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Immigration Theater
Wall Street Journal ^ | 24 May 2008 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 05/24/2008 3:40:59 PM PDT by shrinkermd

Federal immigration officials raided an Iowa meatpacking plant this month... Nearly 400 of the plant's 900 employees were arrested on immigration charges. Do you feel safer?

Ever since immigration reform died in Congress last year, the Bush Administration has made a show of stepping up enforcement. But do homeland security officials really have nothing better to do than raid businesses that hire willing workers – especially in states like Iowa, where the jobless rate is 3.5%? These immigrants are obviously responding to a labor shortage for certain jobs. Giving them a legal way to enter the country would free up homeland security money and manpower to focus on real threats.

Meanwhile, back in Washington, lawmakers continue to ignore this economic reality and pretend that illegal immigration is nothing more than a law enforcement issue. The good news is that their latest attempt to turn employers into immigration police appears to have stalled.

The Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement Act (SAVE) was introduced by Heath Shuler, a North Carolina Democrat. The bill does nothing to increase legal immigration, which is the only realistic way to decrease illegal immigration. Instead, it throws more money at a mandatory employment verification system (E-Verify) for the nation's six million employers.

The Democrats never intended to pass the measure, mind you. While collecting co-sponsors, Mr. Shuler assured Democrats there would be no action this year.

Rahm Emanuel, the Blue Dog patron in the House leadership, told reporters that a recent Congressional Budget Office report had given him pause. The CBO estimated SAVE would cost more that $30 billion in lost tax revenues and spending because it would increase the number of employers and workers who resort to the black market outside of the tax system.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; congress; freestuff; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mugwhores; save
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1 posted on 05/24/2008 3:41:00 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
and so, the drum beat continues.... driven on the right by pro-business at any cost, sovereignty be damned RINOs and from the left by those who believe "no human is illegal".

It's enough to make me want to throw up when I realize we're going to have "comprehensive immigration reform" whether it's good for the country or not.

2 posted on 05/24/2008 3:53:37 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: shrinkermd

WSJ = Wage Suppression Journal


3 posted on 05/24/2008 3:53:46 PM PDT by Shermy (Nightmares From My Pastor, A Story of Race and Insanity)
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To: Liz; calcowgirl; Calpernia; indylindy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; pissant; SoConPubbie; bcsco; ...


4 posted on 05/24/2008 3:59:38 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

All Pool Boyz to dress in prison orange. It goes with my inflatable ducky... :)


5 posted on 05/24/2008 4:03:03 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You big nut. ROTFLMAO! Geesh, too funny.

I needed a good laugh.


6 posted on 05/24/2008 4:03:46 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: shrinkermd

I am reaffirmed on a regular basis that my cancellation of my WSJ subscription was a good move..


7 posted on 05/24/2008 4:06:31 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: shrinkermd
If this was 1860, the WSJ would be editorializing for letting the South secede because slavery was such a wonderful base of the economy. These kinds economic whores are why the GOP is sliding into oblivion ---just like its predecessor the Whigs!
8 posted on 05/24/2008 4:08:51 PM PDT by texican01
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To: shrinkermd
Do you feel safer?

No, this is an important job and someone competent should really be doing the job of enforcement, not an incompetent fool like certioff.

9 posted on 05/24/2008 4:17:16 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Giving them a legal way to enter the country
_________________________________________

DUH

They already have “a legal way to enter the country”

It’s called IMMIGRATION..

WOW

Wadid I win ???????????


10 posted on 05/24/2008 4:22:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

and Obama is going to continue to build the fence and stop the amnesty train.....not
Looks like that is what you want since there are two candidates.

Since some folks didn’t want the true fighter against illegals, Hunter we have two choices.

Third party always brings in the democrat, only Obama will be the second term of Carter only worse.


11 posted on 05/24/2008 4:29:54 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Tennessee Nana
DUH

They already have “a legal way to enter the country”

It’s called IMMIGRATION...

