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Texas officials sue US over border fence
AP via SFGate ^ | 5/16/8 | SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 05/16/2008 11:51:32 AM PDT by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Texas mayors and business leaders filed a class-action lawsuit Friday alleging Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff hoodwinked landowners into waiving their property rights for construction of a fence along the Mexican border.

Members of the Texas Border Coalition said Chertoff did not fairly negotiate compensation with landowners for access to their land for six-month surveys to choose fence sites. The coalition of mayors and business and community leaders is seeking an injunction to block work on the fence.

They also want a federal judge to rescind all the agreements with landowners and to order Chertoff to start again. The department has sought and won access from hundreds of landowners to determine where to build the fence and other barriers to illegal border crossings.

The coalition's attorney, Peter Schey, said Chertoff violated a 1996 immigration law that requires fair negotiation with landowners.

The lawsuit also names Robert Janson, director of Asset Management at U.S. Customs and Border Protection, as a defendant.

It was filed with U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton, a Bush nominee who presided in the criminal case of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff.

"They hoodwinked property owners" into waiving their property rights, Schey said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchor; are; attacking; border; fence; illegals; immigrantlist; malcontent; mexisymps; whiners

1 posted on 05/16/2008 11:51:32 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I thought Texas a a big illegal immigration problem? What’s up with this?


2 posted on 05/16/2008 11:53:58 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland
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To: SmithL

What BS. If the issue was simply not enough compensation was paid, sue for more.-but to sue to STOP building the wall is crap.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 11:55:44 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

“What BS. If the issue was simply not enough compensation was paid, sue for more.-but to sue to STOP building the wall is crap.”

I can’t think of a better use for eminent domain.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 11:56:42 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: SmithL

If I were them, I’d be more pissed off they haven’t FINISHED the thing! And that they can’t defend themselves from those dangerous smugglers!


5 posted on 05/16/2008 11:56:42 AM PDT by republicanequestrian
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To: SmithL

Maybe they should build the fence on the other side of their property instead.


6 posted on 05/16/2008 11:58:23 AM PDT by Gil4
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To: SmithL

Stop all the BS! Build the Effin’ fence!!!!


7 posted on 05/16/2008 12:00:00 PM PDT by Old Phone Man (ks)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
What’s up with this?

My guess is the landowners think they can get more money out of it.

8 posted on 05/16/2008 12:00:32 PM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: icwhatudo

Yes, but the objective is to stop building the wall, not get more compensation . . . this lawsuit is a direct result of Chertoff’s move to waive all those environmental (and other) regulations that were in the way.


9 posted on 05/16/2008 12:00:52 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: icwhatudo
There a simple solution.

If a property owner doesn't want the fence on their southern property line then don't build it there.
Go to the property owner to their north and ask to build it on their southern property line.
It's each property owners choice which side of the fence they're on.

10 posted on 05/16/2008 12:01:08 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: SmithL
What BS, jerkoff is not going to build in fence in Texas, this is to try and cover up for Hutchison killing the fence.
11 posted on 05/16/2008 12:01:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

In a capitalist system, profit is the ultimate value. Patriotism is nice, but if patriotism cuts into profit it will be dispensed with. That’s called “free trade”.


12 posted on 05/16/2008 12:04:49 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland; airborne

This is all about border residents (i.e. legal and illegal Mexican immigrants) preventing the fence from being built and maintaining the freeflow of people, money, and drugs across the border. Not to mention the freebies their family members can get here. Nothing can stop their gravy train.

If this case holds, we are not getting equal representation under the law. The border “votes” will be worth more than ours. We are being held hostage by a violent and dangerous minority.


13 posted on 05/16/2008 12:05:52 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: SmithL

The problem is this: those border communities are already Mexico, even the ones north of the border. They’re not really Americans; they’ve colonized those parts of Texas.

Of course they’re going to squeal about the loss of thier colonies.


