Dilbert did a series on this where Dogbert came up with the new corporate logo by putting his coffee cup down on a piece of paper.
Posted on 05/16/2008 11:46:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
SAN JOSE, Calif. - After running one of Silicon Valley's powerhouse companies for six years, Carly Fiorina now has her sights set on the White House.
Not for her — not yet, at least. But for John McCain.
Fiorina, 53, joined the Republican senator's presidential campaign this spring. She brings with her a long list of wealthy friends and supporters and intimate insight into how some of the largest corporations work, having been at the helm of Hewlett-Packard Co. and before that, senior management at AT&T Inc. and its spinoff Lucent Technologies.
While the new gig is her first in politics, her name already has been tossed around as a possible vice presidential running mate. McCain has said he's not as strong on economics as he is on national security, so he needs accomplished business leaders, like Fiorina, advising him.
But Fiorina's resume isn't without its blemishes, and some observers have been merciless about her performance at HP. They also say her lack of a public policy record will be hard to overcome as she travels the country on behalf of McCain.
"She almost destroyed one of the nation's great corporate treasures — she made a mess of HP, she made it an extraordinarily unpleasant place to work," said Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, a professor at the Yale School of Management and longtime critic of Fiorina's. "She represents sizzle over steak and style over substance — that would damage the integrity and credibility of the McCain campaign."
Fiorina became chief executive of Palo Alto-based HP in 1999 after spending nearly two decades at AT&T Inc., where she made a star turn as a fast-rising saleswoman, and Lucent Technologies, where she directed the initial public offering of stock and spinoff from AT&T.
At HP, she was known as a divisive manager, who made sweeping moves to try and wrestle the technology icon into the Internet age.
But she also used charm and diplomacy to push through one of her biggest achievements there: engineering HP's $24 billion acquisition of Compaq Computer. The deal was bitterly contested by descendants of HP's founders but squeaked by 51 percent to 49 percent in a contentious proxy battle.
But Fiorina was pushed out of HP in 2005 over the computer and printer maker's spotty financial performance that hurt the stock — which sank 56 percent on her watch — and impatience by investors who were tired of waiting for her changes to pay off.
Some say Fiorina may have simply been out of her element at HP, as someone whose focus on marketing and branding made her an odd fit in HP's hardcore techie culture.
She drew snickers from some longtime HPers for the company's decision in 2004 to sell HP-branded iPods. The idea was to liven up the company's staid image, but HP abandoned the initiative the following year.
She's always been candid that her background is nontechnical: a Stanford University undergrad in medieval history and philosophy, she went on to earn master's degrees in management from the University of Maryland and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Fiorina, uncharacteristically dynamic for a Silicon Valley CEO, was also criticized for her own celebrity appeal, a perception that made her stand out against the low-key images of many other valley chief executives.
Still, supporters say Fiorina has been vindicated by HP's success since her firing. They argue the changes she made ultimately helped a hidebound HP and demonstrated a decisiveness and willingness to take risks that could work to her advantage in politics. They also say her leadership in the Compaq merger showed deft political maneuvering that could foreshadow how she would approach political office.
"There's an inside-the-valley perception (about Fiorina), but those are not necessarily things that would hurt her outside the valley," said Mozelle Thompson, the former commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission who oversaw the agency's antitrust review of HP and Compaq merger.
"To the extent that some people may not view Carly Fiorina as shy and retiring, she would fit in really well in Washington."
She's also a well-known business figure who will help McCain win voters and donors, particularly in deep-pocketed Silicon Valley. McCain has also recruited Cisco Systems Inc. Chief Executive John Chambers and former eBay Inc. Chief Executive Meg Whitman. They are on McCain's national finance committee.
"Carly is in many respects very appealing to the California electorate — it's hard to put her in a box," said Boris Feldman, a partner at the Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati law firm who worked with Fiorina on a court case challenging the HP-Compaq merger and has raised money for the McCain campaign.
