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Is 55 in Our Future?
American Spectator ^ | 5/23/2008 | Eric Peters

Posted on 05/23/2008 10:23:11 AM PDT by Entrepreneur

If there's one thing that's worse than paying $4 per gallon for gasoline, it's the resurgent talk of lowering speed limits to conserve fuel.

Because, of course, these lowered limits won't be enforced as a "conservation" measure.

Any curtailment of speed limits will be treated as a saaaaafety issue -- just as happened during the Dark Decades of the 55 mph National Maximum Speed Limit. "Speeding" tickets will be issued and "points" assigned. At the stroke of a lawmaker's pen (and the cop's, too) driving "x" MPH will suddenly become "unsafe," rather than merely wasteful.

This is the most intolerable aspect of the whole scam.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 55mph; energy; gasoline; speedlimit
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1 posted on 05/23/2008 10:23:11 AM PDT by Entrepreneur
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To: Entrepreneur

“Is 55 in Our Future?”

That and perhaps 10 hour work days / 4 days per week might help.


2 posted on 05/23/2008 10:25:01 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: Grunthor

““Is 55 in Our Future?”

That and perhaps 10 hour work days / 4 days per week might help.”

The latter would be more effective than the former.


3 posted on 05/23/2008 10:25:54 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Entrepreneur

Oh, how well I remember! Back at that time I was traveling 75 miles a day to work and back. At 55MPH on the interstate it seemed to take for ever. Especially, since I was working 6 to 7 days a week, 11 & 12 hrs a day.


4 posted on 05/23/2008 10:27:33 AM PDT by jerry639
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To: Grunthor
10 hour work days / 4 days per week might help

I'd actually like that better then 8 X 5. Gives me a whole extra day off to drive up to the mountains and go fishing...:)

5 posted on 05/23/2008 10:28:07 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Entrepreneur
The 55 MPH nonsense was foisted upon us just as I started driving. Idaho has 75 MPH on the interstates. Distances between cities is significant. Dropping to 55 MPH is going to make some of those trips much longer (in driving time). The Pocatello to San Diego trip would be significantly extended. An overnight stay in a hotel would almost certainly be required.
6 posted on 05/23/2008 10:28:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Grunthor

I already drive 55. That’s as fast as my Yugo will go.


7 posted on 05/23/2008 10:28:35 AM PDT by llevrok (I have nut allergies. Liberals make me sick.)
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To: Entrepreneur

One foot on the brake and one on the gas, hey!...


8 posted on 05/23/2008 10:28:45 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Entrepreneur

And the biggest benefit of 55 that nobody dare mention:

Municipal Revenue Generation


9 posted on 05/23/2008 10:28:57 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Entrepreneur

More on this:

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/05/with-gas-prices.html


10 posted on 05/23/2008 10:29:01 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: Domandred

“I’d actually like that better then 8 X 5. Gives me a whole extra day off to drive up to the mountains and go fishing...:)”

it is your time, your gas and with any luck at all....your fish ;O)


11 posted on 05/23/2008 10:29:40 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: Entrepreneur

” I can’t drive 55!” (BIG SMILE)
Sammy Hagar


12 posted on 05/23/2008 10:29:58 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Grunthor
That and perhaps 10 hour work days / 4 days per week might help.

My wife already does that. I typically work 12 hours/6 days per week, but it's all at my home office. I put it 56 hours M-Th of this week.

13 posted on 05/23/2008 10:30:14 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Entrepreneur

I have a feeling we will be hearing (hopefully that’s all) a lot more about a return to 55. This topic was covered in the op/ed page of my local rag today.


14 posted on 05/23/2008 10:30:51 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: ConservaTexan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfNATuw1DRs


15 posted on 05/23/2008 10:31:12 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Entrepreneur
and "points" assigned

To be fair, many states did not charge points between 56-70(or so) mph.

FWIW, personally, I'd prefer 4-day, 10-hour work weeks (for the 40-hour scheduled, anyways).
16 posted on 05/23/2008 10:31:16 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Entrepreneur

Didn’t care then will not care in the future.


17 posted on 05/23/2008 10:32:56 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Entrepreneur

Just another law created to generate income for the lawyers...


