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Parents to Sue Maker of Metal Baseball Bats Over Son's Injury
Fox News ^ | May 17, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/17/2008 10:20:12 PM PDT by MissouriConservative

WAYNE, N.J. — A New Jersey couple, whose son was struck in the chest with a line drive, is planning to sue the maker of a metal baseball bat used in the game.

An attorney says Domalewski will need millions of dollars worth of medical care for the rest of his life.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ambulancechasers; johnedwards; litigation; tortreform
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1 posted on 05/17/2008 10:20:12 PM PDT by MissouriConservative
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To: MissouriConservative

I have now heard it all. Why don’t the parents sue themselves for letting the child play baseball? After all, if it weren’t for them letting him on the field, he wouldn’t be disabled now. They are just as much to blame as the bat maker, Little League, and the sporting goods store...at least according to their logic.


3 posted on 05/17/2008 10:22:23 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles.)
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To: MissouriConservative

That’s how justice works around here; if something terrible happens, someone with deep pockets is at fault.

I’m sorry for the Domalewskis, but nobody can be blamed for what happened. Unless you actually believe the Almighty micro-manages the affairs of men.


4 posted on 05/17/2008 10:24:27 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: MissouriConservative

The manufacturer of the ball that did the damage has no fault.


5 posted on 05/17/2008 10:25:25 PM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative

They let their son play. They should be sued.


6 posted on 05/17/2008 10:27:14 PM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative

Sue God for making the laws of physics.

(I hear he’s loaded.)


7 posted on 05/17/2008 10:27:45 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: allmost

Actually the way they design the metal bats these days, it is a safety hazard.


8 posted on 05/17/2008 10:30:25 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: Homer1

A story in USA Today last year regarding bat safety had this quote “an American Legion Baseball study in 2005 found no substantial scientific proof that wooden bats are safer than metal bats.” I don’t know anything more about it than that though.


9 posted on 05/17/2008 10:35:11 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Homer1

I thought the way the way field looked was dangerous.


10 posted on 05/17/2008 10:37:37 PM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative
Two years ago, Steven Domalewski was pitching when the ball slammed into his chest and stopped his heart. He was resuscitated but now has brain damage and is severely disabled

Pitching is dangerous if you don't have quick reflexes to catch line drives. This should be common sense to parents. They want their son to play a competitive sport, but they want it risk free? They need to be shamed for their greed.

11 posted on 05/17/2008 10:38:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Homer1

“Actually the way they design the metal bats these days, it is a safety hazard.”

I manage an 11u travel team. I agree. I do think the rules should be changed regarding the materials use to construct bats.


12 posted on 05/17/2008 10:39:46 PM PDT by Miles the Slasher
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To: Homer1
Actually the way they design the metal bats these days, it is a safety hazard.

A safety hazard in a way that is relevant to the specifics of this lawsuit?

13 posted on 05/17/2008 10:43:43 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

A new sports cliche - the heart-stopping line drive back to the mound!


14 posted on 05/17/2008 10:55:03 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: MissouriConservative
Sue knife manufacturers.

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15 posted on 05/17/2008 10:55:55 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: MissouriConservative
The family contends metal baseball bats are inherently unsafe for youth games because the ball comes off them much faster than from wooden bats.

Faster ? yes. Much faster? err... no.
The aluminum bat can average about 106mph on a home run swing wile a wood bat will do about 96mph. So it's about 8mph (or 7%) difference. Source

Mommy and Daddy should wrap up their precious little Stevie in bubble-wrap before he goes out to the mound next time. Or better yet, keep him home.
Furrfu.

16 posted on 05/17/2008 10:57:25 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: MissouriConservative

They’re even suing the store they purchased the bat from?

Unreal


17 posted on 05/17/2008 10:58:25 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: MissouriConservative

They should sue the NBA. Baseball is dangerous. Seriously, These idiots looking to make a fortune off of lawsuits should be outlawed !


18 posted on 05/17/2008 11:07:01 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: MissouriConservative

When the kid gets this money the lawyer may then convince the kid to sue his parents for endangerment.


