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World Food Crisis 'Here To Stay'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-19-2008 | David Blair

Posted on 05/18/2008 7:47:57 PM PDT by blam

World food price crisis 'here to stay'

By David Blair in New York
Last Updated: 1:43AM BST 19/05/2008

EPA Sir John Holme said the world needed a "green revolution"

High food prices are here to stay and the world needs a "green revolution" to feed its rising population, the senior humanitarian official at the United Nations has told The Telegraph. Sir John Holmes, Britain's former ambassador to Paris who now serves as the UN's under-secretary for humanitarian affairs, said structural changes in the global economy are the cause of the sudden rise in food prices.

"It is possible that in the next two or three years prices will come down a bit from the peaks we've seen in the last few months – but not to where they were before," he said.

Sir John said the emergence of hundreds of millions of middle class consumers in China and India has increased demand for food. High oil prices make transporting food more expensive. The supply of grain has been hit by bad weather and the transfer of land to grow biofuels instead of food crops.

With the global population forecast to reach nine billion by 2050 compared with six billion today, Sir John said, the world needed a "green revolution", especially in Africa.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crisis; food; foodcrisis; hunger; world
I read in another recent article that China has turned to Africa to begin growing and importing food grown by them in Africa.
1 posted on 05/18/2008 7:47:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

just weeks ago they had obesity crisis

seems everything is ok now

cured obesity/diabetes quick l like


2 posted on 05/18/2008 7:51:09 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: blam

Maybe they’ll simply end up buying Zimbabwe from Mugabe, now that he’s chased every competent farmer off the land.

That’s it. They’ll prop up the old butcher and run the place as their colonial plantation.


3 posted on 05/18/2008 7:51:18 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: blam
we're gonna starve, over heat, run out of energy... and what else? Oh, we're all miserable racists.

You know, I think I'm beginning to see a pattern...

4 posted on 05/18/2008 7:52:01 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The road to hell is paved with euphemisms.)
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To: blam
With the global population forecast to reach nine billion by 2050 compared with six billion today, Sir John said, the world needed a "green revolution", especially in Africa.

Isn't green the color of Islam?

5 posted on 05/18/2008 7:52:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (During the Middle Ages, rats spread bubonic plague. Today, Rats spread the socialist plague.)
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To: sinanju
That’s it. They’ll prop up the old butcher and run the place as their colonial plantation.

and the American Left will nod in agreement

6 posted on 05/18/2008 7:53:38 PM PDT by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: the invisib1e hand

What do you expect from a guy named John Holmes.


7 posted on 05/18/2008 7:54:54 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: blam

IIRC, the world had a reasonable amount of food until the leftists in the U.S. came up with their brilliant idea of making E-85 ethanol leveraging corn. Now, there’s not enough food available to the world and nearly all foodstuffs in the U.S. and worldwide are significantly more expensive.

I’m sure Jammah Cahtah is proud. Now perhaps Obama can serve Jammah’s second term and revisit the misery that Jammah brought to our country in the 70’s.


8 posted on 05/18/2008 7:58:29 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

LOL! All this and Obama too! Gee, reason 235 to be glad I’m old and will not be around to see the culmination of all this (hopefully). All the youngsters of the world … enjoy your legacy.


9 posted on 05/18/2008 7:59:33 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: blam

Modern agriculture can feed the world if the left and their thug dictator buddies will allow them.


10 posted on 05/18/2008 7:59:48 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: blam

When the US Dollar returns to the value it had oh say three or four years ago then I want to see what the price of food is.

There isn’t a damn problem with food production. Other than some localized weather related crop failures such as the Southeast Asia rice crop or some related animal problem such as a disease hitting Chinese swine there is nothing abnormal about the supply of food in the World.


11 posted on 05/18/2008 8:11:29 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: blam
"High food prices are here to stay and the world needs a "green revolution" to feed its rising population,...."

The "green revolution" one of the major things responsible for the problems with food costs. As usual, these 'watermelons' confuse cause, effect and solution with each other; whether it be through ignorance or lying to advance their agenda.

12 posted on 05/18/2008 8:19:06 PM PDT by LegendHasIt (Noone/Nohow '08)
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To: blam

victory gardens


13 posted on 05/18/2008 8:25:25 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: blam

Has anyone seen these:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/05/01/this-company-may-be-the-biggest-threat-to-your-future-health.aspx?source=nl

http://www.mercola.com/future-of-food/index.htm

Scary stuff if true... any thoughts?


14 posted on 05/18/2008 8:28:19 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Rembrandt

Anybody got any info on the impact of “Organic” agriculture on food prices and supply? Seems to me that yield per acre is significantly lower, my guess would be by 20-30%.. That has to mean more total acres needed to produce the same amount of total food. My wife has fallen prey to the mystical foolishness of what I see as a big-time scam.


15 posted on 05/18/2008 8:29:38 PM PDT by Humble Servant ( Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: blam

Excuse me if I say “balderdash” to anyone who predicts the future.......


16 posted on 05/18/2008 8:30:42 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
"Scary stuff if true... any thoughts?"

I agree. I don't know what to do.

17 posted on 05/18/2008 8:35:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

“green revolution” means....YOUR greenbacks into THEIR hands.....to “feed the hungry”


18 posted on 05/18/2008 8:36:24 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: blam
CO2 fertilizes plants. Ethanol shifts food production to fuel. So the green left wants to eliminate all CO2 emissions. But it is fine with diverting food production, even though it emits more. What do the positions they support all have in common?

