There is no lie the Libs won't tell to get elected. And conservatives just sit on their hands and complain.
posted on 05/19/2008 1:31:32 PM PDT
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posted on 05/19/2008 1:34:09 PM PDT
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
another liberal faux-gun organization.
2A is not about sprotsmen.
posted on 05/19/2008 1:34:49 PM PDT
by Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
Typical fudds "I dun care long as they don't touch me huntin' guns" and "a good hunter should only need one shot so five rounds is more then enough".
These guys are the enemy among us. They are at the gates, they're IN the gates.
This bunch of fudds are going to have a heart attack when Obama and company goes after "sniper rifles" (30-30, 30-06, .338 win mag, .308, etc etc after they are finished with "assault weapons".
posted on 05/19/2008 1:36:52 PM PDT
(McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
I have a feeling these “gun enthusiasts” also hold tupperware parties.
posted on 05/19/2008 1:40:39 PM PDT
(Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
"We believe recent attacks on Senator Obama's stand on the 2nd Amendment and his commitment to our hunting and shooting heritage are unfair..."
Here we go again with the naive "he supports hunting" nonsense.
As we always have to point out....that's not what it's about.
posted on 05/19/2008 1:40:43 PM PDT
("If you don't blame the camera for porn, then don't blame the gun for shootings". (Unknown))
They post a link to the democratic underground?!
posted on 05/19/2008 1:43:19 PM PDT
posted on 05/19/2008 1:43:24 PM PDT
(Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
AHSA is nothing more than a Trojan horse. They are totally in the hands of anti gunners. That they support B Hussein Obama is no surprise since he believes that no one should own a firearm at all, least of all for self defense.
posted on 05/19/2008 1:44:25 PM PDT
(I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
Gee, it’s kind of funny it costs nothing at all to join. Just fill out the form. It’s a wonder they aren’t paying the people that join!
posted on 05/19/2008 2:00:38 PM PDT
(Kick their ass -- Take their gas!)
"Senator Obama believes in protecting gun rights and respects the Second Amendment and the constitutional right of Americans to bear arms, said Rep. Kendall Van Dyk (D-Billings), House Democratic Chair of the Montana Legislative Sportsman Caucus."
posted on 05/19/2008 2:05:32 PM PDT
("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
I am stunned.
That the Brady-in-disguise ASHA would endorse the most extreme anti-gunner is amazing.
I’m guessing there are still a few people out there that don’t know about the ASHA subterfuge.
posted on 05/19/2008 2:07:06 PM PDT
by TC Rider
(The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
And the first meeting will be held in a phone booth.
posted on 05/19/2008 2:07:31 PM PDT
(Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
What in the world are you talking about.
What can we do to stop liberials from misleading the sheep.
I know this a BS org because I know the socialist position on guns.
What are you doing besides posting here and sitting on your hands?
posted on 05/19/2008 2:21:40 PM PDT
(Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
Curiously, the membership roster for Montana Sportsmen for Obama is identical to the membership roster for Montana Transgendered Cowboys for the Legalization of Cross-Species Romance.
posted on 05/19/2008 2:44:31 PM PDT
(The 2nd Amendment: It's not about sporting goods.)
Supporters wait for Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., to speak at a town hall meeting in Billings, Mont., Monday, May 19, 2008.
posted on 05/19/2008 2:45:57 PM PDT
(Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
April 16, 2008
ABC News reports that Barack Obama has collected the endorsement of a guns rights group, the American Hunters and Shooters Association:
"Sen. Obama will be a strong voice an unabashed voice for America's hunters and shooters and it is with great pleasure that we endorse his candidacy," President of the Association Ray Schoenke said, citing Obama's commitment to the traditions of gun ownership.
Schoenke said they had reached out to the Obama campaign several weeks ago to offer their support but the announcement wasn't made public until today. Schoenke added that the timing amid the controversy was important.
"We believe recent attacks on Sen. Obama's stand on the 2nd amendment and his commitment to the hunting and shooting heritages are unfair."
Actually, it is Obama's record on firearms that is unfair to Americans, but don't expect Ray Schoenke to know much about gun rights, even if the Daily Kos diarist is the President of the American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA).
