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Bush: Deal on Palestinian state before 2009
ynetnews.com ^ | Published: 05.17.08, 18:32 / Israel News | ynetnews.com, AP, Reuters

Posted on 05/17/2008 1:10:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle

US president presses on with Mideast tour, meets with Egypt's Mubarak in Sham el-Sheikh. Due to speak at World Economic Forum on Sunday, Bush says he will outline vision for reaching agreement on future Palestinian state while still in office

US President George W. Bush said on Saturday he remained confident a deal on Palestinian statehood could be achieved before he leaves office, as he sought to ease Arab doubts about his commitment to even-handed peacemaking.

In the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh for the final stop of his Middle East tour, Bush faces growing skepticism over his chances of securing an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal before he leaves office in January.

"It breaks my heart to see the vast potential of the Palestinian people, really, wasted," Bush said at the side of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. "It would be an opportunity to end the suffering that takes place in the Palestinian territories."

Bush and Abbas met for nearly an hour before speaking briefly to reporters. They then strolled back inside, holding hands as they walked slowly down a bouganveilla-lined path, for a private dinner. Abbas glowingly praised Bush's dedication to the talks, launched between the two sides in November for the first time in seven years, and the goal of state defined for Palestinians by the end of Bush's term.

"We know very well that you personally, as well as your administration, are committed to reach peace before the end of 2008," Abbas said. ''We are working very seriously and very aggressively with the hope that we will be able to achieve this objective.''

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, in a private meeting with Bush, sought reassurances that the US president was firmly committed to the peace process and would work hard toward the goal of a Palestinian state.

"In my speech tomorrow I'll make it clear that I believe that we can get a state defined by the end of my presidency, and we'll work hard to achieve that objective," said Bush, who is due to address the World Economic Forum on Sunday.

Standing next to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, with their backs to the Red Sea, Bush sought to ease Arab concerns that Palestinians were slighted during his three-day visit to Jerusalem.

Bush said he had spoken with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and other Israeli officials in Jerusalem about his Middle East peace goals, and will hold discussions with Abbas later on Saturday.

"Every one of these meetings helps advance the process," Bush said.

"Every one of these meetings helps us inch toward the goal of getting a state defined with borders and the refugee issue, as well as security concerns defined by the end of my presidency," he said. "And I believe we can do that, and I know it's going to be important for the peace in the Middle East."

The other topic that dominated the talks, Bush said, was the recent turmoil in Lebanon, perceived by the United States and many in the Sunni Arab world as a demonstration of Shiite-controlled Iran's quest for more influence in the region.

Bush said he and Abbas agreed on their concern about "radical elements undermining" the US-backed government of Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora.

Hizbullah overran Beirut neighborhoods last week in protest of measures aimed at the group by Siniora's government, a display of power that shocked and concerned the West. "This is a defining moment," he said. "It is a moment that requires us to stand strongly with the Siniora government and to support the Siniora government."

On the way from the airport, Bush's motorcade passed a "peacemakers" mural on the side of the road, a reminder of past efforts on Middle East diplomacy by his predecessors.

Palestinians outraged over Bush's rhetoric

Palestinians were dismayed that Bush, in his speech to Israel's parliament on Thursday, made only one reference to their aspirations for a state of their own and did not use the occasion to press Israelis to make compromises.

Bush hailed Israel as a "homeland for the chosen people" and pledged that Israelis could forever count on American support against enemies like Hamas and Iran.

Bush's arrival in Egypt was met with stinging criticism by the country's state-owned newspapers, which are run by government-appointed managers. "Bush aims to do nothing but appease Israel," wrote Mursi Atallah, the publisher of Al-Ahram, the flagship daily of the state-owned press.

Abbas will make his case for Bush to put more pressure on Israel, but he has little leverage and is weak at home, governing only in the West Bank while Hamas controls Gaza.

"He should have told the Israelis no one can be free at the expense of others," Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said. "He missed this opportunity and we are disappointed."

AP and Reuters contributed to this article.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abbas; bible; bush; islam; israel; palestine; prophecy; roadmap

1 posted on 05/17/2008 1:10:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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Bush and Abbas take a mid-day stroll. (Photo: AFP)
2 posted on 05/17/2008 1:12:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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U.S. President George W. Bush and PA President Mahmoud Abbas walk hand-in-hand after their meeting in Sharm al-Sheikh on Saturday. (AP)

http://www.haaretz.com/
3 posted on 05/17/2008 1:13:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

I can’t understand why people get so upset about McCain when Bush turned out to be 100x worse.