Hatred of the human race...

19 posted on 05/18/2008 8:38:31 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: television is just wrong

Victory Gardens


20 posted on 05/18/2008 8:38:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: JasonC

There is a lot of hatred of the human race around starting with Lucifer who thought God’s creation was an abomination.......


21 posted on 05/18/2008 8:40:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: lawnguy
"Modern agriculture can feed the world if the left and their thug dictator buddies will allow them."

Needed to be repeated.

22 posted on 05/18/2008 8:41:02 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Gabz; Humble Servant
Humble Servant has the following question about organic agriculture and I know one of you has some information that will help answer his question. I remember somebody enlightening me last year. Can you help?

Anybody got any info on the impact of “Organic” agriculture on food prices and supply? Seems to me that yield per acre is significantly lower, my guess would be by 20-30%.. That has to mean more total acres needed to produce the same amount of total food. My wife has fallen prey to the mystical foolishness of what I see as a big-time scam.

23 posted on 05/18/2008 8:45:48 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: blam

Thanks... I was afraid I was turning into a gullible liberal, but that stuff is just terrifying.


24 posted on 05/18/2008 9:11:05 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Humble Servant

Organic yields are substantially lower than modern yields, sometimes by as much as 50%.

The biggest mistake the organic advocates made in their regulations was the elimination of synthetic fertilizers. On our farm, I ran the numbers:

I could fertilize one pivot (125 acres) of alfalfa for one year with ONE truckload (about 28 tons) of prilled synthetic fertilizer.... or 170 truckloads of cow muck.

That’s how low the NPK levels are in things like manure. Don’t get me wrong - manure is a great soil amendment, but only marginally so for the NPK content. What it has that synthetics don’t is organic matter.

We see lots of people babbling on incessantly about “soil depletion” when they talk of “factory farming” and such. Rubbish. As long as you test your soil and add what you need in the way of fertilizers and amendments, you can maintain very high yields. You cannot, however, do this with fish guts, poultry litter or cow muck, as you simply cannot afford the trucking costs and logistics associated with that much material in one year. So your yields will go down.

If you want to see statistical pictures of what full-on organic farming looks like, simply look at records of what ag yields were like prior to WWII. That’s when all farming was “organic” - and farmers didn’t have much choice in the matter.


25 posted on 05/18/2008 10:50:23 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Rembrandt

There’s tons of food in the world right now.

What the press isn’t telling you is that the shortfalls in wheat and rice are more due to trade restrictions slammed into place by other wheat producing countries (like Russia, Ukraine, Argentina, and a 50% reduction in wheat production in Oz due to drought). It has nothing to do with US production or carry-outs at all.

The reason why we now have the lowest carry-outs we’ve had in decades is due to how cheap our commodities are for people in other countries. The US dollar has gone down by 41% since 2002, and this makes our commodities dirt-cheap on the world markets. Of course these other countries (India, China, et al) are going to buy up our products with both hands - with the dollar being as cheap as it is, they can probably buy it here and ship it there for less than it costs them to buy it.

Ethanol and farmers in the US have little power over the value of the US dollar in forex trading. The biggest causes are the people in DC spending like sailors in a whorehouse, our trade imbalance and our absurdly high levels of government, corporate and personal debt in the US.


26 posted on 05/18/2008 10:55:20 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

“Organic yields are substantially lower than modern yields, sometimes by as much as 50%.

The biggest mistake the organic advocates made in their regulations was the elimination of synthetic fertilizers. On our farm, I ran the numbers:

I could fertilize one pivot (125 acres) of alfalfa for one year with ONE truckload (about 28 tons) of prilled synthetic fertilizer.... or 170 truckloads of cow muck.

That’s how low the NPK levels are in things like manure. Don’t get me wrong - manure is a great soil amendment, but only marginally so for the NPK content. What it has that synthetics don’t is organic matter.

We see lots of people babbling on incessantly about “soil depletion” when they talk of “factory farming” and such. Rubbish. As long as you test your soil and add what you need in the way of fertilizers and amendments, you can maintain very high yields. You cannot, however, do this with fish guts, poultry litter or cow muck, as you simply cannot afford the trucking costs and logistics associated with that much material in one year. So your yields will go down.

If you want to see statistical pictures of what full-on organic farming looks like, simply look at records of what ag yields were like prior to WWII. That’s when all farming was “organic” - and farmers didn’t have much choice in the matter.”

Thanks very much. Confirms my instincts.


27 posted on 05/19/2008 4:57:45 AM PDT by Humble Servant ( Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: NVDave
Good overview, thanks.

I think the drought in Australia is having a larger effect than recognized by most.

28 posted on 05/19/2008 6:07:15 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The original Green Revolution was fueled by cheap oil - for fertilizers and mechanization. Mechanization in turn required large, uniform crops that could be efficiently harvested. That requirement has led to widespread monoculture; its lack of genetic diversity leaves our crops to susceptible to blights, like the Irish potato famine. In view of those facts, I’m not sure the original Green Revolution will prove sustainable. What miracle will the next Green Revolution be based on?


29 posted on 05/19/2008 9:03:32 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
If you add "but they won't"...
30 posted on 05/19/2008 8:09:27 PM PDT by JasonC
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