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AP IMPACT: What makes up the price of gas?
Associated Press ^
| May 23, 2008
| John Porretto
Posted on 05/23/2008 12:59:00 PM PDT by decimon
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posted on
05/23/2008 12:59:03 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: decimon
The role that speculators play in the market and their effect on the price of oil can be found here:
Blame The Speculators!
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:03:21 PM PDT
by
tcostell
(MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
To: decimon
But wait: The oil companies don't set the price of oil or the cost of a gallon of gas.
If only the media would tell the sheeple this more often.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:12:41 PM PDT
by
chaos_5
To: tcostell
Divide $131.90 by 42 (no. of gallons in barrel) which equals $3.14 of the $3.89 we pay at the pump, add the state and federal taxes of approximately $.36 which brings it to $3.50 out of the $3.89 we pay at the pump. Out of the remaining $.50 the oil companies have to refine it and pay salaries. Whatever is left over is “profit”. Now you tell me how they're raping us at the pump.
It's so simple a caveman could do it. What's wrong with Congress? Are any of them smarter than a 5th grader??? I'm thinking the folks running the country may need remedial math. It was my poorest subject, but even I get it.
How simple do you have to make it. Less supply/greater demand from emerging economies who are bidding up the price because in order to maintain their economic growth they must have it and suddenly (when combined with a weakening dollar) you have critical mass. These “pinches” can't be managed to occur when you're prepared for them. We can do a lot in America, but I'm thinking that's beyond even our ability.
To: chaos_5
“Out of the remaining $.39...” I told you math wasn’t my strong point (she sheepishly admits).
To: Constitutions Grandchild
And it is actually less than 39 cents. The gas station sells if for 3.89, but paid about 3.75 to 3.80 for it.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:18:02 PM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
To: Phantom Lord
Sometimes I just shake my head. My boys call me “Gracie Allen” but I swear — give me a pointer with a rubber tip or a ruler, and I would start rapping knuckles in Congress. One whooshing motion with a hard snap on their desks and I’d get their attention. Let me at ‘em.
To: decimon
Good article! Thanks for posting.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:21:15 PM PDT
by
caver
(Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
To: tcostell
Intresting how everyone is busy looking for scapegoats but never ever blame the Fed and State Govts that make over $1.00 in direct and indirect taxes on every single gallon for anything
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:24:27 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
To: caver
Good article!Impossible! It's from AP. ;-)
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:26:46 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: Constitutions Grandchild
add the state and federal taxes of approximately $.36 Absolutely false. Depending on where you live the State tax is anywhere from $.46 to $.73 a gallon then the Feds add an additional $.18 Fed gas tax on top of that then there is the indirect taxes, such as property taxes, corporate income taxes etc, the Oil Companies pay that get added on to of that. What the Govt gets is anywhere from 20-35% of the cost of each and every gallon of gas.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:28:36 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
To: MNJohnnie
That may well be. I truly have a minuscule amount of information on the taxation. I did work in-house legal department at a spot-trading company for 20 years. It makes my point even more so. How the heck they make any money at all is beyond me (which is probably why I'm not in-house anymore). After the 1970s it became harder and harder to make a buck in the business. I took what I heard was the average.
So, tell me, since you seem to have more information than I, when the oil companies sell it to the filling stations, do the filling stations pay the $.18 fed gas tax and the average $.60 state tax? Even when we owned our own retail stores (back in the day) they were money losers. I realize it's volume of sales that makes it possible at all, but how can any of them make a profit (and invest in R&D)?
To: Constitutions Grandchild
This is from 2005 it is way out of date because a number of these states have raised their gas tax since.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:48:19 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
To: decimon
In the first quarter of this year, based on a retail price of gas that now seems like a steal $3.11 a gallon crude oil accounted for all but about a dollar, or 70 percent, of the cost, according to the federal government.There is no reason to believe that that statement is not equally applicable today.
But educating the moonbats here in FR and elsewhere is like fertilizing a rock.
Too complicated maybe?
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:50:11 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
To: Constitutions Grandchild
The Oil Companies make about $.10 a gallon. The person selling the gas probably makes nothing. The gas is merely the attaction to get the people to come into the store and pay the 50% or more mark up on the stuff in the store. They make their money on the stuff they sell inside, not on the gas.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:51:26 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
To: MNJohnnie
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:52:09 PM PDT
by
WOBBLY BOB
(Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
To: tcostell
Blaming the speculators is the dumbest red herring. We certainly have no control over the speculators worldwide, even if our government shot every American speculator in existence today.
The difference would be zip.
So what's the point of repeating that asinine fact?
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:52:22 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
To: MNJohnnie
oops, I seen you beat me to the map
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:52:57 PM PDT
by
WOBBLY BOB
(Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
To: MNJohnnie
Intresting how everyone is busy looking for scapegoats but never ever blame the Fed and State Govts that make over $1.00 in direct and indirect taxes on every single gallon for anything Bears repeating.
The criminals in Congress would rather we keep talking about the "big bad oil companies"... as is the intellectual bottom of our gene pool.
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:55:08 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
To: Constitutions Grandchild
Actually the amount of gasoline in a barrel of oil is only about 25 gallons, the remaining 40% in made into other products - diesel, jet fuel, fuel oils, etc. Assuming that the production costs are relatively equal for all content of the barrel, the $3.14 per gallon might still be the valid starting point for your analysis. You just need more barrels for a given quantity of gasoline.
ref:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_wiup_dcu_nus_w.htm
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posted on
05/23/2008 1:55:31 PM PDT
by
hotshu
(My eye hurts dammit!)
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