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The True American Maverick
GOPUSA ^ | May 16, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 05/16/2008 9:30:45 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

When American voters think of the term "maverick," they often think of Senator John McCain because McCain has spent decades associating himself with that term. To some degree, McCain is right to call himself a "maverick," having independently departed the company of both his party and his constituents on many issues over the years.

The fact is, not so long ago every Republican was a "maverick," an independent thinker prone to placing the long-term interests of freedom and liberty far ahead of partisan politics aimed at only serving the party interests at the expense of national interests.

Every Republican should be a maverick, bucking an overtly corrupt system and representing the true will of the American majority which still believes in an "unalienable" right to life, individual liberty and the economic freedom to define and pursue individual happiness without fear of government intrusion or penalty.

Instead, too many Republicans have sold out the basic party principles of individual freedom and liberty for the same greater communal good offered by Democratic Socialists and as a result, Republicans find themselves in a free-fall from power, losing election after election to Democrat candidates smart enough to run to the right of Republicans on the issues, even though they will caucus with Democrats after the election.

The wrong kind of maverick

John McCain has indeed been a maverick in the Senate. But he has been the wrong kind of maverick.

(Excerpt) Read more at gopusa.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; mccain; protestvoters; republicans
I wish EVERY member of congress would read and heed these words! Well done!
1 posted on 05/16/2008 9:30:45 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Maverick = Backstabber


2 posted on 05/16/2008 9:33:18 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama pledges to give every typical small town white family a possum sandwich)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Self-styled conservatives who refuse to conserve that which can be conserved, are either outright frauds or emotion driven loud-mouth pretenders. The basis for being "conservative" is the perpetual act of "conserving" the principles and values we hold dear.

JB Williams, you are full of it. And stop sending that GOP spam to my e-mail box!!!

I'm not interested anymore.

3 posted on 05/16/2008 9:34:07 AM PDT by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for Juan McCain)
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To: MtnClimber

The term was positive in the good old days.

“John McCain has indeed been a maverick in the Senate. But he has been the wrong kind of maverick.”

I prefer thinking of James Garner or Mel Gibson...


4 posted on 05/16/2008 9:34:46 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: sauropod

If the definition of conservaive isn’t based upon the notion of “conserving” certain values and principles, what is it based on genius?


5 posted on 05/16/2008 9:36:10 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

The GOP is basically finished. It was killed by worthless sellout politicians who are totally owned by special interest groups and the Mexican government. They serve no purpose but their own enrichment. Screw them all. I’ll spit in their faces if they ever show up on my property.


6 posted on 05/16/2008 9:45:25 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Perhaps we need to get real here!

Do you really believe the the whole USA will vote a 100% Conversative to the Presidency?

I don’t think so!

A conservative candidate will need to move leftward a bit as necessary to pick up the independent, disgruntled democrats, and the like votes to make it.

I would think it is quite possible he will move rightward a bit once he is elected. After all, his Senate record shows a 70% plus conservative voting. Of course, I worry about some of his lefty votes are like lightnings from a nice blue sky!

The pick of his cabinet will be the key. We need to make certain that a sufficient number of OUR conversative people are selected to fill the spots plus conversative advisors.

Your thoughts?


7 posted on 05/16/2008 9:47:42 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: navyguy

John McCain said he will have democrats in his administration. How’d Norman Maneta work out for us?


8 posted on 05/16/2008 9:48:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
I'll break it down on the one issue conservatives have the biggest gripe with, Amnesty for Illegals.

Like it or not, (and I don't), we have some 20 million or so illegal migrants living and working in America today, and more on the way.

Democrats, including Obama and Clinton, see no need for borders at all because they oppose the very concept of national sovereignty to begin with. They are global community socialists, plain and simple. Under their administration, all of them will be rubber stamped, just as Clinton did twice during his term, and 20 million will become 60 million within 24 months, all of them with voting rights and a DNC membership.

These 20 million illegal aliens fill some 10 million or so low end unskilled jobs that must be done in every nation. We only have about 6 million legal Americans currently on unemployment, most of them unemployable. So who is going to fill those 10 million jobs?

Some form of amnesty for those already here and some reform in the system that allows others to come WILL happen no matter who is elected. If Obama or Clinton are elected, the borders will be completely erased. McCain will pass some form sooner or later, but it is not likely to be a form that eliminated national sovereignty.

McCain knows this... even though many conservatives pretend that there is some other viable solution. So, he tries to advance a plan less damaging than that of the Democrats.

This issue will lose him some ill-informed conservative votes, but yes, it will gain him many moderate votes, which will allow him to stop Democrats from erasing the borders entirely.

Just how I see it...

He will move right on some things after the election, and remain left on others. His recent move on the Global Warming Scam is nothing more than vote pandering. He is not Al Gore...