18 posted on 05/23/2008 10:33:26 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: llevrok

I already drive 55. I also keep my heat/AC completely off. I never did either of those things prior to about two months ago. I went from averaging 325 miles to a tank of gas (4 dr sedan) to over 400 miles. I also top off my tank before it hits 1/2. Shop locally, I walk to the store two blocks away rather than drive a 40 mile round trip to (unless there is a really good sale) Safeway. I am hoping to have my car paid off before gas hits $6 per gallon....because that extra $400 per month can just go into my tank.


19 posted on 05/23/2008 10:33:44 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: Entrepreneur

And indoor temperatures will be regulated to over 80 degrees in the summer and under 62 in the winter.


20 posted on 05/23/2008 10:34:03 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Entrepreneur
While I don't think the government should mandate it. I do believe everyone should slow down a bit and exercise some sanity.

I am amused at the number of NASCAR wannabes I see on my daily commute. From my seat in the right lane I get to see them all act like genuine assholes behind the wheel. Funny thing is that it buys them, at the most, a few seconds, maybe a couple minutes, but nothing worth risking their, or anyone else's, life for. The idea of commuting is to get from point A to point B in one piece, not to see how much excitement you can gin up for everyone else along the way. No one is indestructible.

Sorry, but negligence behind the wheel is just one of my pet peeves.

21 posted on 05/23/2008 10:34:21 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Entrepreneur

How high does the price have to get for the public to demand opening exploration adn drilling in the continental U.S., Alaska and the coasts of Florida and California?


22 posted on 05/23/2008 10:34:27 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Entrepreneur

Another Jimmy Carter (albeit a black one this time) and the 55 mph limit?

What’s next? Another hostage crisis?


23 posted on 05/23/2008 10:35:14 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Entrepreneur

I know how the Federal government forced the states to lower the speed limits, but tell me this, how can they force to to enforce the limit?

What if they only write tickets for speeds above 75mph?


24 posted on 05/23/2008 10:35:29 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Entrepreneur

If not 0 mph, they should try for 35 mph. MUCH safer.


25 posted on 05/23/2008 10:35:47 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Myrddin

I have worked 10 hour shifts and the 3 day weekends were great. I also worked 12 hour shifts, 4 days one week/3 days the next. Those get tiring but you wind up with around two weeks a month...at home with family rather than at work or burning money while sitting in “rush hour” traffic. The extra time where the kids would have (hopefully) both mom AND Dad home....could only be a good thing for the strength of our families.


26 posted on 05/23/2008 10:37:57 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: Entrepreneur
A couple of points:

1. Try driving from Dallas to El Paso at 55 mph. Once you get out of the Metroplex there is virtually nothing for 600 miles.

2. This will rile the average citizen as much, if not more, than "comprehensive immigration reform".

Most every congresscritter, save for those in the liberal Northeast, will be committing career suicide by advocating the double nickel.

27 posted on 05/23/2008 10:39:00 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: Domandred
Gives me a whole extra day off to drive up to the mountains and go fishing - Now that is what I call priorities!
28 posted on 05/23/2008 10:39:21 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Grunthor
I also keep my heat/AC completely off.

During the winter, running the heater can slightly improve efficiency of a gasoline or diesel engine by increasing the heat rate. Very different from the A/C which adds load with the compressor. The fan is negligible compared to improved heat rejection.

29 posted on 05/23/2008 10:39:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Entrepreneur

Cue Sammy Haggar.


31 posted on 05/23/2008 10:40:38 AM PDT by Be_Politically_Erect (Conservative from birth...Republican no more.)
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To: F15Eagle

They sure aren’t fair nor honest in cheese country. To all who have to travel in Packer country avoid Rosendale on 26 - a city built around a speed trap.


32 posted on 05/23/2008 10:41:07 AM PDT by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. And greatly missing President Reagan)
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To: Entrepreneur

will they exempt my cycle? I can get plenty of MPG’s going 80+.

it’s really a two-fer. higher taxes via tickets for misc infractions after they stop you for speeding.

good times... :(


33 posted on 05/23/2008 10:41:10 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: P8riot

I think cell phone drivers are worse than the NASCAR wannabes.


34 posted on 05/23/2008 10:41:24 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Myrddin

“Idaho has 75 MPH on the interstates. Distances between cities is significant.”

