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PC Run Amok: UK Cops Bust Teen For Calling Scientology a Cult
DBKP ^ | May 19, 2008 | Ginn

Posted on 05/20/2008 3:00:19 PM PDT by mondoreb

Cruise Giving the Scientology Salute

Tom Cruise Giving the Scientology "Salute"

If there's any doubt that the enforcement of political correctness in the U.K. is turning ordinary citizens into criminals, a 15-yr-old youth was issued a criminal summons after he had written on a sign that Scientology was a cult.

Police confiscated his protest sign at a demonstration against the Church of Scientology at their headquarters in London and then issued him a criminal summons. According to the British newspaper the Guardian, the 15-yr-old had written on a sign: "Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult". The police called it "abusive and insulting".

Just who was abusive and insulting?

The unnamed 15-yr-old boy stood his ground and quoted a 1984 High Court ruling by Justice Lahey in which the justice described the religion as "corrupt, sinister, and dangerous".

We agree. We find the fact that anyone could face a criminal proceeding for calling Scientology a cult abusive, insulting, and sinister.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; cult; dangerouscult; firstamendment; freespeech; notreligion; pc; scientology
Even though Britain doesn't have a Bill of Rights, the concept of Free Speech is historically strong in the UK. But, with ruling such as this, for how much longer?
1 posted on 05/20/2008 3:00:20 PM PDT by mondoreb
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To: mondoreb
1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!
2 posted on 05/20/2008 3:02:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Good one! I’ll have to remember that.


3 posted on 05/20/2008 3:06:15 PM PDT by LegendHasIt (Noone/Nohow '08)
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To: mondoreb

http://tinyurl.com/69hyd


4 posted on 05/20/2008 3:06:35 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: mondoreb
Meanwhile, over in The Netherlands, the authorities are arresting cartoonists for insulting Muslims.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2018846/posts

The charge is thoughtcrime. And all will be found guilty.

5 posted on 05/20/2008 3:07:31 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mondoreb
Islamic terrorists gang rape, stab, and auction off English folks - no problem.
Calling Scientologists a cult ====> Criminal action - go to jail.


The barometer of England's final demise continues to plummet.

6 posted on 05/20/2008 3:10:54 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: mondoreb
Tom Cruise Giving the Scientology "Salute"

Tom Cruise is sick.

7 posted on 05/20/2008 3:12:15 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Diogenesis
British Soldiers
8 posted on 05/20/2008 3:13:09 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: mondoreb

I wonder if these thought police realize they are creating a new black market for a new type of pornography? Let’s call it political pornography. There may even be good money in it someday.


9 posted on 05/20/2008 3:13:28 PM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: mondoreb

We are seeing the fruits of political correctness . The tyranny of the majority is an insidious disease . We need to emphasis the individual right to call a belief you do not agree with a cult and the right of cult members to practice their unorthodox beliefs . No , I am not talking about child molesters or other criminal acts .


10 posted on 05/20/2008 3:14:42 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!"

That's tagline material right there! Do you mind if people use it?

11 posted on 05/20/2008 3:15:18 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: redstateconfidential

"Our new Islamic and Iranian overlords have promised us so much. I love them."

12 posted on 05/20/2008 3:17:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: mondoreb

“PC Run Amok”

It hasn’t run anywhere. It is doing exactly what it is supposed to do.


13 posted on 05/20/2008 3:21:20 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: mondoreb
"...We agree. We find the fact that anyone could face a criminal proceeding for calling Scientology a cult abusive, insulting, and sinister."

If he was talking about Islam he could get his throat cut. The West needs to show it has the sense to survive.

14 posted on 05/20/2008 3:22:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mojito

...and of course Bridgette Bardoux is on trial in France for insulting Muslims, Mark Steyn in on trial before the Canadian Human Rights Commission for the same charge, and David Irving is serving a 3 year jail term in Austria for his (erroneous) viewpoints - denying the Holocaust. We rarely stop to think about how unusual our near-absolute First Amendment right of free speech is...in fact there’s nothing like it anywhere else in the world that I’m aware of.