Schoenke, a failed Democratic candidate for governor of Maryland, has donated thousands to Handgun Control, Inc, a virulent anti-gun organization that was the forerunner of Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence. He has donated tens of thousands more to anti-gun Democratic politicians including Ted Kennedy.
AHSA executive director Robert Ricker has testified as a paid witness against the gun industry and consults for several anti-gun groups, and John Rosenthal, President of the AHSA Foundation, is a former member of Sarah Brady's Handgun Control, Inc, and is leader of Stop Handgun Violence, a Massachusetts anti-gun group that has contributed to that state's intolerant anti-gun guns.
Just as Obama's record of claiming he is in favor of the Second Amendment even as he pushes for gun ban is dishonest, so is this endorsement from a trojan horse gun control organization masquerading as a group that respects American's rights to life and liberty.
Update: SayUncle examined this group earlier this year in greater detail. Posted by Confederate Yankee at April 16, 2008 04:05 PM
Posted by: SayUncle
You see, they are the righteous pro-hunting, pro-conservation, pro-gun group! The NRA betrays hunters at every turn. At least, thats what they tell us. Behold Ray Schoenkes screed at The Daily Kos. Its so disjointed I cant really fathom the point other than tooting the AHSAs horn. Which is amazing, since they have no significant accomplishments nor significant membership that I know of. Only a screed with zero actual evidence about why theyre good and NRA is bad. So, lets look at the American Hunters and Shooters Association record on guns:
The NSSF has a fact sheet on them here:
Reported in an article by Bill Schneideri that the operating budget for AHSA is $500,000. Where did this money come from? With only a handful of members (paying $25 dues) who is bankrolling their operation?
When you follow the money, they read like a whos who of gun grabbers. They are a front for the anti-gun Democratic Leadership Council so that anti-gun politicos can say they belong to a group that sounds pro-gun.
Members (five of them that they disclose) of the AHSA are anti-gun lobbyists.
Theyre basically a shill group set up so that anti-gun candidates can try to woo the hunting crowd. Note that their only endorsement victory (McCaskill) did not sign on to support Heller.
AHSA wrote a non-opposition opposition to Heller for its wording.
The president allegedley helped a reporter break the law by engaging in straw purchases.
They pay people to stand outside NRA meetings to protest. Cant get any volunteers with all your members?
They support they anti-gun Mayors Against Guns.
Field and Stream (you know, real hunters and real shooters) dont seem to be a fan.
They keep peddling the Zumbo myth.
They call gun owners extremists and whackos. Thats correct. The Executive Director of a supposedly pro-gun group is calling those who buy weapons for self-defense (i.e., the largest growing demographic of gun owners) whackos. So, who exactly are the shooters in American Hunters and Shooters?
They say any woman who buys a gun is a sign of law-breaking.
If any Montana Freepers want to send a letter to the editor of the local newsrags to make sure the media know that the people know that AHSA is an astroturf counter operation, feel free to use the following letter written by freeper mnehrling :
I am rewording and sending this as a letter to the editor:
Fake Gun Rights Group Supporting Obama
ABC News reports that Barack Obama has collected the endorsement of a guns rights group, the American Hunters and Shooters Association. At first, this sounds odd, considering that Mr. Obama has a very poor record of supporting our Second Amendment rights, favoring bans on the sale of all semi-automatic firearms, rifles, and shotguns. After some digging, it becomes clear why the American Hunters and Shooters Association endorsed Mr. Obama. The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) are not a gun rights group as they claim, on the contrary, this organization has opposed our Second Amendment rights on every front. AHSA executive director Robert Ricker has testified as a paid witness against the gun industry and consults for several anti-gun groups. John Rosenthal, President of the AHSA Foundation, is a former member of Sarah Brady’s Handgun Control, Inc, and is leader of Stop Handgun Violence, a Massachusetts anti-gun group that has contributed to that state’s intolerant anti-gun guns.
Just as Mr. Obamas record of claiming he is in favor of the Second Amendment even as he pushes for gun ban is dishonest, so is this endorsement from a trojan horse gun control organization masquerading as a group that respects American’s rights to life and liberty.
This endorsement is just one more piece of evidence that we should verify all claims made by those who want our votes.
Feel free to use.
19 posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:06:08 PM by mnehrling
posted on 05/19/2008 5:37:02 PM PDT
(I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.)
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