Back during the stupid speed limit times I was somewhere in Wyoming or Montana doing 80 on a lonely highway in the middle of nowhere when Cadillac came roaring up behind me, slowed then passed. A cowboy was driving with the seat all the way back, his left leg hanging out the window resting on the side mirror. He had one hand on the wheel and tipped his hat to me as he blew on down the road doing at least 100.

That’s when I realized how folks who live out there deal with the the vast distances.


35 posted on 05/23/2008 10:41:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Entrepreneur

To your Santayana quote I add this (see tagline.)


36 posted on 05/23/2008 10:42:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." Mark Twain, 1866)
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To: thackney

“During the winter, running the heater can slightly improve efficiency of a gasoline or diesel engine by increasing the heat rate.”

Well I did just start doing this a couple months ago and when winter hits I do plan on using the heat again. Thank you for putting to rest any doubts that I or anyone reading this thread may have had about the efficiency issue, I had no idea.


37 posted on 05/23/2008 10:42:23 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: thackney

I’d like to see you do that in TX, in the summer.


38 posted on 05/23/2008 10:42:53 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Entrepreneur

Oh great, rather than actually doing something to solve our energy problems, we’re thinking about changing the rules to give our government MORE of our money with which to rule over us. Because that is all this amounts to ... revenue from speeding tickets.


39 posted on 05/23/2008 10:43:21 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Grunthor

I used to drive some clunkers. Having a problem with the engine cooling like closed off tubes in the radiator could be compensated by running the heater full blast, as long as you got some coolant circulation. Not so bad in a cold winter, a lot less fun in July.


40 posted on 05/23/2008 10:46:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Entrepreneur

As we go away from gasoline for our cars, we go away from a federal gas tax. Meaning that the federal government cannot strong arm states to enact laws that the feds are constitutionally prohibited from passing.


41 posted on 05/23/2008 10:46:38 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: relictele

It was a Nixon edict, hence forever branding a pair of 5’s as “Nixon’s Revenge”


42 posted on 05/23/2008 10:47:11 AM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: llevrok

Try the Me-go, it gets 17 trillion MPG city driving, only one gear and max’s out at 24 MPH. Great stuff!


43 posted on 05/23/2008 10:47:20 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: relictele
"Another hostage crisis?"

Yes ... and the hostages are us. Hostage to an increasingly inept government that we keep on electing because doing something differently is just too frightening for most folks.

45 posted on 05/23/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rahbert

roll up the windows and it doubles as a steam bath

Good luck seeing out the windshield though...


46 posted on 05/23/2008 10:48:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: llevrok
I already drive 55. That’s as fast as my Yugo will go.

You got a Yugo to go 55? You should contact the Guinness Book of World Records.

47 posted on 05/23/2008 10:48:32 AM PDT by library user
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Before anyone suggests we do this for safety, they should notice the declining trend in deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled. Today, the death rate is far below what it was during those dark days.

Moreover, nobody seems to care for the lives saved by the faster speeds. In my personal commute, I save several minutes a day at the higher limit, and the minutes add up to well over an hour of additional time per month.

We cannot conserve our way to prosperity especially by zero-sum thinking disguised as conservation. Remember: American is the land of Opportunity, not Limits.

48 posted on 05/23/2008 10:49:11 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Grunthor
I also keep my heat/AC completely off.

You live in a state where one can get away with that.

I don't see people in Fairbanks going without heat, or people in Houston without A/C...

49 posted on 05/23/2008 10:51:19 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Night Hides Not
I drive a big truck, and all my speeders (yep, got a couple of 'em ..) were in relatively open road (I consider traffic spread every 10 or 20 car lengths as open) doing 65 or 70 in a (IMO wrongly marked) 55 zone.

All the 4 wheelers are doin' 65/70 and us big trucks get pulled over for doing the same.

Any driver knows this one.

"Prevailing flow of traffic" isn't a viable defense. 90% of the time you can plead it down to an "improper equipment" or "seat belt" charge for a reduced fine and no points ... but there is the occasional Dudley Do-Right that doesn't budge (The court always asks if the officer will agree to __________ ).

Time is taken out of a man's day to appear in an oft-times far away court and etc., etc.

No unsafe driving, no accidents .. just speeders ... sigh.

Revenue enhancement, indeed.

50 posted on 05/23/2008 10:52:54 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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