14 posted on 05/16/2008 12:07:06 PM PDT by Scourge of God (Pretty Stupid, Evil Stupid, or Old Stupid -- is this the best our country can find for President?)
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To: SmithL

The problem is this: those border communities are already Mexico, even the ones north of the border. They’re not really Americans; they’ve colonized those parts of Texas.

Of course they’re going to squeal about the loss of thier colonies.


15 posted on 05/16/2008 12:07:15 PM PDT by Scourge of God (Pretty Stupid, Evil Stupid, or Old Stupid -- is this the best our country can find for President?)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland; SmithL
thought Texas a a big illegal immigration problem? What’s up with this?

I'll give you a hint. The mayors and buisiness leaders aren't from Dallas or Houston. They're right along the border.

16 posted on 05/16/2008 12:07:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Gil4

ROFLMTO...that is hilarious. Maybe they got paid from elswhere to prevent the fence from being built with lawsuits against this administration. We need to hear from landowners what they really are saying is wrong?? Anyone interview them yet? Somebody get a microphone in TX and let’s get the real scoop? Do we have any TX journalists on FR?


17 posted on 05/16/2008 12:08:07 PM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: SmithL

I hope everyone is clear what all the hub bub is about.

All the Feds wanted to do was go on the properties to do a survey, to find the best place to put the wall. Owners often grant this right for no compensation, since the access is temporary and there is no damage to property. It sounds like many owners were offered $100 for this temporary right to survey.

The pro-illegal camp is making it sound like these owners were raped by the government and their land is being taken with no compensation.

Audacious stall tactics to prevent the wall from being built. A gullible and sympathetic press plays along.


18 posted on 05/16/2008 12:10:27 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Slapshot68

Our government is broken and our world gone mad.


19 posted on 05/16/2008 12:15:05 PM PDT by henkster (Obama '08: A 3rd world state, here & now!)
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To: SmithL

Does the term “hoodwinked” need to be used twice in this article?

How about “bamboozled”?


20 posted on 05/16/2008 12:23:31 PM PDT by dr.zaeus
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To: icwhatudo
“What BS. If the issue was simply not enough compensation was paid, sue for more.-but to sue to STOP building the wall is crap.”

If you had ever dealt with the Federal Government you would know that waiting till the wall is built is to say they are screwing you over is a sure fire way to get screwed over by the government which screws more people every year than all the prostitutes in the world combined. Only when the Feds do it, it isn't nearly as much fun. If they can manage to stop the wall, then they might get a shot at fair compansation, but once the wall is built, forget it.

21 posted on 05/16/2008 12:40:42 PM PDT by monday
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To: SmithL

I don’t know what’s going on with this country.


22 posted on 05/16/2008 12:53:54 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: SmithL
Texas mayors and business leaders filed a class-action lawsuit Friday alleging Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff hoodwinked landowners into waiving their property rights for construction of a fence along the Mexican border.

Is this the same Michael Chertoff who, along with President Bush, gets trashed on here ad nauseum by the Mike Savage loonies who say the administration isn't doing something to secure the borders? Some people just wont let facts get in the way of a good rage.

23 posted on 05/16/2008 12:57:25 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: org.whodat
Oh, good grief... that is an outlandish charge, please quit manufacturing conspiracies where none exist.

Chertoff finally put his foot down and was being aggressive on this issue and the damned activists are fighting him every step of the way to prevent the fence from being built. Another thread was just posted where the activists have sued him over an illegal immigration raid as well. I suppose that is somehow a super secret conspiracy by him too?

I do understand your frustration, but get a grip already, you are beginning to sound like the moonbats with their BDS and it isn't becoming. Your energy would be better spent writing Congress and protesting than making up these wild accusations that have no basis in fact.

24 posted on 05/16/2008 1:00:56 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: SmithL
TBC website

TBC Complaint(PDF)

The driving force appears to be The Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law. TBC's website has interesting sponsorship as well.