9 posted on 05/16/2008 10:04:20 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: navyguy

You will enjoy a president far left of McCain then.


10 posted on 05/16/2008 10:05:07 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The term "maverick" - as I understand it - originated when a steer didn't run with the herd, but goes off on his own.

That, as it may be, is fine...but the maverick steer doesn't run off and join up with a wolf pack.

Juan McStain prefers to leave his conservative herd and run with the dem wolves about 80% of the time...that's not a "maverick", it's a "traitor".

All that being said, I still think with the choices we have been handed this go-around, he'll probably leave less to fix after 4 years.
11 posted on 05/16/2008 10:17:06 AM PDT by FrankR (OBAMA is the VAST WRIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY...)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
I would think it is quite possible he will move rightward a bit once he is elected. After all, his Senate record shows a 70% plus conservative voting. Of course, I worry about some of his lefty votes are like lightnings from a nice blue sky!

The pick of his cabinet will be the key. We need to make certain that a sufficient number of OUR conversative people are selected to fill the spots plus conversative advisors.

Support along those lines ought to give anybody to the left of Atilla the Hun second thoughts about actually voting for Senator McCain in November.

12 posted on 05/16/2008 10:25:12 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: PlainOleAmerican

When American voters think of the term “maverick,” they often think of Senator John McCain because McCain has spent decades stabbing his party in the back.


13 posted on 05/16/2008 10:29:25 AM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: FrankR
“he'll probably leave less to fix after 4 years.”

I'm certain that this is true, as he is really across the aisle only about 30% of the time.

And I also believe the Obama or Clinton could do irreparable damage.

14 posted on 05/16/2008 10:30:53 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Grunthor

Yep...

Do you prefer to see it coming from the front in spades?


15 posted on 05/16/2008 10:32:09 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I do prefer to see it coming.


16 posted on 05/16/2008 10:33:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: Grunthor

Then vote for Obama. You will be left completely defenseless on 110% of your issues, but at least you will see it coming.


17 posted on 05/16/2008 10:37:34 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Senator McCain has supported President Bush’s war policies 100%. McCain makes a totally bogus argument in styling himself a so-called “maverick” regarding foreign policy. It is surprising that the press has let McCain get away with his “maverick” b.s. for so long.


18 posted on 05/16/2008 10:52:31 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom
Both Clinton and McCain supported pretty much 100% of Bush's national security decisions, as did the vast majority of congress on both sides of the aisle. That's because Bush was either right or erring on the side of caution in each of those decisions.

Obambi was still in diapers when all of those tough choices were made. So he's the only one who can claim to have opposed those decision, albeit unofficially, since he was in diapers when they were made.

19 posted on 05/16/2008 11:36:16 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“You will enjoy a president far left of McCain then.”

The GOP ‘leadership’ is leading the charge on exactly that right now. Its time to push the reset button on the GOP.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 1:20:19 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: navyguy

Idiot’s tried that in 1992 and 1996. Ross Perot was the “reset button” of the 90’s and eight years of Bill Clinton was the result.

In 2006, idiot’s thought they would hit the “reset button” again by removing Republicans from office and placing Democrats back in charge.

Since then, in just one year. Remember the election in 2006? Thought you might like to read the following:

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember, it’s Congress that makes law not the President.
He has to work with what’s handed to him.

Quote of the Day........’My friends, we live in the greatest nation
in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try
to change it.’ — Barack Obama

Part 2

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these
statistics enlightening and amazing.

www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton Taxes under Bush 2008

Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above
think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest
President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they
will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that
fall into the categories above can’t wait for it to happen. This is
like the movie, The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of
some money and they don’t even know what happened.

PART 3

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda
that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.
I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again
until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of
reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of all
the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to
illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for
the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem
in the US.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal
aliens that crossed our Southern Border; also, as many as 19,500
illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of
drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S
from the Southern border.
Verify at:
Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost
of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an
average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year
period.’
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin.
Verify at:
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.’
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
Are we THAT stupid?
If this doesn’t bother you then just delete the message.

If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck,
I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every
representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long
as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our
policies and enforcement thereof.

April 15, 2008 has just passed. I hope you paid your taxes !
( Millions of illegal aliens depend upon you ! )

When idiot’s hit the “reset button” again in 2008, Muslim Racist Radical Socialist Barack Obama will become the first half-black all-anti-white and anti-American president of the United States.

The borders will be erased completely, 20 million illegal aliens will be rubber stamped, given voting rights and membership in the DNC, along with 40 million of their family members currently living in Mexico.

The war on terror will be moved from the central front in Iraq to main street USA, which will look more like the Gaza Strip than Broadway and 5th by the mid-term elections in 2010, when Democratic Socialists will outnumber Americans by more than 3 to 1.

