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Texas Authorities, Media Ensure Itís Not Easy Being Mormon
North Star Writers Group ^ | May 26, 2008 | Lucia de Vernai

Posted on 05/26/2008 6:42:47 AM PDT by Dukes Travels

It’s not easy being Mormon. No cursing, no premarital sex, no Mountain Dew. Perpetual good neighbors, their religion – so inherent to their existence – is a mystery even to those of us who have grown up in predominantly Latter Day Saint communities. In fact, most people know Mormons as the demographic that keeps FamilyFlix in business, Chevy Suburbans on the road and children from divorced families feeling cheated.

Thus, it’s a shame that the one opportunity the country may have to get to know the faith is when political spin taints the message. The high hopes that the Mitt Romney campaign would serve as a vehicle to spread the awareness of the religion have been replaced by the effort to separate the Salt Lake City-based church from the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints that have been making the news in Texas. The FLDS broke off from the central authority over 100 years ago.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: flds; mormon; mormonbashing; polygamists; whining
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1 posted on 05/26/2008 6:42:48 AM PDT by Dukes Travels
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To: Dukes Travels

Is it Brigham Young, or bring ‘em young?


2 posted on 05/26/2008 6:48:05 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; metmom; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; SENTINEL
The FLDS broke off from the central authority over 100 years ago.

Well, strictly speaking, the "central authority" broke off from the FLDS over 100 years ago since FLDS' teachings are completely in line with what Joe Smith and Brigham Young taught, especially concerning the "principle" of polygamy.

Apparently there remains strong sympathy for FLDS among the LDS faithful, based upon the FLDS threads on this board.

3 posted on 05/26/2008 6:50:47 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Dukes Travels

No offense to the LDS folks, but when I saw that header, I was certain you meant to write “MORON” and it referred to the “authorities” and “media.”


4 posted on 05/26/2008 7:00:30 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dukes Travels
It’s not easy being Mormon. No cursing, no premarital sex, no Mountain Dew.

What an ignorant author. Tell me which religion condones premarital sex and cursing.

5 posted on 05/26/2008 7:07:37 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Is it Brigham Young, or bring ‘em young?

Its neither. For the FLDS its Breed'em Young.

6 posted on 05/26/2008 7:09:15 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Dukes Travels

The real downside is trying to make yourself believe the folly that passes for theology in the LDS church.


7 posted on 05/26/2008 7:11:03 AM PDT by whipitgood (Neither of, by, nor for the people any longer...)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

But that’s why they call them Latter Day Saints. The rules can change which is what happened with polygamy.


8 posted on 05/26/2008 7:12:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: All
Oh boy!! Another Witch hunting thread. Here's the official kit for you all



Official Texas Child Protective Services Witch Burning Kit®

9 posted on 05/26/2008 7:15:57 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: abb

"Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!"
"How do you know she is a witch?"
"She looks like one."
10 posted on 05/26/2008 7:16:33 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

Ping


12 posted on 05/26/2008 7:27:14 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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To: Dukes Travels
no premarital sex,

What a side splitter, no,how many have their fake second marriages. Sort of like the thirty minute marriage the moosies have.

13 posted on 05/26/2008 7:30:23 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Dukes Travels
According to Kermit its not easy being green either.

I don't think I know of a single religion that condones cursing or pre marital sex, so why is that different than being (f)lds?

The (f)lds says they are the true church and the lds are the ones who left the fold. The (f)lds follow the tenets of Joe Smith so it sorta of looks like the lds did leave the fold.

14 posted on 05/26/2008 7:33:07 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Dukes Travels

I have a large number of problems with LDS theology. That said, equating FLDS with LDS is about like saying that the snake handlers are representative of all Baptists.


15 posted on 05/26/2008 7:40:38 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well..........

Here is one thing that I’ve made attempts to do.

Let’s look at the issue, from the other side of the mirror.


Is it possible that Jeffs and Willie Jessop were smart enough, after being on the run from the law, to curtail their questionable activities?

The whole ‘purpose’ in moving to Texas was to build the temple. They purchased the land, and put their able bodied men, women, and children to work building the Dorms, Houses, Sheds, Concrete Plant, Water Treatment Facility.

