting. Given that over 90% of an iceberg is below water level, is they all melted completely it would have a negligible effect on sea levels.

Props to Mr. Sitton, my physics teacher at Nimitz High School, 1977.

26 posted on 05/15/2008 7:44:16 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: kingattax

What’s the worry? John McGore will save us with his free market cap and trade program.


27 posted on 05/15/2008 7:44:47 PM PDT by A message
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To: IrishCatholic

Good catch!


28 posted on 05/15/2008 7:45:37 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Berosus

“I moved from central Florida to central Kentucky. Now I’m a thousand feet above sea level, and if a tsunami strikes from the Atlantic, I have the Appalachian Mts. as a shield. Another ice age, however, could be a different matter.”

You should be ok. In the last Ice Age the glaciers stopped at the Ohio River.


29 posted on 05/15/2008 7:47:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: TexasNative2000

Uhm. I don’t believe that CO2 is driving climate. It’s the sun, solar variation and orbital mechanics.

NO ONE is suggesting that melting ice that is already in the water will raise the ocean levels. The scare mongers are suggesting that gigantic glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will get greased up and flow into the oceans. Of course, this discounts that they typically are in bowls and only the ends of the glaciers can calve...but that’s not enough to stop an alarmist. The whole glacier might just get mobile and raise the water 200 meters in a day!!!


30 posted on 05/15/2008 7:49:56 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: jimfree

“We cannot put up walls and stop the sea level,” Obeysekera said.”

It’s not like she’s Dutch or something.


31 posted on 05/15/2008 7:56:40 PM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: the invisib1e hand
. . We can always hope. . !!!!!

Come on now, we left our chads hanging so folks like you would not have to see Algore waddle to the podium to the strains of Hail to the Chief!
A little more respect please!

32 posted on 05/15/2008 7:59:28 PM PDT by ExSafecracker (Press 1 for english. . .2 for jibberish.)
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To: Amelia
Everything up to the middle of Georgia used to be underwater. I suppose it could be again.

Most of Texas was under water also, and before anyone starts cheering, that was a few hundred million years ago.:)

33 posted on 05/15/2008 8:01:58 PM PDT by xJones
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To: ExSafecracker
A little more respect please!

Having wasted half my life there, I can write you a litany of evils that have emanated from between the sun and the sand in that place that have nothing to do with the bumbling folly of the 2000 election. But I won't. I'll simply say that Pinellas County is Satan's winter home, and leave it at that.

34 posted on 05/15/2008 8:02:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the jihadis are the shock troops of communism.)
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To: ExSafecracker

With a Cabin Cruiser and a 19 footer in my yard here in Tampa, I’m not even thinking about this. I’m more concerned with Islamic/Illegals terrorism in my back yard. I have Gazans living in my hispanic/black/anglo neighborhood and it’s not a comfortable feeling. Let’s keep worrying about climate change (Urh change? Ummh, Barry?) and massive socialism expansion and sing Kumbaya!


35 posted on 05/15/2008 8:05:15 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: kingattax

Florida is a sandbar. It will always change. In its center you can find fossilized sea creatures and even the occasional mastadon fossils buried in the limestone/phosphate. Change has been happening there for a long long time.

Is it caused by man made global warming ? No

Is it caused by the natural and always happening and unstoppable forces of nature ? Yes.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 8:05:37 PM PDT by festus (Tagline removed.)
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To: ExSafecracker
see Algore waddle to the podium to the strains of Hail to the Chief!

In Al's case, that would be more like Hail to the Chef!

And Floridans didn't allow the Dems to steal the election in 2000, while the Dems tried so hard to punch the chads in the three contested counties.

37 posted on 05/15/2008 8:06:07 PM PDT by xJones
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To: kingattax
Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

38 posted on 05/15/2008 8:10:57 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: arderkrag

You are wrong. Every 12 hours or so rising oceans cover part of sout Florida or for that matter every place in the world where there is a beach.


39 posted on 05/15/2008 8:12:42 PM PDT by JLS
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To: willyd
“We cannot put up walls and stop the sea level,” Obeysekera said.”

It’s not like she’s Dutch or something.

Isn't that beautiful - we are not going to put up walls but rather command the sea to recede. If that doesn't display the vanity what does?

40 posted on 05/15/2008 8:17:24 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: kingattax
"We cannot put up walls and stop the sea level," Obeysekera said.

Actually, you can. That's what they did in New Orleans, and it worked just fine for 300 years. You just have to remember to maintain the walls.

(Suggestion: don't subcontract the work to the Army Corps if timely maintenance is a priority)

41 posted on 05/15/2008 8:17:26 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: arderkrag

Amen. Thank you.


42 posted on 05/15/2008 8:19:44 PM PDT by coffeeestain
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To: Rebelbase

OMG!

Am I gonna be covered in ice, here in WNY?

Where do I run? What kind of shelter do I need to build? Help me, someone?

I have “ISK” to barter, even though I am just a rookie...


43 posted on 05/15/2008 8:20:30 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'll simply say that Pinellas County is Satan's winter home, and leave it at that.

But where does satan go in the summer? Nevermind, at least this answers the age old question of if hell really freezes over. It must because satan takes a winter vacation in Florida.:)

44 posted on 05/15/2008 8:23:42 PM PDT by xJones
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To: USMA '71
Now there's a good solid American name!

What would constitute an "American name," exactly? Pocahontas? Tecumseh? Crazy Horse?

I've heard of English names, German names, Irish names, Italian names, but I've never heard of an "American" name.

45 posted on 05/15/2008 8:24:01 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: kingattax
Scientific American did a spread on this subject over 20 years ago - with pictures of Florida taking on water in 2005 or 2010 - something like that.

It's nutty - another "club of Rome", Population bomb etc etc.

Liberal love to scare the ignorant.

46 posted on 05/15/2008 8:26:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (The "thug-way" - Hill won't stop 'til she wins or Obama accepts her as VP .)
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To: Alter Kaker

Amerigo Vespucci

; )


47 posted on 05/15/2008 8:29:32 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: jacquej
Where do I run? What kind of shelter do I need to build? Help me, someone?

It is so simple and I can easily explain it all to you. And I'm certain that you will be so pleased with the answer that you won't mind paying my $5000 fee.

48 posted on 05/15/2008 8:30:51 PM PDT by xJones
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

LOL!


49 posted on 05/15/2008 8:30:54 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: festus; All

Anyone remember when the Army Corps of Engineers were asked to do a study of how to stop Niagara Falls from receeding/changing?

It would ruin “tourism”, you know!

Maybe we could divert AlGore’s attention to something really critical, like stopping Niagara Falls. If anyone can figure it out, he could.

After all, he invented the internet, so he will “save the day” for the sorry plight of the town of Niagara Falls, which would be “Niagara Rapids”, if “man-made” erosion has it’s way.

He can point to the highways, helicopters, power plants, and tourist “Maid-of-the-Mist” boats as the cause of all this eroding going on.

Which Freeper is going to point his little wooden head in this direction?

After all, Niagara Falls is one of the seven wonders of the world! Surely Al can figure out some way to get another Nobel prize for stopping it in it’s recessive tracks!

/sarc

(in case I am up too late, and not making any sense to the rest of you)


50 posted on 05/15/2008 8:33:06 PM PDT by jacquej
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