Posted on 05/16/2008 6:45:07 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
TWO DAYS after former Republican Rep. Bob Barr announced his candidacy for President as a Libertarian, and one day after a Republican lost a special election to a Democrat in a strongly GOP Mississippi district, more than half of House Republicans voted for the pork-saturated, $300 billion farm bill.
Idiots.
Three weeks ago, a Rasmussen Reports poll found that 48 percent of Americans trusted Democrats more than Republicans on the economy. Only 40 percent trusted Republicans more. That is the legacy of big-spending Republican policies pushed by leaders like Tom DeLay and President Bush and continued by the current GOP minority in the House.
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Here’s more of what I was referring to on that other thread.
The idiocy of these people knows no boundaries.
In Mississippi, you did have a hard fought Republican primary just weeks before these runoffs with Childers between Greg Davis and Glenn McCollugh. McCollugh was the more establishment candidate and lost by only a few hundred votes. I personally don’t think many of McCullogh’s supporters came to Davis’ defense after such a hard fought primary with negative ads.
Add the DNC charge that Davis was KKK, which he is not of course,but it was used to stir up black churches.
Republican leaders have no one to blame but them selves.. JUst called the leader of the senate to express my concern over the sneaky amnesty bill going in the Iraqi funding bill, was told he was not going to make any statements on it.. and I was not allowed to tell my thoughts, before getting hung up on...this is Republican leadership..
You promised to be a Republican and all you have become is another RINO. Do you realize what you have allowed the Liberals to do with allowing the Polar Bear to become an endangered species is this NO OIL DRILLING IN ALASKA. Thanks for all your help in forcing us into a scenario of $8 dollars a gallon for gas.
In addition sir thank you so much for not even sending a member of your staff to talk with City Of Miramar Vice Mayor Troy Samuels on his recent visit to Washington DC to talk for the Cities Agency of Broward County. I notice you never seem to miss a photo op with Latin City Members. Guess what you just spit in the eye of the only Republican member of the City of Miramar City Commision. Good thinking Senator.As the head of our 614 voter home owners association we will remember this at your next re-election campaign in Florida.
Unquote. Thats his answer to my suggestion that Congress is not going to stop until we are paying $8 a gallon for gas. With there stupid ideas and wacky way of doing things.
The idiots that run the GOP have given us President Hussein Obama. We can delude ourselves and pretend that Captain Queeg has a chance, but Hussein is going to win and he is going to have a veto proof majority in Congress to back his ultra left wing agenda. God help us all. And we can thank George Bush and the Republican “leadership” for wasting the last 7 years. The Republican party has had no compass since Newt Gingrich was forced out in 1998. Gingrich had many flaws, but he articulated a conservative vision and stuck to it. The spineless weasels that followed him were useless. Shame on them all. I wont give one damn nickel to the GOP this year, and I will not vote for Captain Queeg. Local candidates only, although in my liberal district, they are all going to get trounced.
The same Union Leader who enthusiastically endorsed and worked for John McCain’s nomination?
I agree with you. Right now the majority of the people wanting to vote for Mclame are the “Republican at any cost crowd”.
They don’t seem to understand that conservatives for the most part, are not Republicans first. They are CONSERVATIVES first. After years and years of “just vote once more and we’ll do X for you” we’ve had it and are no longer going to swallow their friggin koolaid.
The time has long passed for the Idiot Party to pony up and keep it’s promises. It’s long passed for them to start fighting the Liberals and Leftists hard and viciously. It’s long past that they should have shrunk this government down and made it a leaner less beucratic entity.
Now it’s too late. They reap what they have sown and the Idiot Party will once again be wandering in the wilderness lost and alone.
This is the price of hubris.
Of the $307 billion, just over 66 percent, about $200 billion is for food stamps and other domestic nutrition programs such as emergency food assistance. Maybe they were looking forward to the commercials that wil run against Republicans who voted to “starve the poor and take food from the mouths of poor school children” - they determined a yea vote would avoid that issue.
Some people would say they’ve learned nothing. Others would say they are principled, and they just don’t give a damn what their base thinks... They are going to do what they think is right. Either way, they aren’t much use to anyone.