19 posted on 05/17/2008 11:09:27 PM PDT by fishhound (Boycott the Olympics in China.)
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To: MissouriConservative
This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. I have coached many youth baseball teams and my own son played organized ball for many years. Each year we would have to buy a new bat for him that was a little longer. Good light metal bats are about a hundred bucks each. Cheap ones are $20.
My son got hurt worse by getting hit by the pitcher than he did by any line drives hit his way and his home on the field was second base. If the young ones had to swing wooden bats most of them would never hit the ball. They couldn't get their bats around fast enough.
This is just pure greed and wanting to blame someone for a terrible accident.
20 posted on 05/17/2008 11:20:17 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Retired AB ranger and damn proud of it!!! I served to support our constitution and our way of life.)
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To: MissouriConservative
While they're waiting for the deep pockets to toss some money their way just to make the case go away, a website has been set up to accept donations and to announce the 3rd annual Halloween fund raiser for Steven.
21 posted on 05/17/2008 11:21:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: ZGuy

As a kid...we used only wooden bats. I sat there once...barely 30 feet from the batter when he swung and the bat broke. The broke end came my direction and fell around five feet from me. I sat there and thought...man, it’d be great to have steel bats that wouldn’t break. Maybe I was wrong though.


22 posted on 05/17/2008 11:23:33 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: dread78645
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/245505

More interesting data

Studies in the American Sports Medicine Journal indicate a pitcher's ability to react to a ball hit from 60 feet, 6 1/2 inches away (the major league regulation distance) stops after 155 km/h. A 2002 report for the Journal for the American College of Sports Medicine found 37 per cent of balls hit by an aluminum bat reached 160 km/h, while just 2 per cent hit with a wooden bat did.

And Domalewski, like Green, was pitching from just 45 feet away.

Stephen Keener, president and CEO of Little League, recently told USA Today that the elimination of metal bats would lead to a "dramatic decline" in enrolment at the lower levels of the game.

"Non-wood bats spread the weight (of the ball) out across the bat," Keener said. "It's easier to handle, to swing and, for a lot of kids, to have a greater success playing the game."

Since the introduction of the metal bat in 1971, it has been remodelled many times to improve performance. The steady push to make bats more powerful prompted Jack MacKay to quit his job as a metal bat designer for Louisville Slugger in 1989.

"This is the kind of technology you ought to be throwing at bin Laden, not some baseball pitcher," MacKay told The Sporting News in 2002. "We've overengineered it. It's the worst thing I ever did. Aluminum bats and wood bats are not even in the same ballpark."

23 posted on 05/17/2008 11:23:52 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: MissouriConservative

You can beat someone up with practically any kind of baseball bat.


24 posted on 05/17/2008 11:25:24 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: buck jarret

No. You cant.


25 posted on 05/17/2008 11:32:00 PM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative
They should really be persuing a lawsuit against the estate of Abner Doubleday for inventing baseball in the first place.

even though he really had nothing to do with inventing baseball. but sueing his estate makes as much sense as what they are doing.

26 posted on 05/18/2008 12:01:45 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: MissouriConservative

This is just a sad story all around.


27 posted on 05/18/2008 1:40:44 AM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: MissouriConservative

this kid should be suing the parents for allowing the kid to play in a inherently dangerous sport...of course the kids is not of legal age - he needs to have his parents appointed guardians ad litum in the lawsuit.... therefore - the parents will be suing themselves!!!

there is case law on such incidences in NJ ....as lawyers will do anything to bring an action and have insurance companies pay the bills in a suit....

of course - the attornies all insist they are only suing for the good of the injured party...although...the ones that always benefit most are the shysters in the $1,000 suits!!!


28 posted on 05/18/2008 2:04:02 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: allmost
It was an express justification for the imposition of the new product liability law to eliminate "fault" as the condition precedent upon which relief could be granted for an injury. New Jersey Justices, in imposing products liability law, expressly stated that the idea was to spread the risk throughout the whole society by imposing it on manufacturers and those otherwise in the stream of commerce while eliminating fault. So they arranged for the demise, or at least the marginalization, of the old common law principle: "no liability without fault."