I honestly can't decide which of the two is the more hysterically falling-down funny, ultimately: the fact that they genuinely seem to believe that we actually don't KNOW that... or the pinched, patrician, put-upon air paid amnesty shills unfailingly affect, while laboriously attempting to "teach" us otherwise. ;)

12 posted on 05/24/2008 4:33:27 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: SoCalPol
Looks like that is what you want

Why waste even a moment of my time on anyone openly admitting to reading for comprehension so spectacularly poorly, then?

13 posted on 05/24/2008 4:35:38 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: shrinkermd

> These immigrants are obviously responding to a labor shortage for certain jobs.<

That’s where I stopped reading.


14 posted on 05/24/2008 4:37:41 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: shrinkermd

The elites at the WSJ don’t want to lose their nannies, landscapers, and pool boys. And they certainly don’t want to see employers fined or jailed for employing illegals, which would solve the problem.


15 posted on 05/24/2008 4:43:23 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Califreak
> These immigrants are obviously responding to a labor shortage for certain jobs.

Isn't this precisely the same rationale liberals have been providing for over four decades now, re: "economically distressed urban youth" and drug pushing...? ;)

16 posted on 05/24/2008 4:43:49 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: shrinkermd

It doesn’t matter whether the workers are “willing”, what matters is that they are “illegal”. What is it about identity theft (and other crimes) that the WSJ doesn’t understand???


17 posted on 05/24/2008 4:51:45 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


18 posted on 05/24/2008 4:59:55 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SoCalPol
I am just praying for a good VP choice by McQueeg, other than that we are so screwed! Even that is small consolation for what we face.
19 posted on 05/24/2008 5:13:31 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hi TN, I have to laugh at the folks who didn’t want to support Duncan Hunter, the only candidate who has the history and currently fighting the illegals and all that goes with it.

Now they whine and try to dig up some third party hack.


20 posted on 05/24/2008 5:14:28 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: shrinkermd; gubamyster; HiJinx
Federal immigration officials raided an Iowa meatpacking plant this month... Nearly 400 of the plant's 900 employees were arrested on immigration charges. Do you feel safer? Ever since immigration reform died in Congress last year, the Bush Administration has made a show of stepping up enforcement. But do homeland security officials really have nothing better to do than raid businesses that hire willing workers – especially in states like Iowa, where the jobless rate is 3.5%? These immigrants are obviously responding to a labor shortage for certain jobs. Giving them a legal way to enter the country would free up homeland security money and manpower to focus on real threats.

Reading that you would never know the owners of the plant were scumbags hiring what amounts to indentured servants.

Biggest immig raid ever much worse than you think

21 posted on 05/24/2008 5:17:15 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: shrinkermd

WSJ—The usual retarded open borders bull from the capitalists without loyalty to America


22 posted on 05/24/2008 5:23:44 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: SoCalPol

BIG SIGH

I still have my Duncan bumper sticker on my car..

Sob..


23 posted on 05/24/2008 5:26:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Do you feel safer?
____________________________________________

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Not yet...

Ask me again when 40,000,000 have been deported...


24 posted on 05/24/2008 5:28:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Rep. Cole is still feeling the love 8 days later. LOL!

http://blog.nrcc.org/comment.cfm?entry_id=400

“Dear Mr. Cole,

If you were serious about helping American families you would reverse the insane government policies that:

—Comsume up 40% of the average middle class family’s income with taxes.

—Transfer much of that tax revenue to special interests — witness the disgusting pork-laden farm bill that so many republican Congressmen approved.

—Increase the cost of food through price supports, the ethanol mandates, etc.

—Increase the cost of energy by prohibiting energy exploration just about anywhere oil and gas deposits are found in the United states.

—Fail to police the borders of the United States.

—Allow unlimited numbers of illegal immigrants to drive down the value of American labor, while allowing illegal immigrants access to public benefits.

—Prevent parents from removing kids from disastrous, unsafe, 100%- education-free school districts, like the Los Angeles Unified School District.

By the way Mr Cole, I notice that nobody from the NRCC has deigned to reply to the thousands of posters on this blog. This alone speaks volumes
about what’s really important to Tom Cole and the NRCC.

Posted: Mike W. - California on May 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM”


25 posted on 05/24/2008 5:33:02 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: dynachrome
Rep. Cole is still feeling the love 8 days later. LOL!