You are right except for one thing. Gingrich is also part of the problem. He was too involved in “personal matters” to do his job. But this GWB seems to have been planning for Oprah’s Obama as his successor since 2003. I actually think he had HRC in mind though.
I keep getting GOP questionnaires that are basically paper push polling. I write in the margins the the exact sentiments you express and mail them back.
The GOP has abandoned us.
I hope Bobby Jindal will be around in 8 years. repubs are going to get spanked hard and will -if it's not to late- come back to us down the road.
Imagine an Obama Presidency with a veto proof majority in the House and the Senate. America will be unrecognizable in four years, to most of us, and not for the better. I am so ashamed of this party and of my government, right now. I fear for the future of this country with Obama at the helm and the Democrats unchecked in Congress.
The only hope I have is that they are going to seriously misread the mood of the country just like the Republicans did, and they will think that America has suddenly turned hard left overnight. And the Dems and Obama will go bonkers and overreach, and the country will react harshly to them. And they'll be thrown out in 2010 and 2012 once it sinks in to the nation what they did in electing them.
But I wonder if it won't be too late by then.
“dunces: republicans learn nothing.”
yup. they certainly have learned nothing after having appeased democrats and seen the results.
(heil hillary!!!)
I think a mere six months of Obama and this congress will be disastrous for our country.
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I think it will only take 3 months.
A fair point, insofar as McCain's mushy-middle tendencies are concerned. But also in fairness, McCain has been more of a deficit hawk and less of a free spender than many of his colleagues in the Senate.
When you can't tell the difference between republicans and democrats why vote?
If the Republicans cannot learn how to effectively respond to demagoguery of this sort (as is heard every election year), they will never again command a majority.
So the polls show Americans don’t like gov spending, so they want liberals in office? LOL
Ummmmm......sounds exactly like the MSM/DNC/Hollywood/Academia propaganda.
I think the public is greatly confused, in no small measure due to how Republicans have worked to erase the hard-won distinctions between themselves and Democrats in their support for big government. When you spend money like a vodka-soaked Russian sailor on shore leave in a Swedish brothel, people do tend to take notice. At the same time, Democrats have positioned themselves, disingenuously but smartly, as the Party of Fiscal Responsibility. And right now, it's working.
Well McCain wasn't running in the primary against his free spending colleagues in the Senate but nonetheless those are some conservative credentials to run on. I'm interested in seeing how his Green fantasies bump up against government spending. In fairness he did go to Iowa and tell them he didn't support their ethanol subsidies. But when the Green laws come down, and people are tossed out of work... who are they going to call? Big Nanny Gov't to bail everyone out. Will the "heartless" McCain say Hell No!? I'm thinking he'll want to be loved by the media again.
” a Rasmussen Reports poll found that 48 percent of Americans trusted Democrats more than Republicans on the economy. Only 40 percent trusted Republicans more.”
I took one of these silly polls last night. Like the anti-war democrats on capitol hill, they considered the War in Iraq a seperate issue from national security.
I don’t think the Republicans will lose anywhere near 70 seats, but the morning after Election Day will likely hold in store a brutal hangover. In that same vein, it may be similar to dealing with a recidivist alcoholic: sometimes you just have to let them hit rock bottom before they are in enough pain to be ready to change their behavior.
Only a small percentage of us disagree with Republican and Democrat spending.
Any positioning by the Dems on “fiscal responsibility” is only strengthened because they have the entire news media on their side. (why else would they have reported a gas tax holiday as a “gimmick”, if Obama had been for it, and McCain against, the reporting would have been the opposite, as it has in the past)
Study news coverage carefully of proposal by Dems and Republicans, it is consistent, if Rs turn down a spending bill, they are mean and heartless, if Dems offer a spending bill they are compassionate, if Rs offer some spending it is irresponsible.
This is what the majority of our ignorant population responds to, not actual facts, data, and history. Nor do they watch debates in Congress to see who is for what and why.
Obviously the evidence shows that Conservatives (whose home is within the Republican party) are small government pols. Moderate Republicans vote with the tax and spend Democrat Party.
Any informed voter knows if they prefer smaller government, their only vote is with a Conservative Republican.
That’s pretty lame, whom ever wrote it.