They had some zoning and pollution control issues, because they were in a ‘hurry’, and didn’t realize that the wastewater was backing up into the neighbors land. Somewhere.

They were in a hurry because Jeffs had declared that God told him that all the things in their teachings, were going to come true.

The persecution, as well as the literal end of the world as we know it.

The Land they bought, they called the YFZ Ranch.

I think that the name is very important to FLDS teachings, and I have been just letting it go, since no one gave it a second thought.

YFZ - Yearning For Zion. Right?
YFZ - Yearn for Zion. Right?

It has been printed in newspapers, TV, the web, both ways.

The story is that Warren wrote a hymn, called Yearning For Zion. While that may be true, I don’t believe that is the name of their community, their temple, their destiny.

You know what I believe it to be? (pause)

Year For Zion.

I believe it is based on the words in Isaiah 34.

“(For a day of vengeance is to Jehovah, A year of recompences for Zion’s strife,)”



16 posted on 05/26/2008 7:42:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: svcw
The (f)lds follow the tenets of Joe Smith so it sorta of looks like the lds did leave the fold

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17 posted on 05/26/2008 7:45:44 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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To: Ingtar

“That said, equating FLDS with LDS is about like saying that the snake handlers are representative of all Baptists.”

Hmmmmm... I didn’t think, while reading the article, that the writer was equating FLDS with LDS.

I think the point was that the Mormons(LDS) are having to educate the rest of the country to the fact that FLDS is not ‘just like’ LDS.

First off, the Mormons don’t drink coffee, or caffeine products.

The FLDS do. (Warren needed them up day and night to work)


Second, the Mormons aren’t predicting the END OF THE WORLD every month or so, and they don’t isolate themselves from the rest of society.


I don’t think anyone on these threads thinks FLDS is the ‘same’ as LDS.


18 posted on 05/26/2008 7:50:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Dukes Travels

A brief, objective introduction to the LDS church.

1) Founded by a pair of con artists, not uncommon in religion, during a period of religious experimentation, mostly by immigrants, in the US. Having far more females than males at the time, this explained why they dabbled in polygamy and pseudo-socialism when living in the desolation of Utah. They were just being pragmatic.

2) Their second leader (Young), was an exceptionally good manager. He was ambitious, until he went loggerheads with Abraham Lincoln, and was smart enough to realize that if he didn’t behave, after the war, the Union Army would pay a visit.

3) From that point, they had generally wise doctrines, if a tad racist. Be loyal to the US. Be contemporary, that is, keep up with the times. Go for a healthy lifestyle, and keep religious and social discipline. Don’t make waves.

Now, this being said, despite their early origins, and a few annoying foibles, for the most part they have matured into a respectable religion. Ironically, their “soft sell” approach, staying out of national politics, may have been too tame at times, but that has likely kept them out of some of the nastier fights the US has gone through.

The left generally hates them, because they will not bow to the left’s agenda; and the right is dubious about them for religious reasons, even if in considerable agreement with them as far as social, economic and international policies.

Their problems are that first of all, they sometimes offer too much grace to members who are offensive to the gentiles, and there is a willingness among some to stick it to the gentiles in business. This does not make friends. Nor does retroactively declaring other people’s ancestors Mormons.

Second, for some reason they inspire some kook gentiles to extremes of paranoia. While this is not really caused by the Mormons, it is a problem *for* Mormons.

But, again objectively, their pluses far outweigh their minuses. Even in a position of authority they generally will not try to force their religion on subordinates. However, they do try to keep their children away from gentile influences, for example, and prefer that their children not be taught by gentiles, or have too much exposure to gentile ways.


19 posted on 05/26/2008 8:03:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Apparently there remains strong sympathy for FLDS among the LDS faithful, based upon the FLDS threads on this board. “

But is that ‘sympathy’ the kind one has for an estranged, crazy, uncle?

Or maybe it’s a kind of ‘bond’ due to having the same roots.

It would be like Methodists bonding with Baptists, even though the Baptists claim the same ‘bloodline’ deal with John the Baptist.

Both had the same roots. Jesus Christ. So if someone attacked Baptists , I would feel ‘sympathy’, and likely get defensive.


20 posted on 05/26/2008 8:06:20 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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