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Fred Thompson: The Place to Discuss Our Fundamental Principles (Fred joined Townhall.com)
Townhall ^ | May 15, 2008 | Fred Thompson

Posted on 05/16/2008 12:56:44 AM PDT by CreativePerspective

Spending some time on the campaign trail has confirmed a couple of thoughts I've had before I entered the Republican primary race.

First, conservatism is alive and well in America; don't let anyone tell you differently. And by conservatism, I don't mean the warmed-over "raise your hand if you believe ..." kind of conservatism we see blooming every election cycle. No, I'm speaking of the conservatism grounded in principles based upon enduring truths: an understanding of the importance of human nature in the affairs of individuals and nations. Respect for the lessons of history, the importance of faith and tradition. The understanding that while man is prone to err, he is capable of great things when not subjugated by a too-powerful government. These are the principles that inspired our Founding Fathers, and resulted in a Constitution that delineated the powers of the central government, established checks and balances among the branches of government and further diffused governmental power by a system of Federalism.

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I joined Townhall and am writing exclusive commentaries for Townhall Magazine because I see them elevating the discourse on issues based on these principles -- smaller government, individual liberty, standing for common values that have become all too uncommon, a strong national defense and, most of all, an optimism and belief in America.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; fred; fredthompson; townhall

1 posted on 05/16/2008 12:56:44 AM PDT by CreativePerspective
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To: Politicalmom; jellybean; Josh Painter; ejonesie22; papasmurf; Bobbisox; DesScorp; thefactor; ...
FRED PING!!
2 posted on 05/16/2008 1:02:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The missed opportunities with Fred and/or Duncan as the Nominee are almost too much to bare...


3 posted on 05/16/2008 1:08:56 AM PDT by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: JDoutrider

I’m 100% with you that they would have been the ideal candidate, but I wonder how much they could have done with a Democrat Congress. Also, I read this, and think back to his campaign, and wonder what in the world this guy sees in McCain.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 1:21:22 AM PDT by villagerjoel (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: JDoutrider
The missed opportunities with Fred and/or Duncan as the Nominee are almost too much to bare...

Who was bare? Fred and/or Duncan? Glad I missed it.

The dog barks, but the caravan moves on.

5 posted on 05/16/2008 2:04:44 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: CreativePerspective
First, conservatism is alive and well in America; don't let anyone tell you differently. And by conservatism, I don't mean the warmed-over "raise your hand if you believe ...

We believe Fred! We believe! Should I start clapping my hands? Will Tinkerbell make it ok?!?

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*sigh*

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"ALL YOU KNOW HAS COME TO AN END..."

OK, guys. Sorry to be a downer. It's just that I honestly feel like I'm preparing for a 4 year siege (or longer) moreso than the resurgence of the conservative movement. Politically, the RINOs are off the preserve and have found the China shop.

6 posted on 05/16/2008 2:05:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: JDoutrider

It wasn’t in the big plan for Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson to be in the race. I wondered why they dropped out prematurely then realized that they didn’t fit the Globalist agenda. End of story.

I weep for my country and the coming extirpation of our rights and Freedoms we enjoyed as American citizens.


7 posted on 05/16/2008 3:01:12 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter/John Bolton in 2008!)
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To: CreativePerspective
Fred noting that the conservative movement is not dead rings of the fact that he as well as us here have realized the RNC & McCain have left us.

Fred may be one of our voices in the dark times to come, to help us keep up morale. Let us hope "Operation Chaos" has the effect of shutting down the open primaries which gave us the likes of Senator Juan.

This was not Fred's time, and I am not sure in the future it will be his, he may be to long in the tooth at that point. But continuing to write on enduring conservative principles only will enhance his resume which he may not need, but may help to leave a legacy of thought for us to ponder.

The question is, do we take these Conservative Ideals and try to remake the RNC or start over with a clean slate. The latter is looking better all the time.

8 posted on 05/16/2008 3:03:39 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: CreativePerspective

Fred is my vote for VP. Who cares if the ticket would be the oldsters?

McCain needs to come out, guns blaring. He’s pro life. He’s pro military. He is NOT Bush. At least this time we have someone who we know is a RINO BEFORE he takes the Presidency.

Obama is a lightweight, no matter how popular he is. I think he is also on the downlow, and Hillary can’t nail him for it because of Huma. She’d win it if she just came out with the dirt she’s got. Dems would understand her affair, they would not understand Obama’s.

Fred just step up, you are more conservative than Romney. You just didn’t have the right script to read. You’re the man for VP. Will make McCain go down a lot sweeter with conservatives like me.


9 posted on 05/16/2008 3:36:21 AM PDT by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: CreativePerspective

Does this mean that Senator Thompson is ruling himself out for the Vice Presidency? How would this affect his future campaign possibilities?