4 posted on 05/17/2008 1:18:52 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: F15Eagle

reason #1 I would not want the job...holding hands with other guys.

As far as the state: like it or not it’s needed. Give them a state and hopefully they can get back on their feet


5 posted on 05/17/2008 1:21:39 PM PDT by old-and-old
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To: old-and-old; Alouette; Salem; SJackson; 444Flyer; XeniaSt; Diogenesis; Esther Ruth; Cindy; blam; ...

Dividing the land of Israel will result in catastrophe.

But it will seem to work ... for a short while ...


6 posted on 05/17/2008 1:29:15 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Nothing to see here, just move along. Let’s all go to the “Day in the Life of President Bush” thread. “Oooh look, it’s Barney the dog! He’s swuch a cute liddle doggy yes you are!”


7 posted on 05/17/2008 1:32:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bipartisanship: Two wolves and the American people deciding what's for dinner)
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To: F15Eagle
Americans may raise an eyebrow at men holding hands, but in the Arab world, affection among men is common, and without sexual connotation. ''Holding hands is the warmest expression of affection between men,'' said Samir Khalaf, a sociology professor at American University of Beirut in Lebanon. ''It's a sign of solidarity and kinship.''

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07E4D71E31F932A35756C0A9639C8B63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/F/Fattah,%20Hassan%20M.

8 posted on 05/17/2008 1:34:18 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: F15Eagle
honestly though, what do you suggest? The Palestinians are a time bomb waiting to really explode in those tight quarters with no long term plans. Millions of young men with no jobs will only mean trouble. That is a fact. For how much longer can Israel contain them? The 16th century where you can throw people out or kill them is long gone, someone in the Balkans tried and look what it got them.
9 posted on 05/17/2008 1:37:58 PM PDT by old-and-old
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To: F15Eagle
President Bush(2001):
“You’re either on our side or the terrorists’ side”.


(2009) Hand in hand with the financier of the Munich Olympic Atrocities and other murders of Americans.


10 posted on 05/17/2008 1:43:06 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: old-and-old

The reason they are a problem is because much of the Arab world and most of the muslim world MAKE it a problem. The Saudis have hundreds of billions of dollars, yet they fund terrorism.

Iran has hundreds of billions of dollars of oil money, yet funds terrorism.

The Egyptians said they would shoot Palis breaking over the wall from Gaza into Egypt.

The Arab / muslim world doesn’t care for the Palestinians.

Kuwait DEPORTED hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

They want ONE THING. For this to be a constant SORE in the side of Israel.

The West Bank will become a huge Gaza Strip. Right now you have terrorist rockets launched from Gaza at Sderot, etc.

When the West Bank becomes a state, it will be militarized.

Mark my words.

The end game is to wipe out the nation of Israel and push all Jews into the sea.

In the final analysis, the world will choose oil over the fate of the Jews and the only viable democracy in the Middle East.

There is no solution to this, frankly, prior to the Second Coming.

I would be all for peace, but this “peace” is no peace deal in reality at all. It’s just an ever-tightening noose squeezing Israel.


11 posted on 05/17/2008 1:44:38 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Nothing to see here, just move along. Let’s all go to the “Day in the Life of President Bush” thread. “Oooh look, it’s Barney the dog! He’s swuch a cute liddle doggy yes you are!”

I despise those stupid threads. This is not a monarchy. I don't give a damn about Jenna's wedding and their stupid dog.

12 posted on 05/17/2008 1:45:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: F15Eagle

Indeed. Which is why we should just tell the Pali’s that they already have a state of their own. It’s called Jordan.


13 posted on 05/17/2008 2:05:58 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: F15Eagle

“Dividing the land of Israel will result in catastrophe.”

“What hath God wrought?” may soon be a common saying again. Man never learns...and the blood of the Jews who will suffer within their smaller new borders and at arms length of their enemies as the result of these man-made “negotiations” will also be on our nation and its leader’s hands for taking part in this abomination.


14 posted on 05/17/2008 2:20:13 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3)
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To: Diogenesis
(2009) Hand in hand with the financier of the Munich Olympic Atrocities and other murders of Americans.

Sad, but true.

15 posted on 05/17/2008 2:25:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LOL. (but sad)


16 posted on 05/17/2008 2:28:56 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: F15Eagle

Translation: Bush plans to sell out Israel before the end of his term. He needn’t worry. President Hussein Obama will take care of it for him. Bush’s legacy is already secure: the utter destruction of the Republican Party because they spit in the face of conservatives.