It was necessary to eliminate the concept of fault because if that century-old principle had been adhered to, the risk could not be as effectively spread. Social engineering has its price.It became necessary only to show that some "defect" in the product-not necessarily caused by negligence-led to the injury.

The justices achieved their social policy goals, they have spread the risk throughout society. So baseball bats, whether metal or wood, cost more. Insurance for little league teams costs more. Insurance for public playgrounds where these games are played costs more. Insurance for the store that sells the bats to the teams costs more. And on it goes. The problem is it goes on and on because whole new industries have been created as a result of this judicial do -goodism. Whole new careers for lawyers to prosecute and defend these cases and clerks in insurance companies to manage them. New fields for actuaries to assess the risks and provide conditions for insurance coverage. It was necessary to eliminate the concept of fault because if that century-old principle had been adhered to, the risk could not be as effectively spread. Social engineering has its price.

One more price for this state of affairs is that the lawyers representing this poor child who has no doubt been tragically injured, are doing precisely what has been envisioned for them to do: looking for the deep pockets. Those pockets are supposed to be insured.

So we see kids playing baseball becoming more expensive and regulations about how and where it's played becoming more and more onerous and absurd.


29 posted on 05/18/2008 2:07:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Mr Nathathan your skirt was showing.
30 posted on 05/18/2008 2:12:31 AM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative

Sadly the parents should loose custody for endangering the child.


31 posted on 05/18/2008 2:14:52 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The Huge Demonstrations by Illegals in 2006 prove they have more of the Spirit of 76 then we do)
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To: allmost
Huh?


32 posted on 05/18/2008 2:15:22 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: pepsionice
As a kid...we used only wooden bats. I sat there once...barely 30 feet from the batter when he swung and the bat broke. The broke end came my direction and fell around five feet from me. I sat there and thought...man, it’d be great to have steel bats that wouldn’t break. Maybe I was wrong though.

I don't know if you are wrong or not. Sometime in the next couple weeks MLB is having a meeting to discuss the danger of the bats they are now using (wood). They have changed the wood they use and they are breaking often. Has become a real hazard, and pretty dangerous.

33 posted on 05/18/2008 2:17:17 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: nathanbedford

You think this is the bat’s fault. Explain.


34 posted on 05/18/2008 2:20:59 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Homer1
Studies in the American Sports Medicine Journal indicate a pitcher's ability to react to a ball hit from 60 feet, 6 1/2 inches away (the major league regulation distance) stops after 155 km/h. A 2002 report for the Journal for the American College of Sports Medicine found 37 per cent of balls hit by an aluminum bat reached 160 km/h, while just 2 per cent hit with a wooden bat did.

The 2002 study was done before the “Bat Exit Speed Ratio” (BESR) rule went into effect:

Since 2003, all bats are required to meet the “Bat Exit Speed Ratio” (BESR) performance limitation, which ensures that aluminum bats do not hit the ball any harder than the best wood bats.
- Youth Committee of USA Baseball

So this kid got a line shot by an aluminum bat that was degraded to perform as bad as a wooden bat. Steven wasn't quick enough to avoid a line drive regardless of which kind of bat hit it.

It's just a guess, but something tells me Steve did a 'Roger-the-Rocket' pose and didn't get out of his follow-thru fast enough to make the switch to a fielder. That's why pitchers have gloves and cups --to be fielders.

Now, who or what will we blame when it is a wooden bat that makes the hit? Sue the ball manufacturer for selling a dangerous projectile?

Hey, I got an idea: It's that nasty ball that caused the damage --Maybe we should replace the cork and yarn inside the ball with foam rubber!

No more bloody noses and missing teeth from bad hops, no more cups for the the in-field, no gloves needed for anybody except maybe the catcher and 1st baseman ...
I mean that'll really make the game safe for the kiddos ... wouldn't it?

35 posted on 05/18/2008 2:29:07 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: allmost
You missed the entire thrust of my post.