I do wish he had stuck it out a while longer. Since he did not - and then he’s virtually disappeared from the scene - I have lost hope for his nomination as VP. I certainly would have loved to have his voice and views as the leader of the Senate.

However, if he would use TownHall as a forum to goad the GOP and McCain into moving to the right, he could be a force for good.

How many of us here have the perception that no one at the top of the Party is listening to us?

Fred, your campaign was not lost because of your stand on the issues. It was lost because voters who only get their news from the mainstream media only caught a glimpse of your candidacy at the South Carolina debates.

Stop being nice. Do not disappear again. Speak Conservative words to and for Conservatives to those not-so-Conservative leaders of the Republican Party.


10 posted on 05/16/2008 4:00:52 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Petronski

FYI ping:)


11 posted on 05/16/2008 4:18:23 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: hocndoc
Thompson's interview with Hannity April 24. and the question about the Vice Presidency

“That’s not in the cards,” Thompson said. “That’s not what I want. Well…and I don’t think that call [from McCain] would ever happen. I think John needs somebody else. I would advise him if he asked me that he needs someone else, of a different profile. The presidency is the only job in town that’s worth going through what you got to go through to get it, including the vice presidency….”

12 posted on 05/16/2008 4:26:56 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: CreativePerspective; jellybean

They’re hinting on Fox that Fred’s going to be interviewed this morning.


13 posted on 05/16/2008 4:33:12 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: #1CTYankee

Then let the Senator be the voice for the rest of us.


14 posted on 05/16/2008 4:44:17 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: CreativePerspective

FDT on Fox, re the Bush/Knesset flap: “Does the shoe fit?” Fred says the Dems are saying, we haven’t advocated negotiating with terrorists, only negotiating with sponsors of terrorists (such as Iran).

Fred says the leader of the free world can’t be a babe in the woods.

More coming up after commercials.


15 posted on 05/16/2008 4:52:41 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: CreativePerspective

I swear I’ve heard more from Fred since he dropped out than I did when he was running.


16 posted on 05/16/2008 4:54:41 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Politicalmom; jellybean; Petronski

Fred just mentioned now on FOX that he’s writing a book:) “....anything to avoid real work...” LOL:)


17 posted on 05/16/2008 4:55:25 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Thanks for mentioning that. I tuned back in just in time!


18 posted on 05/16/2008 5:00:35 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: JDoutrider
The missed opportunities with Fred and/or Duncan as the Nominee are almost too much to bare...

I say George Soros manipulated the Republican primaries...

Someone needs to start rumors. The truth, that Republicans chose McCain, is in need of an excuse.

19 posted on 05/16/2008 5:00:56 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Politicalmom

Brian asked Fred about the global warming issue and McCain..Fred said he doesn’t agree with McCain on everything- remember- I ran against him- said there was only one perfect candidate and he’s not running anymore ;)

What a contrast he is- to McCain and Obama. Sane, level-headed, solid.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 5:01:05 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: CreativePerspective

On Fox and Friends, Fred is plugging townhall; mentions talking to publishers “anything to avoid real work as long as possible.”

Asked “Is McCain conservative enough?” Fred’s mantra is “solid.” McCain’s very solid on national security, solid on appointment of federal judges, the “second most important thing a president will do.” Not just SCOTUS but other levels as well.

Finally, they force it out of him, Fred uses the words “rock solid and conservative” about McCain.

*sigh*


21 posted on 05/16/2008 5:01:06 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: CreativePerspective
Run Fred. Run.
22 posted on 05/16/2008 5:01:17 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush won't defeat Obama. Rev. Wright or Michelle Obama will.)
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To: CreativePerspective

Guys..a lot of folks seem to think what’s happening to the GOP is suicide....I contend its homicide.

In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802383/posts

Washington is so jammed with parasites looking for a teat...that ANY organized opposition-IOW any Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership.

Pay attention the the Farm Bill that just passed. Its not the average American Joe that is demanding handouts that’s driving the bus here.

It”s any large organization that has the cash to buy a few K St. lobbyists to twist congress’ arm. The boys on Capitol Hill that are unresponsive to said arm twisting...well these organizations can afford to make sure they’re replaced in the next election cycle-and in fact, with what the new boys will send them legislatively will far more than make up for the cost of replacing a recalcitrant congresscritter. We American’s have a far bigger problem on our hands here than any of us could possibly imagine in our worst nightmare.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 5:03:05 AM PDT by mo
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To: CreativePerspective
Fred might be the one SCOTUS choice McLame will be able to get through the Senate he'll face. Well, the one conservative choice, that is.
24 posted on 05/16/2008 5:16:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Just because you're running for President doesn't mean that you are the center of the universe")
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To: CreativePerspective

Thanks for posting this ray of sunshine.