After Juan's baldfaced and unabashed betrayal of their interests, last year: this was so absolutely, positively NOT the issue on which to cross the conservative voting base.

Whole lotta congresscritters are gonna be blinking rapidly, come the evening of 11/04, and whimpering: "... but... but... how in God's name did all of this just happen? I'M A CLOSE, PERSONAL FRIEND OF KARL ROVE, FOR PITY'S SAKE -- !!!" ;)

26 posted on 05/24/2008 5:40:26 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: bill1952

We too, cancelled our subscription to WSJ. They called twice to find out why. They got their ears burned but good.

They just don’t get it. Illegal equals violation of the law. We don’t get to pick and choose among the laws to which we will or will not conform.


27 posted on 05/24/2008 5:45:03 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: shrinkermd
I can't speak for other people with an opinion on immigration I will state right up front that I not only want an end to illegal immigration, but a large cut-back in legal immigration. Back to where they must assimilate instead of going into self-perpetuating ghettos. Back to where American citizens are not being harmed by lost jobs.

Back to where immigration is for benefiting America, and not the world.

28 posted on 05/24/2008 5:57:16 PM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: chesley
I will state right up front that I not only want an end to illegal immigration, but a large cut-back in legal immigration. Back to where they must assimilate instead of going into self-perpetuating ghettos. Back to where American citizens are not being harmed by lost jobs. Back to where immigration is for benefiting America, and not the world.

A-a-a-a-men.

29 posted on 05/24/2008 6:10:47 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"You're arresting me just 'cause I flacked Juan McCain on FRepublic?"

30 posted on 05/24/2008 6:13:44 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: SatinDoll
We don’t get to pick and choose among the laws to which we will or will not conform.

No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.
- Theodore Roosevelt

31 posted on 05/24/2008 6:18:30 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: shrinkermd
Last year May 2 Wall Street Journal editorializes on the need for the immigrant workers, and to relax the opposition to the illegal aliens here.

Further on that issue Joe Morgenstern reviews the movie ‘Waitress’, and in the review conclusion tells us that writer director actress
Adrienne Shelley is brutally murdered by a construction worker at her office. He avoids letting us know the killer is an illegal alien.

32 posted on 05/24/2008 7:00:31 PM PDT by dr huer
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To: shrinkermd
These immigrants are obviously responding to a labor shortage for certain jobs.

BS. I read that the workers were getting $5 an hour. The labor shortage is for workers at that rate. Pay more and plenty of Iowans would be willing to take the jobs.

33 posted on 05/24/2008 7:21:24 PM PDT by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Iowa Caucus. Where were the rest of you so-called conservatives?)
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To: raybbr

Thanks for the link. Disgusting; the feds need to throw the book at Agriprocessors’ management.


34 posted on 05/24/2008 7:24:45 PM PDT by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Iowa Caucus. Where were the rest of you so-called conservatives?)
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To: shrinkermd

Bump for later


35 posted on 05/24/2008 8:38:23 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: shrinkermd
This is a classic Michelle Malkin Hot Air Vent from June 2007.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/07/new-vent-gorilla-warfare-against-the-open-borders-wsj/

Michelle had commented on the WSJ’s no borders policy, they responded about a "Guerrilla" attack.

Michelle then hoists them with a "Gorilla" attack using the WSJ’s own video showing their hypocrisy with an entire editorial board meeting of middle aged white males, with one woman, sitting on the window sill, no place at the table for her, and one black man, no place at the table for him either. But hey, we're the bigots!

36 posted on 05/24/2008 8:57:46 PM PDT by RJL
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To: shrinkermd

The WSJ is horrible they are the Simon Legree’s of the buggy whip industry with a touch of Goebels. Defending a 19th century sweatshop as the model of American prosperity, what scum, what morons.


37 posted on 05/24/2008 10:15:52 PM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So do I.

It’s never coming off!


38 posted on 05/25/2008 6:42:05 AM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: Liz; chesley
I will state right up front that I not only want an end to illegal immigration, but a large cut-back in legal immigration. Back to where they must assimilate instead of going into self-perpetuating ghettos. Back to where American citizens are not being harmed by lost jobs. Back to where immigration is for benefiting America, and not the world.

