Posted on 05/24/2008 1:11:10 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
Let me go out on another limb here and make another crazy prediction. Within 10 years, clergy will be sued or indicted for preaching on certain Bible passages dealing with homosexuality and churches, and church-related organizations will lose government contracts and even their tax-exempt status.
The California judges also ruled, for the first time in American legal history, that sexual orientation is just like race.
The California court just declared that those of us who see marriage as the union of husband and wife are the legal equivalent of racists. And openly racist groups and individuals can be denied government benefits because of their views, including professional licenses (attorney, physicians, psychiatrists, marriage counselors), accredited schools, and tax-exempt status for charities.
In Massachusetts, the first same-sex-marriage state, Catholic Charities, one of the state's largest adoption agencies, was forced out of business because it refused to arrange adoptions for same-sex couples. In New Jersey, a Methodist group lost part of its state real estate tax exemption because it refused to permit civil-union ceremonies on church-owned property.
Fortunately California voters will have a chance to overturn this radical decision by voting for a state marriage amendment in November. Shouldn't voters in Pennsylvania have the same right?
According to a recent Precision Marketing survey, two-thirds of Pennsylvanians support a constitutional marriage amendment, and three-fifths say they would be more likely to reelect their legislator if he or she voted for the marriage amendment.
California has just given Pennsylvania legislators a wake-up call. If legislators say they are for marriage and don't vote to protect it, they will contribute to the end of marriage, a decline of the family, more children being raised without dads, and a deep erosion of our freedom of religion. Hey, at least they won't be called bigots.
(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...
Rick Santorum is a fine man. The Senate was diminished when he left.
Sour grapes here from Santorum - divorce made too easy, the “me” society, societal acceptance of divorce - this has all caused incalculable harm to marriage as an institution already. I know - I’m the product of a broken home (sob).
How conservatives strain the gnat of homosexual marriage while swallowing the camel of heterosexual divorce smacks of double standards.
Not much of a limb there. Hate crimes and hate speech are already against the law in many places.
Day by day, minute by minute, law by law, we are gradually losing all of our rights and freedoms. What really saddens me is that I see many here on Free Republic willingly giving up those rights and Freedoms because the law is going after a group, sin or crime that they personally don't like.
Smart people get this.
You’re right in the fact that the institution of marriage has been trivialized by no-fault divorce.
Polygamy, bestiality, necrophilia, paedophilia ?
Wow - we have civil unions for homosexual couples in Britain (and have had for a few years), but there’s been no attempt to legislate these 4 deviancies.
Is America really that different ?
Are you sure about your sources - can you link to any ? This concerns me greatly, if what you say is true. Might mean it’s possible in Britain as we have same-sex marriage already.
Yuk !!
It took the hard realities of the social effects of no fault divorce a couple decades to really manifest themselves. Get back with me then and tell me how the gay marriage thing is working out for you. If you are allowed to discuss it, that is.
anything we vote for in California is of no consequence if it is of a conservative ilk. it will only be overturned by some judge.
California is going the way of Canada..just a matter of time before clergy speaking out against homosexuality is considered a hate crime.
Oh, I’m allowed to discuss gay marriage - it’s a source of pride in many parts of Britain, believe it or not.
I’ll keep an eye open for those other 4 deviancies you mention - can’t be too careful.
Things that need to be addressed along with this gay marriage issue because it's my belief it's all tied into the same evil vein.
Well said and so true. Divorce wreaks far more havoc on kids' lives than the homosexual "agenda".
This is about homosexuals "marrying," not heterosexual marriages ending in divorce.
I see the link - especially when pundits roll out the “damage to marriage” card.
Appears a few other FReepers on this thread agree with me
“Things that need to be addressed along with this gay marriage issue because it’s my belief it’s all tied into the same evil vein.”
Of course it is. Unfortunately, adultery and fornication have become the norm in American culture and it is going to take a miracle to change that line of thinking. Currently therr are more couples cohabiting than married in America.
On the other hand, the homosexuality issue has not entirely gotten control of American thinking yet. It is still possible at this time to change constitutional law to avoid “legal” recognition of this perversion. Once courts rule, people become complient quickly. If legislative or constitutional change is going to be done to correct Judicial error, it has to be done now before folks get too used to homosexuals being “married.”
lotsa Moslems and no push for polygamy? You’re not paying attention.
