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Bush's Comments In Israel Fuel Anger
washingtonpost.com ^ | May 16, 2008 | Michael Abramowitz

Posted on 05/16/2008 6:48:22 AM PDT by jackv

Bush's comments about appeasement reverberated across the U.S. campaign trail, offering a new platform for Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to sharpen their lines of attack.

In the speech, Bush warned that the United States must not negotiate with Iran or radical groups such as Hamas.

"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," Bush told the Israeli lawmakers. "We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

Democrats angrily called the comment a veiled shot at Obama, who has advocated dialogue with Iran and Syria, but not the Palestinian group Hamas.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: appeasement; appeaseniks; bushappeasment; chamberlain; obama
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This is hilalrious. What crybabies!! boohoo!! Nevermind that it happens to be true tho!!! And obama wants to be president?? Whaaaaa! What a joke!
1 posted on 05/16/2008 6:48:23 AM PDT by jackv
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2 posted on 05/16/2008 6:50:40 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: jackv

Barack said he would “talk with our enemies”.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 6:50:43 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jackv

...especially when the President was referring to Jimmy Carter, not Obama.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 6:50:52 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: jackv
"Some seem to believe we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,"

Simple statement of fact.

5 posted on 05/16/2008 6:51:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: jackv

“Bush’s Comments In Israel Fuel Anger”

The ascendency and totally undeserved proximity to the Commander in Chief position of an unaccomplished, affirmative action, Marxist like ORacist fuels my anger...


6 posted on 05/16/2008 6:53:31 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: jackv
Democrats angrily called the comment a veiled shot at Obama,

Yeah, so what if it was? Presidential campaigns aren't for the thin-skinned -- the 'Rats are acting like they've never been there before. Never have I seen a candidate handled with such kid gloves before.

7 posted on 05/16/2008 6:53:59 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: jackv

The GOP needs to be pounding on the Democrat’s reaction because it’s become so obvious they want to do exactly what President Bush said shouldn’t be done.


8 posted on 05/16/2008 6:54:01 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: jackv

This story is evidence of Obama’s narcissism.


9 posted on 05/16/2008 6:56:59 AM PDT by Proudcongal
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To: jackv
A FReeper made the following comment yesterday about this issue:

(paraphrasing) "If you throw a shoe over the fence, the dog that yelps is the dog you hit."

I can't get this out of my mind! Way too funny!

10 posted on 05/16/2008 7:00:10 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: jackv
"We have a protocol . . . around here that we don't criticize the president when he is on foreign soil," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

No, you criticize America when you are on foreign soil. ....at every opportunity.

11 posted on 05/16/2008 7:01:02 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

“Never have I seen a candidate handled with such kid gloves before.”

Well, he is a.... shhhh.... black man, you know....

Descendents of slaves, continually get a MAJOR, across-the-board pass from the self-hating white liberals who dominate the media.


12 posted on 05/16/2008 7:02:04 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Bobalu
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13 posted on 05/16/2008 7:02:10 AM PDT by frogjerk (Hope is a theological virtue, not a campaign promise)
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To: jackv
"Yes, there have been appeasers in the past," McCain added. "The president is absolutely right." Asked whether he thought Obama was one of them, he said he didn't know.

Come on, Mac. Show a little spine and call a spade a spade.

14 posted on 05/16/2008 7:03:15 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: EyeGuy

He’s not a descendant of slaves.


15 posted on 05/16/2008 7:03:50 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: ichabod1

Maybe a descendant of vicious fools..


16 posted on 05/16/2008 7:05:21 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I fully expected McC to rebuke the president. At least he didn't join the Donk chorus...
17 posted on 05/16/2008 7:05:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ichabod1

Maybe a descendant of vicious fools..


18 posted on 05/16/2008 7:05:50 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: jackv

PMSNBC’s bias towards the dems/Obama and against the Repubs/McCain has reached a new low. This morning Mika and David Shuster were comforting each other by claiming that Bush’s attack on Obama is a winner for the dem and a sure fire loser for Mac. Shuster called Bush’s comments “patently dishonest,” he also tried to compare Obama’s position on his willingness and desire to speak with radical terror supporting regimes to Nixon’s visit to China. I know PMSNBC is in the tank for the dems, but now they don’t even try to hide it.


19 posted on 05/16/2008 7:09:39 AM PDT by moose2004
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To: Mr. Mojo

McCain doesn’t have the balls to call a spade a spade or a shovel. He should have been all over Barak the Appeaser and stay on him. The man said it in a debate and he brags about it. Make him a Poster Boy for appeasement, most Americans will no buy that BS. I can’t believe that these two assholes are the best that America has to offer for President.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 7:09:54 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

McCain would probably leave the grownups in charge.