Easily 60-70% of the legal immigrants we get from Mexico and Central America are as low class and uneducated as the illegal aliens we get

The real disaster is we allow in more legal immigrants from Mexico than anywhere else. Something like 400,000 per year mostly due to "family reunification". 

If I were king of America I would build a border fence, reduce legal/illegal Mexican immigration to zero and allow 400,000 Europeans (real Europeans not Muslims living in Europe) to immigrate here each year with preferences for educated English speakers and those learning English. This was pretty much our immigration policy before the Ted Kennedy immigration acts of 1965 which changed our emphasis on immigration from Europe to immigration from the 3rd world

39 posted on 05/25/2008 7:06:03 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Pre-Hart Celler laws discriminated against southern and eastern Europeans too. Nevertheless, those are some good points. We can’t all be king, however. ;-)


40 posted on 05/25/2008 7:09:05 PM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: Clemenza
Pre-Hart Celler laws discriminated against southern and eastern Europeans too. Nevertheless, those are some good points. We can’t all be king, however. ;-)

Bullcrap! (with all due respect)
If this were true we wouldn't have so many Italians, Polish and Greeks in America. And check out Chicago and the Midwest--- Teaming with Eastern and Central Europeans

41 posted on 05/25/2008 7:18:25 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
WRONG! The laws passed in 1924 STRICTLY RESTRICTED immigration from Southern and Eastern Europe, and favored immigrants from Ireland and the UK. The Poles/Italians/Lugans mostly came BEFORE the 1924 laws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

42 posted on 05/25/2008 7:42:27 PM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: Clemenza

I stand corrected... But the 1924 Immigration act is preferable to the chaotic 3rd world dominated immigration of today which comes from Cellar-Hart-Kennedy

Not to mention the massive illegal immigration that eventually grew from Cellar-Hart-Kennedy


43 posted on 05/25/2008 8:02:42 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

I think most rational people can agree that Kennedy-Hart-Cellar was a mistake. The sad thing is that many who do it privately do not dare do so in public, including many Democrats.


44 posted on 05/25/2008 8:26:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: dennisw

I’m certainly not disagreeing with you. But it will be atacked as RACIST, you know.


45 posted on 05/26/2008 7:19:52 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: dennisw
If I were king of America I would build a border fence, reduce legal/illegal Mexican immigration to zero and allow 400,000 Europeans (real Europeans not Muslims living in Europe) to immigrate here each year with preferences for educated English speakers and those learning English. This was pretty much our immigration policy before the Ted Kennedy immigration acts of 1965 which changed our emphasis on immigration from Europe to immigration from the 3rd world.

Sounds good to me. I get just as rankled by legal immigration as illegal.

Once recent case involved the brutal murders of three legal Korean immigrants (who are touted as hard-working business and professional people). In this case, the Koreans were living in an upscale neighbothood. When L/E came in, they found evidence of extensive ID theft and credit card fraud, huge amounts of cash, and large numbers of casino chips. Seems a young Korean friend did the deed---when apprehended, was found carrying $88K cash, the victims' credit cards and casino chips.

46 posted on 05/26/2008 8:53:03 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: shrinkermd

I will not feel safer til they remove all of the illegal aliens from Southern California.


47 posted on 05/26/2008 8:54:57 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Liz

Legal and illegal immigrants can pursue criminality with more carefree abandon than Americans. Because they know they can always flee back to their homeland and get away with it.

My guess is 95% of the time a criminal immigrant who flees America will get away with it. Never be extradited. Judges encourage this by granting bail in the first place. It’s an invitation to scram


48 posted on 05/26/2008 9:37:54 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Clemenza

I think most rational people can agree that Kennedy-Hart-Cellar was a mistake.....

Maybe 5% of Americans are aware of it and how much this law changed immigration


49 posted on 05/26/2008 9:39:44 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Clemenza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Celler

He was German and Jewish. He wanted more Catholics and Jews to be allowed in. He was a freshman when he saw the 1924 immigration restrictions pass. He worked in Congress for 40+ years to get rid of them. It was his life mission


50 posted on 05/26/2008 9:44:32 AM PDT by dennisw
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