25 posted on 05/16/2008 5:35:31 AM PDT by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years, because Truman first withdrew troops from Korea in 1949.)
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To: taildragger

[Let us hope “Operation Chaos” has the effect of shutting down the open primaries which gave us the likes of Senator Juan.]

That’s the real genius of Rush, it may force the closing of crossover primaries.


26 posted on 05/16/2008 6:50:38 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Fred might be the one SCOTUS choice McLame will be able to get through the Senate he'll face. Well, the one conservative choice, that is.

Oh, now THAT would be interesting!! The Dems might even go along with it, because of Fred's age. Heh. The man could do a LOT of good, and who knows, he could outlive all of the folks who are there now!

27 posted on 05/16/2008 7:08:52 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CreativePerspective; Politicalmom; carlo3b; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; ...
I [Fred] joined Townhall and am writing exclusive commentaries for Townhall Magazine because I see them elevating the discourse on issues based on these principles -- smaller government, individual liberty, standing for common values that have become all too uncommon, a strong national defense and, most of all, an optimism and belief in America.

Video of Fred on Fox and Friends this morning.


28 posted on 05/16/2008 8:56:48 AM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: SuziQ

See tagline.


29 posted on 05/16/2008 9:38:29 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: jellybean

If Fred is for all of this; why the devil is he backing John McCain?


30 posted on 05/16/2008 10:49:59 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mo
As little as six months ago I would have probably dismissed your post as tinfoil hat time - now, not so much.
31 posted on 05/16/2008 11:50:03 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (You're not just seeing things if you can get others to see them too. Now about the voices...)
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To: freekitty
why the devil is he backing John McCain?

A couple of reason:

  1. They're friends
  2. They're both Republicans
If you watch the video from Fox and Friends, you'll hear him say he doesn't agree with all of John McCain's positions. He agrees with him on national security, nominating judges, taxes and trade.
32 posted on 05/16/2008 12:15:48 PM PDT by jellybean (Write in Fred! - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: jellybean

Aw, thanks for the ping, jellybean.

I remember the comments of one Thompson staffer when Fred left the race: if he can’t be Reagan, be Goldwater. I’m glad he’s sticking around to try to remind folks of what the Republican party is supposed to stand for.


33 posted on 05/16/2008 12:28:57 PM PDT by ellery (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock -T. Jefferson)
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To: taildragger
I am in agreement with your feelings on the Republican Party. It is no longer the Grand Old Party. Over the last 10 years especially, it has morphed into the party of middle of the road, moderation, rather than the party whose basic premise was in first and foremost unwavering support for the conservation of our Constitution and principles from which this Great Republic sprung.

It is sad that so few Americans even know about or understand the great lengths our first President, George Washington, went to educate the electorate on the pitfalls of engaging in "party" politics.

Now, over 200 years later, it is neigh impossible to put that Genie back into the bottle.

In fact, not considering all of the lesser parties, the "two" party system is failing us and will not, in my most humble and long life experiencing opinion, be changed from within.

Our founding fathers, recognized that there could come a time for us to change our form of governance. Unfortunately, even though we have the mechanisms to do just that, the Republicans and Democrats have such a "death" grip on our political process, that I see no practical way to affect a change.

This leaves, each of us who are concerned in that old position of being between a "rock and a hard place". Just what can we do as citizens of the republic, especially those of us who love our founding principles and find our constant flight from those principles abhorrent?

I can only speak for myself. From way out here in the Bleacher Seats, I see little I can do, other than living by those stated "conservative and traditional" principles that motivated our founding fathers. And I have decided that I will no longer "play the game" the Democrats and Republicans have stacked the rules in.

I am finished voting "against" or for the "lesser of two evils". My vote is mine to cast as I see fit.

Many here on this forum decry those of us who have reached the point that we are not going to cast that type of vote any longer. Heck, for most of my life, I championed the argument myself. No longer! It has been the problem not the solution and the elected officials have all too well learned that regardless of their actions after election day they can always "lie" to us in the next election cycle and ruthlessly count on "us" to be there for them, election after election, after election.

By the looks of things they keep winning with that philosophy.

I simply am not going to "play that game any longer"!

Change within our system is meant to be slow and while I might not be around to see the end result, I am no longer supporting the Republicans or Democrats, with a blind faith. To be sure, some may get my vote from time to time, but the days of blindly following, campaigning for, and especially giving money to any "political party" are gone for this citizen.

I suspect I am not alone in having come to my decision.

34 posted on 05/16/2008 12:30:39 PM PDT by ImpBill (Hi, My name is Greg and I am a recovering "R"epublican! And I have recovered into a "r"epublican.)
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To: hocndoc
"How many of us here have the perception that no one at the top of the Party is listening to us?"

In case you are counting heads, there for sure two of us!

35 posted on 05/16/2008 12:32:24 PM PDT by ImpBill (Hi, My name is Greg and I am a recovering "R"epublican! And I have recovered into a "r"epublican.)
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To: RockinRight

Works for me!