21 posted on 05/16/2008 7:12:50 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: EyeGuy

How is Obama a decndant of slaves? His father was from Kenya nad his mother a white woman from Kansas?


22 posted on 05/16/2008 7:17:05 AM PDT by shawnlaw (Things is things and parts is parts...)
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To: jackv

Yesterday, wittle Cwissy Maffews was ranting about how: “Chamberlain signed away half of Czechoslovakia to Hitler; THAT was appeasement. THAT’S DIFFERENT from just talking to the bad guys. When we TALK, we’re not giving away anything. So it’s not appeasement. So THERE (sticks out tongue).”

Now, Cwissy, when you talk with terrorists and rogues, you are treating them as equals. That is giving them something, the very thing that they want. Prestige, recognition, encouragement, aid and comfort, credibility in the eyes of others whom they’d love to recruit to stand alongside themselves. Something that has been withheld from them all along, but now, because you are talking with them, they receive in abundance. Oh yes, Cwissy, you are giving away something, alright. Why do you think we don’t give them that recognition, up front?

Now, on the other hand, obviously, SECRET talks are swirling about all the time. You just can’t give these types the vainglory of having any talks at or above the official diplomatic level. Good grief.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 7:17:41 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great...(until it happens to YOU).)
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To: jackv

Agreed,big time.
It’s fine and freakin’ dandy when the Rats besmirch and berate Bush (comparing him to Hitler,for instance)on a regular basis,and all is quiet on the media front-of course. But let Bush state the painfully obvious and it’s Armageddon. All this little exercise has done is to open up the ugly stinking can of worms that is the liberal ideology-capitulate,appease,yada,yada.It’s brought to light what conservatives have known forever.


24 posted on 05/16/2008 7:18:22 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Liberals (and RINOS) act as if stupidity were a virtue.)
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To: Tex Pete

All dhimmirats are cowardly appeasers.

They just don’t like it when light is shown on their cowardice - especially when that light comes from historical precedent.


25 posted on 05/16/2008 7:19:32 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: moose2004

Its times when there is stuff on PMSNBC like you described that I become a champion of McCain because th bias is so bad.


26 posted on 05/16/2008 7:21:29 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Mr. Mojo

And she also likes to practice international diplomacy as the shadow (British term for opposition party) Secretary of State. Nancy and Jimmuh should have had their passports revoked.


27 posted on 05/16/2008 7:23:30 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: Tex Pete

Everytime dems call mccain “Bush III”, the response should be “vs. Carter II?”.

ha!


28 posted on 05/16/2008 7:23:41 AM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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To: Bobalu

Even if it WAS a veiled shot at Obama,( and it wasn’t!) who gives a rip?
It’s TRUE!
Anyone who’s been paying attention for the last 30 years knows the United States stated policy is NO negotiation with terrorists.
Obamarama would change all that in a heartbeat.
Let GWB say whatever he damn pleases. Bush isn’t running for re-election, so what has he got to lose?
Obamarama can take it any way he likes.
Whatta punk.


29 posted on 05/16/2008 7:24:02 AM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: jackv

Can it be used to fuel cars?


30 posted on 05/16/2008 7:26:48 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ichabod1; shawnlaw

“He’s not a descendant of slaves.”

I know that.

I was putting myself in the mindset of white liberals, who believe that, by default, ALL blacks should get a free pass.

Re-entering that sick perspective:

Whether they are directly related to slaves or not, the taint of that long-dead institution reaches its nasty, oppressive, discriminatory hand across the ages to oppress and hold back all people of color to this day.

Besides, unenlightened, knuckle-dragging conservatives would have all blacks back in shackles if it weren’t for the efforts of progressive, enlightened, inclusive liberals...


31 posted on 05/16/2008 7:28:14 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: gimme1ibertee

Nice post.


32 posted on 05/16/2008 7:28:53 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: jackv

Bush’s statement about appeasement is an “inconvenient truth”. Every time you point out an aspect of reality that the Democrats don’t like or don’t want to deal with, they call it “dirty”. These people are like children in the schoolyard, and they shouldn’t be governing this country.


33 posted on 05/16/2008 7:29:32 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: jackv

Pres Polar Bear Bush is back in the good graces of FReepers for a nanosecond.


34 posted on 05/16/2008 7:33:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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To: EyeGuy

“Descendents of slaves, continually get a MAJOR, across-the-board pass”

Except that Obama is descended from a white American mother and an economist from Kenya, neither of whom had slaves in their ancestry.

