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The Running Mate Choice
New York Times ^ | 27 May 2008 | David Brooks

Posted on 05/27/2008 7:18:15 AM PDT by shrinkermd

My first thought on the running mate question is that to balance his ticket, Barack Obama should pick a really old white general. Therefore, he should pick Dwight Eisenhower. John McCain, on the other hand, needs to pick someone younger than himself. Therefore, he also should pick Dwight Eisenhower.

...If John McCain is elected, he’ll face a political culture threatening to split at the seams. In defeat, Democrats will be enraged at everything and everybody. The Republican Party will still be exhausted and divided. McCain will find it hard to staff the administration since so many Republican advisers were exhausted over the previous eight years.

Pawlenty, the governor of Minnesota, is one of the G.O.P.’s leading and most likable modernizers. The son of a truck driver (his mother died when he was 16), he is the godfather of Sam’s Club conservatism, the effort to reconnect the party to the needs of the working class. Pawlenty could help McCain play the Theodore Roosevelt-style role — reforming the nation’s institutions to fit a new century and epoch...

Obama will need a vice president who knows the millions of ways that power is exercised and subverted in Washington. He’ll need someone who can be a senior, authoritative presence in a cabinet that may range from Republican Senator Chuck Hagel to the labor leader Andy Stern. He’ll need someone who can supervise his young reformers and build transpartisan coalitions more effectively than Obama has as senator.

Sam Nunn and Tom Daschle seem to fit the bill. Nunn is one of those senior Democrats (like David Boren and Bob Kerrey) who left the Senate lamenting the dumbed-down nature of modern politics. Daschle was more partisan as majority leader, but he is still widely trusted and universally liked.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brooks; mccain; obama; vp
My first thought on the running mate question is that to balance his ticket, Barack Obama should pick a really old white general. Therefore, he should pick Dwight Eisenhower. John McCain, on the other hand, needs to pick someone younger than himself. Therefore, he also should pick Dwight Eisenhower

A pathognomic sign that a moderate is going to the dark side, is to crack jokes about their previous allies. In this instance Brooks fails at both humor and ability to reason. He will please "the real conservatives" on FR who, like him, are ignorant of the fact that Freud pointed out personally directed humor has its genesis in emotionally and illogically based hostility.

Alternatively, Pinch is going to decide, in view of the declining NYT fortunes, who is going to leave. Snuggling up to pinch by telling him what he wants to hear is a NYT custom.

As far as Pawlenty, besides being the natural choice of a military strategy--attack at their strength--and Pawlenty's help and loyalty in the dark days, there is one fact that reformed or secular Jews miss. That is Pawlenty is a member of the largest Evangelical church in Minnesota and his pastor, Leith Anderson, is president of The American Evangelical Association. Pawlenty then brings unequivocal Evangelical credentials and the leader of the Evangelicals.

As far as Obama, I note that Mayor Bloomberg has exactly the same foreign policy views as Senator Obama, he is a Jew and richer than any candidate or pair of candidates. I guess Pastor Wright is about to learn, "the chickens are coming home to roost." Finally, Bloomberg would bring the 80% Jewish vote back in the Democrat fold and allay their fears of of Pastors Wright and Jackson et al running the country.

1 posted on 05/27/2008 7:18:15 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Incidentally, David Brooks, President Eisenhower became President at age 62. Hillary Clinton is presently 61. Are you labeling Hillary as an old woman and past her prime?
2 posted on 05/27/2008 7:25:01 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

“Pawlenty then brings unequivocal Evangelical credentials and the leader of the Evangelicals.”

They already tried that with Huckabee and failed miserably. I think a lot of people are tired of the evangelical dance.


3 posted on 05/27/2008 7:25:08 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: shrinkermd
Pawlenty couldn't keep his own Minnesota Republicans in line. (biggest tax hike in state history) How's he supposed to add strength to the national GOP ?
4 posted on 05/27/2008 7:25:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: shrinkermd

What if Obama picks Jim Webb for his VP? Hopefully this won’t be perceived as racist, but I believe Obama must pick a white man as his VP in order to have any chance this Fall against McCain.


5 posted on 05/27/2008 7:27:33 AM PDT by library user
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To: shrinkermd
President Eisenhower became President at age 62. Hillary Clinton is presently 61. Are you labeling Hillary as an old woman and past her prime?

Hillary is old and unaccomplished. Eisenhower was old but very accomplished.

That's the difference.

And, BTW, Hillary is not 61 - she's 60.

6 posted on 05/27/2008 7:29:43 AM PDT by library user
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To: shrinkermd

“Finally, Bloomberg would bring the 80% Jewish vote back in the Democrat fold and allay their fears of of Pastors Wright and Jackson et al running the country.”

A man with all his billions is not going to play second fiddle to Obama, not gonna happen. In fact, I think Mayor Mike will ultimately endorse McCain.


7 posted on 05/27/2008 7:29:44 AM PDT by moose2004
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To: shrinkermd
Obama can pick Wesley Clark as vice president...

the Demonicrats will then have the perfect ticket, a black and a poofter who tried to start WWIII in Kosovo...

8 posted on 05/27/2008 7:29:55 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: shrinkermd
Sam Nunn and Tom Daschle seem to fit the bill.

I find it hard to believe Sam Nunn would be on anybody's speed dial or Fave Five, let alone on Obama's list of potential VP's.