Who will we replace them with? Republicans? d:^/
There's a little problem with that, however: such a government is utterly at odds with our Constitution and somebody, some Party needs to be willing to fight on behalf of those who still care.
The public knows that conservatives represent smaller government, but they are also aware that many Republicans are no longer conservatives, including a wide swath of the GOP leadership, which has time and again failed to respond effectively to the Democrat's lies about them. And that's not the news media's fault, either (as rotten as the MSM is).
When someone accuses you of starving children and throwing Grandma under the bus, you don't answer by "respectfully disagreeing with my colleague, the gentleman from Massghanistan" - you announce that he's a lying SOB who ought to try saying it to your face, outside, right now. In other words, the GOP desperately needs to open its self-imposed testicle lockbox and learn how to fight for what they purport to believe in.
Sen. Judd Gregg, before voting against the bill Thursday morning, had a good summary of its ridiculous economics.
“Some may ask, and I may have wondered, what happened to all the economists who worked for the Soviet Union when it failed, who were sitting at their desks and they didn't have a job anymore? Folks who believed in a commissar economy, who believed in top-down management of the economy, who believed in five-year plans, who believed that supply and demand had no relationship to markets — where did those people go?
“We know, they went into the development of present farm policy.”
REP. INHOFE AT THE PRESS CLUB THURSDAY.
Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON — Sen. Jim Inhofe joined religious leaders from the Southern Baptist General Convention and other groups on Thursday in asking Christians to sign a petition against global warming proposals that they say would hurt the poor.
... The “We Get It!” campaign launched Thursday encourages Christians to sign a statement that says stewardship of the environment should be based on biblical principles and “factual evidence.” It says “environmental policies must not further oppress the world's poor by denying them basic needs.”
Barrett Duke, vice president of the Ethics and Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, said the “science isn't settled” on global warming.
He also said that “the poor will be hit hardest if we make energy and food more expensive.”
Inhofe, R-Tulsa, and others at a news conference, said evangelicals aren't as divided over the issue of global warming as the public might think.
Why not be pro-active, battle the MSM, work hard to actually produce.
Instead I read constant complaining.
Congressment buying votes and campaign contributions with our tax dollars again- what a surprise! NOT
Guys..a lot of folks seem to think what’s happening to the GOP is suicide....I contend its homicide.
In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802383/posts
Washington is so jammed with parasites looking for a teat...that ANY organized opposition-IOW any Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership.
Pay attention the the Farm Bill that just passed. Its not the average American Joe that is demanding handouts that’s driving the bus here.
It’s any large organization that has the cash to buy a few K St. lobbyists to twist congress’ arm. The boys on Capitol Hill that are unresponsive to said arm twisting...well these organizations can afford to make sure they’re replaced in the next election cycle-and in fact, with what the new boys will send them legislatively will far more than make up for the cost of replacing a recalcitrant congresscritter. We American’s have a far bigger problem on our hands here than any of us could possibly imagine in our worst nightmare.
It’s a lot easier to cut taxes than it is to cut spending. People who don’t pay much tax do not mind very much if the tax rate goes down, and those who do pay are all for it. But spending is a different game. Every dollar of Federal spending has a powerful, well-organized lobby in Washington protecting it, while those bearing the cost (the taxpayers) are poorly organized and not directly influential on policy. This is sometimes called the “problem of concentrated benefits and dispersed costs”, and it would not be occurring if not for the vast (and unconstitutional) expansion of the power of the Federal government during the past 75 years.
So in other words, they've abandoned all principles of limited government and are instead stealing my money so they can buy votes with it to keep their own useless hides in office. Pathetic.
Well Newt should try to convince the House and Senate leadership that they better look at those losses and Obama as the End of their Party. Where is the motivation to have a Contract to voters how they would make the nation better. The House and Senate leaders seems stymied as to combatting these liberal socialist pacifists. Where is the vitality and the urgency? Only 6 months to go and ideas and votes may already be set in concrete for the Indies, youth and even seniors outside of the two Party voting clones.
There you go.
“dunces: republicans learn nothing.”
Willfull dunces. They are all on the same team down in DC. The RNC has left American Conservatives. We need a new party.
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