The top tax rates will return to the 95% of earnings set by Democrats in the past and reversed by Reagan. But only for “rich folks” like you, making more than $30,000 per year.

The dollar will be replaced by the Amero because the dollar will be worth less than a peso. Jimmy Carter era gas lines will return, even though gasoline will be more than $6.00 a gallon.

I can keep going, but you will never get it, will you....

By all means, hit that “reset button” one last time!


21 posted on 05/16/2008 2:29:03 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

bump—


22 posted on 05/16/2008 2:34:32 PM PDT by LexRex in TN
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Your thoughts?

McCain's record.

23 posted on 05/16/2008 2:35:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
His recent move on the Global Warming Scam is nothing more than vote pandering.

Not really. McCain has been deeply dedicated to "solving" Glowbull Warming for quite some time. Algore should be green with envy to have such a substantive record.

McCain planning climate change tour

McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)

The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)

Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)

McCain: Global warming is fact, must be addressed [hurl alert]

McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming (NH voter reminder ALERT

EIA's Analysis of the Lieberman-McCain Climate Change Bill Human Events

McCain's Nose-Under-the-Tent Strategy - McCain's "Climate Stewardship Act" (S. 139), co-sponsored with Senator Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)

Kyoto Through the Back Door? A Debate on the Lieberman –McCain Climate Stewardship Act - Heritage Foundation

Promising Vote on Global Warming - "But Mr. McCain, as we know, does not give up easily. ... He promises to be just as tenacious on this issue."

24 posted on 05/16/2008 2:38:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
I am OFF the reservation.
Done.
25 posted on 05/16/2008 2:44:13 PM PDT by Voter#537 (We must make sure our Brave Military gets the support to Win This WAR. Not another Viet Nam.)
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To: Voter#537

New tag Line


26 posted on 05/16/2008 2:45:43 PM PDT by Voter#537 (GOP- You Left Me.)
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To: Voter#537

My New Name will be Voter#00000000000000


27 posted on 05/16/2008 2:49:20 PM PDT by Voter#537 (GOP- You Left Me.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I’ll ignore your insulting tone and name calling.

The list of changes at the bottom of your post are going to happen with the current GOP because half of the current GOP is actually pushing for those things. That’s the half that needs to be reset.


28 posted on 05/16/2008 3:42:44 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: TigersEye

And McCain has had his eye’s set on the Oval Office for how many years?

Gore should practice what he preaches.... or better yet, shut up and die.


29 posted on 05/16/2008 4:46:41 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: navyguy

Simply not so, but continuing to spread that set of lies will give you what you want, the entire list under Obama.

I just wish you would stop pretending to be conservative and tell people the truth. You are for Obama.


30 posted on 05/16/2008 4:48:36 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Your rebuttal is that McCain has been pandering for ten years?

I guess you do have to play to your base. /s

31 posted on 05/16/2008 5:16:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye
Or more...

He was snubbed when he lost to Bush in 2000. That was eight years ago. He has wanted to be president since long before that. So yeah, he's been pandering to the middle for a very long time.

That's not so much a rebuttal as it is a fact.

32 posted on 05/16/2008 7:41:28 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

(scratching my head) OK. : )


33 posted on 05/16/2008 7:45:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“I just wish you would stop pretending to be conservative and tell people the truth. You are for Obama.”

You couldn’t possibly make a more deranged comment.


34 posted on 05/17/2008 9:34:08 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: navyguy

A more accurate comment, you mean...?

One of three people will be president for the next four years.

It doesn’t look like it’s going to be Hillary Clinton, who is pretty well finished in the DNC nomination process.

That leaves Obama or McCain, and since you are dead set against McCain, that leaves ONLY Obama. You are therefore, supporting Obama, even if by default, just as Ross Perot supporters assisted in the election of Bill Clinton, twice.

You are supporting Obama. I can’t help that you are too foolish to know it or too scared to admit it.


35 posted on 05/17/2008 3:38:38 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I never said I was dead set against McCain. In fact, I never mentioned him at all. I commented on the GOP and our so called Republicans in Washington DC. Nor did I say I supported voting for a 3rd party candidate (a la Ross Perot), but you assumed that’s what I meant. The bottom line here is you completely misunderstood my comments and read things into them that aren’t there.

Furthermore, your political syllogism that alleges that I automatically support Obama by dint of my criticism of the GOP is ridiculous on the face of it. I don’t support some of McCains positions, but that doesn’t mean I DO support Obama’s positions on those issues. That’s a completely false conclusion and it cannot be derived from any of my statements.

I will vote for McCain (I never said I wouldn’t) because he’s certainly far better than Obama or any other neo-socialist on the Left, but I do take issue with some of his positions.

You need basic training in logic and critical thinking skills. But I’m happy to continue educating you if you insist on showing the need for it.