25 posted on 05/16/2008 1:11:59 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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"U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen has already deliberated on and ruled against many of the same arguments Schey makes in the proposed class-action lawsuit." Link
26 posted on 05/16/2008 1:29:39 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Tex Pete

“If this case holds, we are not getting equal representation under the law. The border “votes” will be worth more than ours. We are being held hostage by a violent and dangerous minority.”

Absolutely. Aliens already have more representation and rights than we do. We execute USA citizens, but withhold the death penalty from Mexicans too keep the regime down there happy. The law doesn’t even bother with ID theft by aliens unless they’re selling documents to thousands. What do you suppose would happen to you and I if we used someone else’s social sec # , etc?


27 posted on 05/16/2008 1:47:22 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: SmithL; HiJinx; All

“The coalition’s attorney, Peter Schey,”

He’s quite a piece of work...

L.A. lawyer Peter Schey ruining America by helping hordes of illegal immigrants stay here.
Originally published by New Times L.A. Jun 20, 2002 ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/705251/posts

[snip]One of the nation’s preeminent immigration attorneys, Schey has helped more than 1 million illegal immigrants become American citizens. He was one of the first lawyers in the country to bring class-action lawsuits against the Immigration and Naturalization Service on behalf of illegals. He successfully led the fight against Proposition 187....
.. His work has affected millions of people.”

Schey is part of the reason that the multicultural faces of Los Angeles and other big cities around the country look the way they do. He was one of two attorneys who helped win political asylum for 30,000 Salvadorans who fled the U.S.....


28 posted on 05/16/2008 1:51:48 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


29 posted on 05/16/2008 2:01:01 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Good deal...thanks for the info, hopefully they will throw this lawsuit out.


30 posted on 05/16/2008 2:11:27 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: SmithL; DeLaVerdad; YourAdHere; Be_Politically_Erect; Ultimatum; Sterco; Paige; Tennessee_Bob; ...

Access ping!

Who is hoodwinking who here?


31 posted on 05/16/2008 2:15:43 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: ravingnutter
Jerkoff issue about 430 miles of exemptions for Texas fence, the rest is decoration. I can prove what I say, but you cannot. So you get a grip.
32 posted on 05/16/2008 4:43:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ravingnutter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1937685/posts?page=1


33 posted on 05/16/2008 4:47:10 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ravingnutter

http://www.lmtonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18639137&BRD=2290&PAG=461&dept_id=569392&rfi=6


34 posted on 05/16/2008 4:48:16 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ravingnutter

http://www.lmtonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18639137&BRD=2290&PAG=461&dept_id=569392&rfi=6


35 posted on 05/16/2008 4:50:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ravingnutter

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/highlights/dhs_waiver/hidalgo_pjt_area.xml


36 posted on 05/16/2008 4:51:59 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ravingnutter

http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/index.php/2008/04/01/a-fools-folly-chertoffs-mega-waiver/


37 posted on 05/16/2008 4:52:50 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: SmithL

Business owners suing? Gee, maybe they are unhappy that they might not get to illegally employee illegal aliens. That gravy train is over, or should be.


38 posted on 05/16/2008 5:09:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Texas can solve this problem by means of enosis with Mexico.


39 posted on 05/16/2008 6:27:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
I thought Texas a a big illegal immigration problem? What’s up with this?

Many local elected officials in Texas profit from the criminal activity as do the unscrupulous businesses that hire illegal aliens. There are also landowners on the border who profit greatly from aiding the smugglers and harboring the criminals. There is considerable overlap of these groups; an unscrupulous land owner might also be a criminal employer or a political hack.

The suit is an attempt by the pro-criminal axis to protect the invasion and the criminal activity quite a few of them are engaged in.

40 posted on 05/17/2008 2:49:03 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: ravingnutter
Oh good grif: Real fence real guards. Beyond the abilities of jerkoff:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2017207/posts?page=4

41 posted on 05/17/2008 7:12:41 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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