Fiorina says there are many parallels to politics and running a company. With more than 150,000 employees when Fiorina was fired, running HP could be compared to being mayor of a medium-sized city like Syracuse, N.Y.
"My leadership at HP has been completely validated by the results HP posted the day after I was fired until today," Fiorina said in a recent interview. "Leadership is about making tough choices, and I think I recognize that in others. That's what attracts me to John McCain — he's a leader."
HP recently cracked $100 billion in annual sales for the first time, and has recaptured the title of the world's No. 1 personal computer seller from Dell Inc., an achievement helped by the addition of Compaq and the operational changes made under the new chief executive, Mark Hurd.
"HP hasn't looked so bad since she left — it was a little stain on her reputation in that she wasn't as successful as she wanted to be, but she's still pretty damn successful," said David Brady, professor of political science and leadership values at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.
"Presidential elections are different from internal battles with the old family (at HP). A lot of time's passed since then. I don't see it as a problem."
Fiorina, who splits her time between her homes in Silicon Valley and Washington with her husband, Frank, is quiet on the topic of her political aspirations.
Right now, Fiorina says her priority is helping get the candidate's message out.
"I remember what it feels like to be a secretary and the challenges of working people," Fiorina said. "I understand how you create jobs, I understand why jobs leave, I understand how business works, I think I understand how the economy works. I think all of those perspectives are valuable."
“She almost destroyed one of the nation’s great corporate treasures — she made a mess of HP, she made it an extraordinarily unpleasant place to work,” said Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, a professor at the Yale School of Management and longtime critic of Fiorina’s.”
A prof, who probably hasn’t been in the business world in years if ever, doesn’t carry much weight with me.
God forbid he should surround himself with people who have been successful.
I wouldn’t trust her with a 3-minute egg.
If elected, McCain will have an absolute gift for picking klutzes and losers for his cabinet positions. I’ve commented on Carly Fiorina before, and have little to add to what some of those interviewed say here.
McCain isn’t very bright, among his other faults. He makes Bush look like a mental giant in comparison. You don’t have to be really bright to be president, if you are sensible. McCain lacks that, too. Bush made it through college with a Gentleman’s C. McCain would have been flunked out without his father’s pull.
Carly was like a hurricane, leaving devestation in her wake everywhere she went. Just another nail in McCain’s coffin.
Oh yeah,, a Justice Lindsay Graham comes to mind too.
Not to worry,, Both parties have institutes studying just that question... and grooming the next batch ..
Oh joy. And the Pubs wonder why they are in trouble.
Of course, in those days it required more than merely regular attendance to get a degree.
And that's if we are lucky.
Bush has a Harvard MBA.
My uncle worked for HP during Carly's time there (and a long time before it as well). He had a very negative opinion of Carly.
Do you have a MBA from Harvard?
“Fiorina, 53, joined the Republican senator’s presidential campaign this spring”.
...this is where I stopped reading. Obviously the writer is going to pack the article with falsehoods similar to McCain being a Pub.
After running one of Silicon Valley’s powerhouse companies INTO THE GROUND for six years........There, fixed it.......are you sure she ain’t being considered for FBI/CIA Director instead?.............
And about 95% of the students in my MBA class scored higher than him on the GMAT (or GRE, whichever it was).
I cannot even remember what I scored on the GMAT. I am sure the GMAT in 1974 was not the GMAT of 2008.
I have a very negative opinion of Carly. I thought I had made that clear, but maybe not. She was the ultimate affirmative action boss.
Dilbert did a series on this where Dogbert came up with the new corporate logo by putting his coffee cup down on a piece of paper.
He must have a different idea of "accomplishment" than I do.
It was not called a gentleman’s C for nothing. Perfectly respectable.
These days, with grade inflation, it would be a gentleman’s B—if we had any gentlemen of the old school left.
Gore had a C-/D, and clinton flunked out of Oxford.
Bhwahahahah. If HP was a City, Fiorina would be Mayor Ray Nagin.