15 posted on 05/20/2008 3:23:35 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: mojito

...and of course Bridgette Bardoux is on trial in France for insulting Muslims, Mark Steyn in on trial before the Canadian Human Rights Commission for the same charge, and David Irving is serving a 3 year jail term in Austria for his (erroneous) viewpoints - denying the Holocaust. We rarely stop to think about how unusual our near-absolute First Amendment right of free speech is...in fact there’s nothing like it anywhere else in the world that I’m aware of.


16 posted on 05/20/2008 3:23:39 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile
...and of course Bridgette Bardoux is on trial in France for insulting Muslims, Mark Steyn in on trial before the Canadian Human Rights Commission for the same charge, and David Irving is serving a 3 year jail term in Austria for his (erroneous) viewpoints - denying the Holocaust. We rarely stop to think about how unusual our near-absolute First Amendment right of free speech is...in fact there’s nothing like it anywhere else in the world that I’m aware of.

worth repeating (again)
17 posted on 05/20/2008 3:27:28 PM PDT by jjw
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To: mondoreb
Is Tom Cruise actually taller than someone?


18 posted on 05/20/2008 3:35:00 PM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: mondoreb

Actually, I think we tend to forget how much our Freedom of Speech separates us from other countries, even the UK. Let’s not forget that the press is still pretty much contained there also.


19 posted on 05/20/2008 3:39:01 PM PDT by youturn (I'm learning to draw a fish. I suggest you do too.)
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To: mondoreb
"Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult". The police called it "abusive and insulting".

At the very least, the undeniable fact that what this young man's sign says is the truth should be the first defense. What can you expect when any public criticism of Islam is immediately suppressed both here and, to an even greater extent, in UK. While Islam does not fit most definitions of a cult (for one, there are many divisions in Islam -- you also have mainstreaming by numbers). Islam cannot be held to be a good thing by purely objective measures -- number of sanctioned killings, support for oppressive theocracies, opposition to science and the benefits to people it brings, etc. Islam has most effectively stifled free speech. Now Scientology??

20 posted on 05/20/2008 3:41:30 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: mondoreb

What is truly disturbing - Scientology IS a cult - by every single definition.


21 posted on 05/20/2008 3:54:34 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Lx
Is Tom Cruise actually taller than someone?

Everyone is taller than Tom Daschle.

22 posted on 05/20/2008 3:59:59 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: mondoreb

Hasn’t at least one EU member state declared Scientology a cult? Germany perhaps?


23 posted on 05/20/2008 4:01:17 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: KoRn; mondoreb
That's tagline material right there! Do you mind if people use it?

Yes I do! I'm copyrighting that tagline.

24 posted on 05/20/2008 4:06:39 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual! ©)
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To: mondoreb

I will never make fun of France again.

England is the new synonym for appeasement and cowardice.


25 posted on 05/20/2008 4:07:43 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

lol!!


26 posted on 05/20/2008 4:28:52 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: All; y'all; no one in particular
So you have questions about Scientology...
27 posted on 05/20/2008 4:47:30 PM PDT by null and void (The one word of Chinese our congress really understands is 'kowtow')
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To: mondoreb

Britain is dying, and not with a bang, but a whimper. Her epitaph is simple: She hated herself too much to contimue living.


28 posted on 05/20/2008 5:15:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Diogenesis

Thats just painful....


29 posted on 05/20/2008 5:27:42 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: mondoreb

Any person who does not think of Scientology as a cult has a problem with reality. This is insane. Arrest someone for the truth.


30 posted on 05/20/2008 6:38:27 PM PDT by therut
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To: SteamShovel

>> Tom Cruise is sick.

Please report to the police, don’t make them come after you ;)


31 posted on 05/20/2008 8:33:53 PM PDT by old-and-old
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To: mondoreb

“... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any
government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one MAKES them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
......just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted — and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

- p.411,
Ayn Rand, ATLAS SHRUGGED, Signet Books, NY, 1957


32 posted on 05/20/2008 8:42:57 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: mondoreb

“But, with ruling such as this, for how much longer?”

What ‘ruling’?

There hasn’t been a ruling, nor even a prosecution.

The police have filed a report with the CPS. I’d wager fairly confidently that it doesn’t go to court. Over reaction by individual members of the police. Followed by the usual over reaction fron FR posters.


33 posted on 05/21/2008 1:17:52 AM PDT by UKTory
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