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Real ID ominous, like papers communists used
The Central Maine Morning Sentinal ^ | May 20, 2008 | Abby Shahn

Posted on 05/26/2008 10:25:38 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

This Real ID stuff is really ominous. Are you sure that you can prove that you are who you are? Do you have all of your documents in order? If not, well, who knows?

You may not be able to board a plane, you may not be able to get a driver's license or passport. You may not be able to leave the country. If you discover that Real ID is a bad idea, you may not be able to undo it, because you may not be able to vote!

I have a friend who grew up in a communist country. He told me that the Nazis instituted ID requirements when they took over his country. The communists loved it and kept it on.

(Excerpt) Read more at morningsentinel.mainetoday.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; orwell; realid

1 posted on 05/26/2008 10:26:05 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: traviskicks; Extremely Extreme Extremist; neverdem; ProCivitas; ExTexasRedhead; ...

This law really is scary stuff. It needs to be repealed.


2 posted on 05/26/2008 10:28:29 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“This law really is scary stuff. It needs to be repealed.”

HR4437, the bill that started this, was something we were all for. Have they gummed it up since it was passed?

What do you suggest to ID aliens to keep them off airliners and keep them from voting?


3 posted on 05/26/2008 10:31:37 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Oh the horror...a national standard for driver licenses...

I guess my state is allready a police state since we allready meet the requirments...

SHEESH....


4 posted on 05/26/2008 10:33:46 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Clintonfatigued
You may not be able to leave the country

When it gets harder to leave the country then it is to get I think we have a problem.

5 posted on 05/26/2008 10:33:57 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Domandred

“You may not be able to leave the country”

“When it gets harder to leave the country then it is to get I think we have a problem.”

LMAO....harder to leave?....as hard as it is to ENTER???


6 posted on 05/26/2008 10:39:34 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wouldn’t need ‘em if the borders were enforced. We call that the LAW of unintended consequences and even the Libs can’t break it.

dung.


7 posted on 05/26/2008 10:39:48 AM PDT by Moose Dung (Perquacky is a fools game.)
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To: AuntB

Illegals.

ID theft.

Voter ID.

These are all good reasons for conservatives to want a federal ID system.

IMHO, it should still be feared.

I fear ANY info the FEDS think they are entitled to.


8 posted on 05/26/2008 10:41:36 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Clintonfatigued
This law really is scary stuff. It needs to be repealed.

While they're at it they should repeal the law requiring ID for purchasing liqueur.

And they should put all of those dead people back on the voting registers too!

9 posted on 05/26/2008 10:53:15 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
10 posted on 05/26/2008 11:02:46 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Crim
I guess my state is allready a police state since we allready meet the requirments...

Not necessarily. However, being a police state would probably make meeting the requirements much easier.

11 posted on 05/26/2008 11:08:13 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The road to hell is paved with euphemisms.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The government is not mandating you to do anything. You can sit your house, travel between states, do whatever floats your boat BY YOURSELF, and you won’t have any issues.


12 posted on 05/26/2008 11:53:38 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
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To: AuntB

Please... we were not ALL for it. I have thought the whole notion utterly anathema to a free society. As have many others on this board. However, we were all shouted down by the “true conservatives” who can’t seem to find any fault in Big Brother.


13 posted on 05/26/2008 2:06:40 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: AuntB

If Bush were truly interested in dealing with illegal aliens, we would have done much more to seal the borders. This is aimed at U.S. citizens only.


14 posted on 05/26/2008 2:10:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: dcwusmc

I find plenty of fault with it, one thing being that it gives more $$$ back to the private prisons for detaining instead of deporting like they should. The same prisons systems that donate BIG $$$ to Bush, McCain, etc.

We already have national ID. The SS card, our Driver license, etc. What is everyone so afraid of? There’s also a lot of conspiracy rantings over this of people who have something to hide.

I’m not afraid to prove who I am, why are you?


15 posted on 05/26/2008 2:18:44 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: traviskicks
I'm shocked to see so many Conservatives in favor of all this.
16 posted on 05/26/2008 9:15:45 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (The Republic is watered by the Blood of Tyrants Republocrat, and Democrian.-l8pliot)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I have a friend who grew up in a communist country. He told me that the Nazis instituted ID requirements when they took over his country. The communists loved it and kept it on.

Yeah, right. Communism was a paradise until the Nazis invaded!

17 posted on 05/27/2008 3:39:38 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Clintonfatigued

I resent the whole ID card thing.

Who are you? Show me some id.

Up yers that’s who I am.


18 posted on 05/27/2008 4:13:47 AM PDT by Impy (Hey Media, where are the tears for Mary Jo Kopechne?)
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To: dcwusmc

Looks like a lot of folks are getting themselves used to obeying the order of “show me your papers” early.

Unreal, eh?


19 posted on 05/27/2008 5:15:55 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yeah, let's make it easier for someone to board a plane anonymously. Let's have meaningless drivers licenses like the 9-11 hijackers were able to secure.

If a state doesn't want to produce licenses that conform, that's just fine. Their residents will have to get passports or some other ID to fly. Air travel safety is the Federal government's responsibility. Allowing just anyone to board a plane is an abdication of that responsibility. The Constitution guarantees us the right to travel, not fly anonymously.

Same for voting. Every fraudulent vote cancels out a valid one. I don't want dead people, people who have moved away, or people who already voted somewhere else being allowed to cancel my vote with a bogus one.

20 posted on 05/27/2008 7:45:13 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: AuntB

I am not afraid to, but why should I HAVE to? Unless I am caught committing a crime, IT IS NOT EVER THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT WHO I AM!!!!! Is that clear enough?


21 posted on 05/27/2008 8:57:15 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

I hear ya. I’m torn on this as well. But the Government has you ID’d now. Gonna throw out your SS card and photo dr. license?????


22 posted on 05/27/2008 9:54:24 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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