36 posted on 05/17/2008 6:52:35 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Instead, too many Republicans have sold out the basic party principles of individual freedom and liberty for the same greater communal good offered by Democratic Socialists and as a result, Republicans find themselves in a free-fall from power, losing election after election to Democrat candidates smart enough to run to the right of Republicans on the issues, even though they will caucus with Democrats after the election.

Sounds a bit like...

"Those who sell their liberty for security are understandable, if pitiable, creatures. Those who sell the liberty of others for wealth, power, or even a moment’s respite, deserve only the end of a rope... America’s historic misfortune is that her people have seldom been equal to the ideals upon which their nation was established. "— L. Neil Smith, The American Zone (2001)

And I agree whole heartedly...

37 posted on 05/17/2008 6:58:30 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
1. Gang of Fourteen (Kept some of President Bush’s best judges from being presented for a vote) See here and here
2. McCain-Fiengold (Assault on Free Speech and Pro-Life
3. McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty for criminal Illegal Aliens)
4. McCain-Lieberman (50 cents a gallon tax)
5. Total support for global warming scam, including the Carbon Cap-and-Trade system. See Here
6. Support for embryonic stem cell research (Murder of unborn babies).
7. Wants to close Gitmo and give Terrorists access to our legal system.
8. F grade from Gun-Owners of America.
9. C grade from NRA.
10. 65% score from American Conservative Union in 2006
11. Wants to bail out sub-prime losers (many of which are either illegal aliens or lied on thier applications) with US tax money.
12. Voted against President Bush’s tax cuts (called them tax-cuts for the rich)
13. Flirted with the idea of crossing over to the Dems in 2004.
14. Wants to implement a socialist Health Care proposal that includes providing tax-coffer monies (your tax dollars) to the states to provide Health Care Insurance for those who either refuse to pay for it, or are unable to afford it (mostly illegal aliens).
15. Divorced his wife after he got back from Vietnam. The same woman who remained true to him and raised his kids while he was imprisoned.
16. Refuses to drill in ANWR. See here and here
17. Agrees with Democrats that our Foreign Policy has been arrogant and we need to be more humble.
18. Thinks and states that Pharmaceutical companies are evil
19. Has accepted funding from Soros and Teresa Heinz-Kerry for his institute
20. John McCain's Top 10 Class-Warfare Arguments Against Tax Cuts
21 "I think the Democrat Party is a fine and I have no problems with it, in their views and philosophy"
22. Strongly against Same Sex Marriage Ban Constitutional Amendment
23. Voted for Pro-Abortion Bill and Here.
24. Voted against bill that would impose sanctions against foreign governments and companies that invest more than $20 million in Iran's energy sector until the president certified to Congress that Iran had dismantled its weapons of mass destruction Here and Here
25. Voted against repealing the death tax.
26. McCain-Edwards-Kennedy    (Many Democrat inspired bad rules included in this monstrosity)

*List borrowed from FReeper SoConPubbie. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2012279/posts?page=92

38 posted on 05/17/2008 7:01:52 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: navyguy

You need training in honesty 101. You seem well versed in “liberal nuance 101.”

Why don’t you say what you mean?

Your comments have been 1000% anti-GOP. Where are your anti-DNC or anti-Obama statements?

You take aim only at the GOP and think anyone will interpret that position as pro-GOP?

Be direct and specific, stop hiding behind childish rhetoric. Now that you have whined about the GOP, what are your intentions? To beat up the GOP and drive other voters away from the party, while you intend to step into to booth and vote for the GOP? Are you just parroting others to sound conservative?

Or, you support Obama and spend all your time attacking his opponents while hoping to convince others that you oppose the only guy you are NOT attacking?

You have nothing to teach navy... but much to learn. You sound like other liberals who think they are “supporting the troops” by undermining their every mission.

You are “supporting McCain” by undermining his campaign?

You are fool or fraud. Which is it?


39 posted on 05/18/2008 6:51:54 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Your interpretation of my comments is completely irrelevant to me.

The rest of your post is semi-literate drivel, demonstrating your continued reading comprehension problem.

If you want to have a pissing war take it to private mail and I’ll happily skewer your ignorant posts line my line. Otherwise, if you have any self respect, let it go.


40 posted on 05/18/2008 10:00:25 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: navyguy
In other words, you're in checkmate...

If you can skewer my assertions, by all means, do it publicly, where you started this battle.

Of course, working to undermine anything can never be described as a means of supporting that thing.

So, good luck! I'm sick and tired of blow-hards undermining the very causes they pretend to support and hiding beneath the guise of honorable dissent.

There will be no honor in seating Barack Obama in the Oval Office, none... And anyone who helps that cause will have no honor either.

Good day!

41 posted on 05/19/2008 7:42:32 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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