36 posted on 05/16/2008 1:25:05 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: VRWCtaz
When you think of the opportunities of BILLIONS..being impeded by the actions of 220 Conservatives.....that impediment goes away when there are only 200 of them...the few millions spent to do so are a pretty good investment.
37 posted on 05/16/2008 1:29:40 PM PDT by mo
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To: freekitty
If Fred is for all of this; why the devil is he backing John McCain?

Because McCain's the REPUBLICAN nominee, and no matter how imperfect he is, he's far and away better than either Obama or Her Heinous. I don't agree with those who say it's perfectly fine to let the country go to hell in a handbasket to 'teach folks a lesson' about not voting conservative in the primaries.

When Ross Perot ruined GHWB's chances for a second term, folks thought they'd be ok allowing X42 to become President. The Cold War was over, and there weren't any real threats to us. That's all changed, and we can't afford to have a feckless President who isn't willing to stand against the Islamic tide and protect this nation.

38 posted on 05/16/2008 1:29:47 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I don’t recall advocating the country going to hell in a handbasket. McCanin is the nominee only in name. He was not selected by the people and you should be concerned about that rather than voting blindly for him. Although I am not really sure what he is; I do believe he is not a conservative.

We really can’t afford to have any of these pre-selected candidates in office. As long as people continue to vote whichever way the wind blows; we will get this and much worse.


39 posted on 05/16/2008 2:16:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will enjoy reading Fred’s articles immensely. And we can all wonder at what might have, no SHOULD HAVE been.


40 posted on 05/16/2008 2:21:03 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I didn't leave the republicans, they left me.)
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To: jellybean

Justices Thomas and Ginsburg are friends and what exactly is a Republican now?


41 posted on 05/16/2008 2:22:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Caipirabob; freekitty; oswegodeee; gonzo; Arrowhead1952

Time for a Conservative Party so we can all maintain our sanity.


42 posted on 05/16/2008 2:32:19 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Exactly


43 posted on 05/16/2008 4:35:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: jellybean

Thanks for the ping!!

Oh, how I miss Fred....


44 posted on 05/16/2008 8:04:16 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: freekitty
McCanin is the nominee only in name. He was not selected by the people and you should be concerned about that rather than voting blindly for him.

Actually he WAS selected by a plurality of voters in the Republican primaries. Unfortunately, for us, there were several conservative candidates this time around, and our votes were split among them, leaving McCain with the largest number of votes and delegates. We, who didn't vote for him in the primaries, may not like it, but that's what happens in primaries; always has, always will.

McCain has some ideas which most would consider conservative, but he's ticked off a lot of conservatives with his ideas about illegal immigrants and campaign funding. But he wouldn't be able to do anything about illegal immigration as President, without the approval of Congress, just as he wasn't able to get campaign finance reform done without the votes of his fellow members of Congress.

Overall, he is much more conservative than either Obama or Her Heinous, so, even though I didn't support him in the primary, I have no qualms about voting for him in the General Election, because I do NOT want a Democrat sitting in the White House with Islamic terrorists looking for every opportunity to kill as many Americans as they can. I'm going into this with my eyes wide open; nothing blind about it.

45 posted on 05/16/2008 9:11:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Sorry, I believe you are voting for who they tell you to vote for.


46 posted on 05/16/2008 9:29:40 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty
You can believe as you wish, it's a free country. But there are only TWO candidates running for President, who have any real chance to be elected, and I will vote for the one who will NOT put our military at risk, who will not push for government paid abortions for any woman who wants one, and who might even place Justices on the Supreme court who won't legislate from the bench. I KNOW for a fact that NO Democrat will meet those requirements, and I don't need anyone 'telling me who to vote for' to figure that out.

I KNOW for a fact, after the Ross Perot debacles in 1992 and 1996, that getting one's knickers in a twist and voting against the Republican out of spite or anger, or whatever EMOTION happens to govern at the time, doesn't make for a healthy political situation, if it means that an appeasing, pro-abortion Democrat is allowed, by default or purpose, to win the White House.

47 posted on 05/17/2008 6:23:12 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Oh pleeezzzzeee, stop with your sanctimonious lecture screed. I could care less about the dribble you seem to think is what this is about. Let's cut through the bs, shall we?

What made America a great country was not falling in line with the pseudo bs being presented. Our country became great because of men and women who stepped out of that line and took a chance on independence; not worshiping at the altar of the least resistance.

And as long we allow chaos and running around in circles in our party; nothing will get done; which is pretty much what our enemies want.

48 posted on 05/17/2008 8:50:29 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: jellybean

Thanks for the ping. I’m glad to see Fred is back in the debate. He was great on that interview.


49 posted on 05/17/2008 5:59:14 PM PDT by daylilly
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