However I suspect that the plaintiffs lawyer will look for some "defect" or will contrive an argument that there was a "failure to warn" of the greater acceleration of a ball off the metal bat or some such thing. He will find an expert who will so testify, no matter how implausibly, and the decision then goes to the jury which, being human-and we want them to be human-might very well render a verdict out of sympathy for the pathetically injured child.

Most of the posts on this thread have missed the whole point, if you want to spread the risk, there are a lot of hidden costs to pay. If you do not want to spread the risk , then horribly injured children will necessarily go uncompensated. My post is in favor of neither one. I just wish that those who comment would grapple with the real issue.


36 posted on 05/18/2008 2:31:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Dov in Houston
The way to end frivolous law suits is to enact a law holding the plaintiff responsible for all legal costs of the defendant should the plaintiff lose the case.
37 posted on 05/18/2008 2:54:41 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: Dov in Houston
The way to end frivolous law suits is to enact a law holding the plaintiff responsible for all legal costs of the defendant should the plaintiff lose the case.
38 posted on 05/18/2008 2:54:44 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: MissouriConservative

We need tort reform, but not limits on awards. We need to change to a loser pays system. If someone sues and loses, they pay the defendant’s legal fees including court and filing fees, and lawyers’ bill. As it is now it is often cheaper to settle a frivolous suit like this than to fight and win.


39 posted on 05/18/2008 3:01:36 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: lexusppd

didn’t see your post when I posted mine.


40 posted on 05/18/2008 3:12:33 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Dov in Houston

Sue the NBA? The National Basketball Association?


41 posted on 05/18/2008 3:20:13 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: pepsionice

They’re not steel, they’re aluminum.


42 posted on 05/18/2008 3:22:09 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Irish Eyes

Some hitters have found that maple bats perform better than ash bats. Maple bats tend to burst into pieces while ash bats splinter with less dangerous effect. I believe the meeting will take up this issue and, perhaps, the maple bat will be discontinued.


43 posted on 05/18/2008 3:30:36 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: NoLibZone
Sadly the parents should loose (sic) custody for endangering the child.

You are joking, of course.

44 posted on 05/18/2008 3:33:02 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: nathanbedford

I can see a whole new movement of “Bat Control” on the horizon.


45 posted on 05/18/2008 3:34:37 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: ZGuy

It’s very rare, if it you get hit just right in the chest, with a baseball or a fist, it stuns the heart into stopping. It’s tragic, but an unavoidable risk of being a human being. The parents ought to sue God, nature, gaia or Darwin, according to their faith.


46 posted on 05/18/2008 3:39:14 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: Homer1

Makes sense to me. If kids can’t handle a wooden bat, maybe that says something about the suitability of the game for children.


47 posted on 05/18/2008 3:41:14 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Misterioso
At least the city kids who play halfball in the streets lined with parked cars are safe. A tennis ball sliced in half and a wooden broomstick with the broom end lopped off.

It ends the bat controversy.

48 posted on 05/18/2008 4:07:36 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Jabba the Nutt
When I was young I had a neighbor in Maplewood, NJ who while playing softball in gym class was hit in the chest by a ball struck with a wooden bat and he died on the spot. The kid is lucky to be alive.
49 posted on 05/18/2008 4:18:45 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marsoc Dad)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Agreed. When I used to play softball (underhand pitch no less) I was a pitcher. During one game while my team was up to bat my friend hit a line drive straight into the pitcher - it hit the poor girl square between the eyes breaking her glasses in half and breaking her nose. They took her to the hospital and we finished the game. I have to admit I was a little shaken when I went to the mound - but as you pointed out. This is probably the biggest risk when pitching. The reaction time is split-second - easier to get out of the way than attempting to catch a ball like that most times.

I absolutely cannot believe these parents are suing the maker of the bat! As you said, these parents do need to be shamed for their greed. It’s sad what happened to their son, but c’mon.

I’m pretty much speechless right now...


50 posted on 05/18/2008 4:30:40 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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