Skip to comments.AP: U.S. appeals court rules that paper money discriminates against the blind.
Posted on 05/20/2008 7:37:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
AP: U.S. appeals court rules that paper money discriminates against the blind. Breaking News on CNN
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This smells like the appeals court in CA.
Yup. I;ll bet it’s the Ninth Circus.
I can’t see how this is true.
Didn’t you watch the movie ‘Ray’? He had to get paid all in singles.
But seriously, I think it is quite hard on the blind. I mean, it would have to be.
Would you want to accept money from a cashier if you couldn’t see what they just gave you.
Using that logic, faux leather shoes discriminate too!
Not to mention cubic zirconia.
Baseball cards too.
Wouldn’t braille identifiers wear over time?
And who is to stop someone from imitating the braille identifiers once they are in place? Just asking. I would love to make life easier for the blind, but in the end, the problem will remain, only in a different form IMO.
First of all, I can definitely tell the difference between genuine and faux leather. Who can’t?
Secondly, there is absolutely no feasible or pragmatic way for a blind person to tell what denominations are passing through his hands.
Would you like to be constantly forced to take the word of any random stranger when it came to your money?
Braille identifiers do wear over time, but not as fast as the currency is taken out of circulation. Several countries have gone to identifiers for the blind, and it was almost no expense to do it. This is the subject of several documentaries on how currency is printed.
Braille identifiers won’t work well. 1) they would get worn down in use, 2) it would be too easy to counterfeit the braille and cheat a blind person. Instead, blind people use money readers for paper currency and credit and debit cards.
My big question is, “who still uses cash??”
>>>I cant see how this is true.
I can understand the ruling. For several years I worked in a legal division at the state capitol. The first day at lunch I handed the cafeteria lady a banknote and a co-workers pointed at her own eyes, telling me this was a blind person. I had to tell the lunchlady the denomination.
It had never occurred to me before the problem the blind have with all banknotes seeming the same to the touch.
“Wrong knee-jerk, faux leather shoes are not mandatory, however, try to get away with using another currency.”
What is stopping them from using coins?
Not sure if you mean "using current money" or under any circumstances, but in some countries different denominations are different sizes, just as coins are here.
I dread the idea of living in a ‘cashless’ society. Would you really want EVERYTHING you purchase being scrutinized by whoever?
Wait... oops... nevermind.
Paper or coins is irrelevant. They still have to trust the cashier to tell them what the total is. They’re blind. I’m sorry. Get over it.
Sure, they'd go on there, but they'd be off in a few days of normal handling.
And imagine the counterfeiting opportunities. Take Ones, punch in Hundreds, pass them among the blind.
A thiefs dream ~ get rich by stealing, and plunder the handicapped.
What more could you want eh.
Actually there are many, many services for the blind. Contact the National Federation for the Blind or your regional Lighthouse for the Blind office to get started.
“Would you want to accept money from a cashier if you couldnt see what they just gave you.”
Every bill has a different thickness (at least they did 30+ years ago) and the blind can learn to tell the difference by feel.
There used to be a blind man that ran a snack and candy stand in the enterance o a 13 story building in L.A.that could tell what bill you gave him and be able to make change.
I’ve seen people try to cheat him and they never got away with it, He would ask a 3rd person to verify what bill he had been given and he never missed.
Money in the US is subject to far more handling by machinery than foreign currencies. Braille will wear out in a few passes here.
It's much easier to counterfeit the feel of money than the look.
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The opinion was written by Judith Rogers, a Clinton appointee. She was joined by Thomas Griffith, a GW Bush appointee. Dissenting was Arthur Raymond Randolph, a GHW Bush appointee.
Basically, the opinion affirms the district court's judgment that the current system violates the federal Rehabilitation Act. Treasury failed to show that the system could not be revamped to use different sized paper currency as is done in other countries.
Get ready for teeny tiny single dollar bills.
I would have thought the same, unless of course one actually reads the article before commenting. How much did you want to bet?
You've got to be pretty low down to steal from the blind. In my city, the state runs a blind school. At the blind school, they teach the blind all sorts of pretty practical stuff. One guy, who is a graduate of the blind school and an Indianapolis staple, always sells hand made brooms, usually on one particular street corner. About six or seven years ago, I bought a broom from him. I remember it well; it cost $17. I gave him a $20, told him so, and he gave me three singles in return. He kept the bills in different pockets--singles in one, fives in another, tens in still another, etc.
Anyhow, the local paper ran a human interest story on the guy and one of the questions they asked him was how often he got ripped off. He said almost never. He figured that most people just didn't have the heart to scam a blind guy.
Good broom, by the way.
So they should add braile to bills; it might have the added benefit of making it harder to counterfit. Dual purpose.
What’s next?! Requesting any amount of “money” over $100 discriminates against poor people?
Your sense of smell’s not good. It was Washington D.C.
I'm still having trouble with 3-D ~ my eyes are simply not reporting the world to me correctly, and may not ever do so.
Still, 2-D is better than nothing, or having eyes so sensitive to light that nothing can be seen.
There are, in fact, others here speaking from their own experience, or have worked with blind folks enough that they have a good understanding of what's going on.
Other countries I have visited have different sized bills for different denominations. This would probably be the best route to go.
Indianapolis has one of America’s lower crime rates. Now, try that in downtown Detroit. Plenty of people there willing to scam the blind, or just beat ‘em up and take all their stuff anyway.
They also have different colors, different pictures, and so on.
They have a reduced amount of mechanized money handling too.
There's really no reason we need to issue "currency" as paper. We could simply punch out $100 coins for example.
I am very sorry you have problems with vision and very happy you can see.
When I read the headline, I thought it was the Onion. The government cannot make everything equal for everyone. This is ridiculous.
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I forgot about the different sized currency until I read this story. And I did like it alot. It makes it alot easier, ever for those who can see!
My thought also. Radio discriminates against deaf people. Hollywood discriminates against fat people. The list goes on.
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