17 posted on 05/17/2008 2:40:04 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: F15Eagle

Or in other words, “You must deal directly with terrorists.”

Right?

Mark


18 posted on 05/17/2008 3:17:52 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: MarkL; Astronaut

The stage is being set. Expect the world to cheer when this Pali state becomes a reality.


19 posted on 05/17/2008 3:21:53 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

haven’t we heard this song before when a president is leaving office?


20 posted on 05/17/2008 5:09:52 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
haven’t we heard this song before when a president is leaving office?

The whole charade is becoming embarrassing and pathetic. Without the support of the Arabs like Mubarak nothing can or will change. The role of America has always been marginal at best, and the notion of "brokering" a "Peace" fundamentally misguided. It reveals a basic misunderstanding of what the situation requires, and why a generation of "diplomacy" has netted zilch.

21 posted on 05/17/2008 5:23:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
There will not be a Palestinian state. If all the "Palestinians" really wanted was a state of their very own, they could have declared one at any time during the last 15 years, and received recognition in the UN from more countries than recognize Israel.

They do not want a state of their own. They want all of Israel. Finished.

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22 posted on 05/17/2008 8:04:08 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: camerakid400
Just shows how culturally insensitive those Arabs really are!

If they were ‘enlightened liberals’ like those in the NYTimes, they'd know that American's find man-man hand-holding to be sexually deviant and adjust their behavior to culturally accommodate us.

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Or is that only a one-way street?

23 posted on 05/17/2008 8:32:17 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Alouette

Let’s not forget the 19 years (1948-1967) that Israel didn’t ‘occupy’ their territory.

They were quite happy without a state back then, too.


24 posted on 05/17/2008 8:34:59 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: F15Eagle; Lijahsbubbe; Alouette; Yehuda; dennisw
Bush and Abbas met for nearly an hour before speaking briefly to reporters. They then strolled back inside, holding hands as they walked slowly down a bouganveilla-lined path...

Now there's an appropriate symbol. Beautiful profuse flowers, sturdy canes, drought tolerant...

Oh yeah, look a little closer. The stuff grows like kudzu and pity the poor soul who scrapes against it or has to pick up the trimmings. The thorns might as well be the claws of a thousand wild beasts.


25 posted on 05/17/2008 8:35:06 PM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: montag813
I despise those stupid threads.

I don't much care for them myself, but if you don't like them, don't read them.

26 posted on 05/17/2008 9:15:13 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: Alouette

No arab state in Eretz Yisrael. EVER!


27 posted on 05/18/2008 9:31:58 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: F15Eagle; Alouette
Mr. President, there is no pony hiding in that pile of horse manure!
28 posted on 05/18/2008 10:32:07 AM PDT by EveningStar
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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29 posted on 05/18/2008 2:33:16 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: old-and-old
As far as the state: like it or not it’s needed. Give them a state and hopefully they can get back on their feet

Who would you give it two. There's no government in control of the territory or population. Hamas in Gaza, Fatah in the West Bank by virtue of the IDF presence. They need two terror states. As to getting back on their feet, Gaza was the test.

30 posted on 05/18/2008 2:38:01 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

not so fast; keep your wallet open for a generation until they build a decent state, by ME standards.
We’re stuck. We want peace and have to buy it. Amnesty to all, and buy the vote for the “good” side with jobs, loans, empty promises or whatever it takes. Once in power, arm them so they can crush Hamas.


31 posted on 05/18/2008 2:52:45 PM PDT by old-and-old
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To: old-and-old
We’re stuck. We want peace and have to buy it. Amnesty to all, and buy the vote for the “good” side with jobs, loans, empty promises or whatever it takes. Once in power, arm them so they can crush Hamas.

I understand what you're saying, but it won't work under the current circumstances.

First, this process has been going on since 1993, actually 1990 under GWB's dad. That's a generation.

We've supplied funds, arms, training, business opportunities over that period. Their GDP is 70% lower today than when we started.

The problem is that they've used their "freedom" to advance terror. IMO, in 1995, when it became crystal clear that the palestinians weren't ending incitement, weren't disarming terror groups, and were refusing to accept the existance of Israel, the process should have stopped. Dead in it's tracks, till they complied.

Clinton simply ignored the duplicity, and kept things going. GWB took it several steps further with the Road Map, and took palestinian compliance completely off the table, and rewarded them with a full fledged state.

You're right about a generation, but the first step involves incitement and terror. Sending money to terrorists, who raise their children to revere jihad against the west, won't bring a friendly, pro-Western state.

32 posted on 05/18/2008 3:10:10 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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