In any event, your ancestry should be a non-factor in determining whether you’d make a President.


35 posted on 05/16/2008 7:34:11 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: moose2004

“...claiming that Bush’s attack on Obama is a winner for the dem ..”

We’ll see how the Jewish voting bloc reacts. Obambi’s left wing views, amateurish babbling, not to mention the anti-semitism permeating the left wing blogs, have to give them pause.


36 posted on 05/16/2008 7:38:15 AM PDT by y6162
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To: jackv

I see some political strategy here. The Obama camp fell right into the trap.

McCain needs the story to be the WOT, it is all has has to differentiate himself from the Democrats.

If he can get the story off the economy, and issues at home, he can refocus all the attention on what is Obamas weakest issue.

Obama camp sure is dumb. They themselves have now made it the issue.


37 posted on 05/16/2008 7:38:23 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: EyeGuy

Oh, ok, gotcha. Just like whites who are not the descendents of slave owners still benefit from a racist oppressive caste system and thus owe reparations.


38 posted on 05/16/2008 7:38:24 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: RightWhale
Pres Polar Bear Bush is back in the good graces of FReepers for a nanosecond.

I suspect that not long into either a McCain or Obama Presidency GWB will be viewed with much nostalgia around these parts.

39 posted on 05/16/2008 7:40:12 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: popdonnelly

see post 31


40 posted on 05/16/2008 7:42:08 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: jackv

To paraphrase Duke Leto Atreides, Bush has displayed an off-the-rack suit, and some are claiming it was custom tailored for them.


41 posted on 05/16/2008 7:44:59 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: Mr. Mojo

Moreso since our recent conservative heart-throb Gov Palin, Alaska, has introduced the $1.2 billion socialist giveaway to Alaskans.


42 posted on 05/16/2008 7:48:51 AM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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To: ichabod1

“Just like whites who are not the descendents of slave owners still benefit from a racist oppressive caste system and thus owe reparations.”

Precisely.

Even though my grandparents on both sides, immigrated to the US in the early 20th century, 50 years after the Civil War, I receive that special whitey slave benefits check we all get monthly.

I can see what’s coming, so I’ve been contributing to my own special reparations fund, for that day when the bill comes from Oprah’s...I mean Obama’s... NewHope government...


43 posted on 05/16/2008 7:51:11 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: indylindy

Dick Morris believes it was a brilliant idea to nail obama down as an appeaser. He thinks mccain suggested it.
obama should have come out and said, that’s right, appeasement never works, but no, he and the dimwits all came out crying, “how dare he call obama that!”
Why else would they assume it was about him if it weren’t true?
hahahaha!


44 posted on 05/16/2008 7:52:19 AM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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To: frogjerk

45 posted on 05/16/2008 7:54:53 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: jackv

The Obama camp wasn’t smart enough to ignore what Bush said. The BDS was it’s downfall.

The MSM hate Bush, so his trip wouldn’t have gotten all that much play and would have been forgotten quickly.

Instead, Obamas weak card is being exploited over and over.

I look to see them find a way to quickly change the emphasis one again, realizing what idiots they were in owning what Bush said.

I am going to head out and get some more popcorn.


46 posted on 05/16/2008 8:02:11 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: shawnlaw
How is Obama a decndant of slaves? His father was from Kenya nad his mother a white woman from Kansas?

I'm sure if we all could trace our genealogies back far enough, we'd find out at some point one of our forefathers were enslaved. World history is rife with enslavement, blacks don't have exclusive rights to the "children of slavery" title. For cryin' out loud, there are people held in slavery right now today.

47 posted on 05/16/2008 8:05:00 AM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: jackv

I was just thinking on what the Obama camp answer to Bush and his speech reminded me of “the smellers the feller” LOL


48 posted on 05/16/2008 8:06:01 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
To be fair to Neville Chamberlain -- he later realized and owned up his mistaken "way of the appeaser". He fully supported the war effort against Nazi Germany and Hitler.

Jimmy Carter and like ilk are far worse -- they are unrepentant exploitive lying traitorous scum. Chamberlain was an honest man and a patriot.

49 posted on 05/16/2008 8:06:39 AM PDT by bvw
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To: jackv
Democrats angrily called the comment a veiled shot at Obama

When you through a rock into a pack of dogs, the one you hit makes the most noise.

From the DemocRAT rabid responses it seems that President Bush threw a handful of rocks.

50 posted on 05/16/2008 8:16:07 AM PDT by BillT (I still want a "None of the Above" vote for President)
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