Really? I remember exactly what I scored on the GRE in 1976 (not outstanding, but above the median in my entering grad school class). Always puzzled me how the median score could be in the low 90s percentile but it was. My girlfriend blew me and almost everyone else in the class away on the GRE — I could barely follow along as she was doing sample test questions and explaining what she was doing! In any event, the aptitude tests over time no doubt have pretty good longitudinal reliability, in terms of ranking test takers.
Personally, I'd rather not have a blind man in the White House, even if it is willful blindess.
It's amazing how one word can change the entire meaning of a sentence... *cough*
I had a neighbor that worked for a division of AT&T. He had nothing good to say about Fiorina either.
It sure has been doing well since they dumped her.
I barely remember taking the GMAT. I can’t for the life of me, remember what they asked about. And that was roughly in 1989, maybe 1990.
I’m not necessarily defending her, however HP wasn’t really in all that good a shape when she came in.
I was thinking FEMA Director. Or maybe BATFE. ;)
I had the assistant dean for an intro class back in 1976. He met with all the project groups, and he said then, a "Gentleman's C" wasn't what it used to be.
But this was engineering.
That statement was made as a vision of where we would be after four years of a McCain administration, wasn't it?
(I don't much believe it, either way)
Personally, I'd rather not have a blind man in the White House, even if it is willful blindess.
I'd also like to not see Carly Fiorina anywhere in Govenrment. She's done enough damage for one lifetime.
If you have time look: HERE.
She was, and is, an outstanding successful executive. Getting fired by the relatives of the founder of the company is not a black mark when the reason for the firing proved without merit.
Full disclosure: I bought and sold HPQ at a considerable profit.
He happens to be correct in his assessment, however.
Perhaps that's correct, yet begs the question - what does it mean to him to have the border "under control"?
And yes, that woman has no place in the White House. I suspect he's just trying to appear 'with-it' and 'not-sexist' by having her there - in other words, she's there because she's a woman, kinda like B. Hussein is only there because he's black (even though he's only 4% black and 42% Arab, but I digress).
Mighty impressive! I'm sure the long term investor is really pleased with that performance. /s
Here's a better HPQ chart -- one that shows what happened under her watch.
Doncha know? He'd have the "border state governors" "Certify" that the borders are secure. You know--kinda like when Arnold tells Californians the budget is "balanced."
I'm sure we can rely on Richardson, Perry, Napolitano and Arnold to do the right thing. /s
And yes, that woman has no place in the White House. I suspect he's just trying to appear 'with-it' and 'not-sexist' by having her there - in other words, she's there because she's a woman...
The GOP has a destructive streak--they don't think they can sell ideas and favor "celebrity" candidates these days. Unfortunately, Carly is a self-promoting disaster. There are plenty of good women out there but somehow they'd probably choose Martha Stewart before lifting a finger to go out and actually recruit some qualified folks that believe in conservatism and/or the Republican platform.
Luckily the Dept of Commerce is less important than a 3-minute egg.
Just what we need, another bachelor on the court...
We need a sane and intelligent President today more than ever, but what sane and intelligent person would want to?
My new slogan:
In an 10 October 2007 article in Daily Variety, it was reported that Fiorina had signed with Fox Business Network to become a frequent business commentator on the newly-formed cable network, intended to be a competitor to the CNBC cable network.[29]
Fiorina holds positions on the board of trustees of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum. She is an Honorary Fellow of the London Business School.[30]
In early September 2005, Fiorina was named a director at Revolution Health Group, a venture formed by Steve Case.[31] In October 2005, Fiorina joined the board of computer security company Cybertrust.[32] In April 2006, Fiorina joined the board of directors for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. Fiorina is an independent Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company board member and serves on the audit and compensation committees.
PS: Buy when no one wants and sell when everyone wants. 2000-2001 the Dotcoms and techs soared and then crashed. Bought anytime in 2005, this has been an outstanding investment.
Fiorina. Better than Ken Lay!
;-)
I hear ya! I didn't mean to get ya riled up but thought you would "appreciate" this thread, so to speak.
The propaganda machine is a wondrous thing!
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