Heck, if there was an elephant in my room I’d probably marry it.
Then divorce it.
Yes, well, the problem you mention is formidable.
No one except the conservatives saw the disaster of “easy divorce” when it became acceptable in the late 60s onward. Instead, they got trampled.
And now I see lots of kids left without fathers, and it is a tragedy.
I think what we’re seeing now is conservatism saying “STOP!”, like Bill Buckley, and refusing to give on this issue. Or else in a generation we’ll see more familial disaster.
If you are from a broken home, I’m sorry: I’ll pray for you. I know it isn’t hard, since I see children from a broken home all the time. And even if you’re an adult it still is a struggle, in relationships, dealing with kids, etc.
Please don’t think a stand against this travesty means we merely wink at another.
Thanks for posting this.
Heck, do you follow developments in Utah and Arizona much? There are huge pockets of polygamy out there that the states won't touch. The press ignores them . . . specifically because the media knows that this would turn off most Americans if they see marriage re-defined.
The issue is freedom and the right of the people to determine what marriage is rather than dictatorial judges. Santorum also touches upon how the homosexual agenda is stripping free speech rights, freedom of religion and freedom of association.
Why don't you wander over to a liberal website if you can't understand all that.
As a product of a broken home - I see the damage of easy divorce.
I think instead of railing against homosexual marriage - we conservatives should be working on tightening up divorce laws. Wasn’t a sacred bond entered into ? Doesn’t God forbid it ?
THAT would have a far bigger impact on strengthening the family.
thank’s for your prayers - I need them !!
Not sure I followed your slavery point, but yes, I have followed the YfZ case very closely, and have recently read a book on the history of Mormonism - it doesn’t make pretty reading.
As I said on another post, the problem with YfZ is that it is up to the authorities to prove abuse - that’s how due process works. They’re doing a lamentable job to date.
Are polygamists really working on legislation to legalise it - I did not know that?
After that, is it your view that necrophilia, paedophilia and bestiality are coming next to a law book near you ?
Your last comment was completely uncalled for - as you’d know if you’d read my posting history.
I note you ignore my point completely and make an unrelated comment about an overreaching judiciary and the homosexual agenda.
Easy divorce has done incalculable damage to families (I know from personal experience - my parents divorced when I was 8 and my sister was 5). Double standards. As conservatives, I wish we’d focus on the area where most damage is being done RIGHT NOW.
If marriage is defined as something other than a union between a man and a women, there is nothing that can ever prevent it from being defined as ANYTHING other than a union between a man and a woman. In short, the only definition of marriage (in a sexual sense) that has legitimacy is a man and woman, and once that is broken down, all other definitions will be inevitable.
Inevitable!!!
But we already have same sex unions in Britain - I truly fear for my children who will likely grow up in a country where bestiality and paedophilia are legal, if what you say is true.
As for pedophilia, keep in mind that in FL in the 1990s, a precedent was already set when a kid "divorced" his parents because they wouldn't give him a Nintendo. So here, the precedent is already laid for claiming that 14, 13, 12-year-olds (and who knows how much younger) are "adults" and "can make their own decisions" (i.e., to sleep with adult men). The fact that something hasn't happened in England, with a much different approach to law, doesn't mean it won't happen here. I think it's in the works. Of course, it can be easily squelched by a simple constitutional amendment defining marriage, which is where all this is headed.
You make an excellent point, like I said before.
I hope you understand what we see happening with the gay marriage issue, too...the equivalence/ease with which “marriage” can be defined will result in a dissolution of its meaningfulness. Much like the ease with which divorce came into vogue.
God bless you, fuzz.
I do - we gotta take a stand somewhere.
Divorce is just such a touchy issue for me.
Thanks again for your prayers.
The only unrelated point was YOUR point about divorce, which had nothing to do with the topic addressed by Santorum. Your tactic is commonly used by homosexual agenda apologists and leftists to deflect attention away from their activities.
Really - well I’m sorry about that - perhaps my background makes me more sensitive to the real damage being done to marriage NOW by heterosexual divorce.
Santorum brought “damage to marriage” up in the article, not me.
Are you ok with liberal divorce laws ?
You’re right. Necrophilia is the new gay.
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