9 posted on 05/27/2008 7:36:35 AM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: shrinkermd

McCain/Forbes 2008


10 posted on 05/27/2008 7:39:02 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: library user

Barack Obama should pick John McCain as his VP! Problem briefly solved. At the same time, McCain should pick Obama to be his VP. Then, the political fighting between Obama and McCain can really begin, and all of the conservative voters will have to choose between minor political party Presidential candidates Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party and Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.


11 posted on 05/27/2008 7:39:18 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: All

Pawlenty was elected governor in Minnesota by tiny margins. He’s not bringing those Electoral Votes to the table. The Times knows it and wants the pick wasted.

The only non wasted pick is one that at least makes a case for bringing marginal blue EVs to McCain. That would be Michigan. A moderate who can make a try to steal Michigan is optimal.


12 posted on 05/27/2008 7:39:41 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Non-Sequitur
You are so doomed!
13 posted on 05/27/2008 7:41:20 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: library user

Yes, Hillary was born October 26, 1947; she will be 61 in five months. I am surprised most and Brooks believe Eisenhower was old at 62 and Hillary is young at 61. That does not include you does it?

Incidentally, Senator McCain is 72; I guess ten years makes you senile. President Reagan was 69 when he took office. So I guess three years makes even more of a difference.


14 posted on 05/27/2008 7:45:14 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: moose2004
In fact, I think Mayor Mike will ultimately endorse McCain.

Yep, after all they're both RINOs.

15 posted on 05/27/2008 7:45:16 AM PDT by library user
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To: shrinkermd
Pawlenty then brings unequivocal Evangelical credentials and the leader of the Evangelicals.

Evengelicals don't have a leader.

Sola Scriptura

16 posted on 05/27/2008 7:47:39 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: moose2004

A man with billions especially craves recognition and power. Just having billions and being mayor of NYC is not sufficient.

Mayor Bloomberg, like many in politics, has a lifestyle of “will-to-power.” They enjoy the challenge and treasure moving upwards and onwards to personal immortality in the public press.


17 posted on 05/27/2008 7:48:02 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: library user
And, BTW, Hillary is not 61 - she's 60.

yet she doesn't look a day over 75.

18 posted on 05/27/2008 7:49:16 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: chilepepper

Obama is all about youth. I can’t see him picking a VP that much older than him, which means his choices are quite limited.

For this reason, my guess is that he has zero interest in asking Wesley Clark to be his VP, as Clark is nearly two decades older than Obama.


19 posted on 05/27/2008 7:50:18 AM PDT by library user
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To: shrinkermd
The neocon David Brooks is still so ensconced in Hillary Hatred that he cannot even bring up Mrs. Clinton's name in what pretends to be a serious discussion of Democratic Vice Presidential choices. I might expect as much from professional Hillary haters like Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson, Mike Barnicle, Laura Ingram, and Rush Limballs, but from a writer employed by the NYT.

David Brooks no longer deserves to be taken seriously when he brings up the names of nonstarters like Chuck Hagel and Andy Stern along with nonentities like Sam Nunn and Bob Kerry, while failing to mention Hillary. Republican newspaper columnists, please grow up and get over your cancerous Hillary hatred!

20 posted on 05/27/2008 7:50:41 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: shrinkermd

wow..you’re right..Bloomberg would be a great pick for Obama..FURTHER alientating the working class white vote. Good job.


21 posted on 05/27/2008 7:50:56 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: MrEdd
yet she doesn't look a day over 75.

Who would want this exhausted, tired old hag as Commander-In-Chief?


22 posted on 05/27/2008 7:54:03 AM PDT by library user
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To: shrinkermd
...Mayor Bloomberg has exactly the same foreign policy views as Senator Obama...

Why is Mayor Bloomberg even mentioned in a serious discussion of Democratic vice presidential nominees? Mayor Bloomberg hasn't endorsed Senator Obama yet and the only vice presidential candidate the egotistical Mayor Bloomberg might endorse is Bloomberg himself.

23 posted on 05/27/2008 7:56:02 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: shrinkermd

You said she was presently 61. That’s why I wrote what I did.


24 posted on 05/27/2008 7:59:49 AM PDT by library user
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To: MrEdd
Sola Scriptura: "The formal principle of the Protestant Reformation and one of the five solas, referring to the Protestant idea that the Bible alone is the ultimate authority, not the pope or tradition."

I am writing of politics not theology. Are you saying that Protestant religious leaders have no political interest or influence? Or are you saying they do not have leadership qualities? And why should Evangelicals form a voluntary association anyway?

25 posted on 05/27/2008 8:01:43 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: MurryMom
Republican newspaper columnists, please grow up and get over your cancerous Hillary hatred!

I think they're waiting for left wing Democrats to go first.

26 posted on 05/27/2008 8:10:46 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: chilepepper

If Obama is too cautious to pick Hillary, he’s probably too cautious to pick Hillary’s parasitic twin, Wesley Clark.

Incidentally, Clark is not only a Clintonist, he carries a great deal of baggage and adds nothing to the ticket. The Obama fans and the Clark fans in the ‘Rat party are much the same people.


27 posted on 05/27/2008 8:16:02 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Uh...fight SCD. Schwa Collapse Disorder is spreading. Save the a word. Just say uh.)
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To: shrinkermd

McCain/Graham. It’s gonna happen.


28 posted on 05/27/2008 8:45:01 AM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: Manic_Episode

He hasn’t picked him yet.


29 posted on 05/27/2008 8:58:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: library user

http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/HumaHillary.jpg

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2007/11/26/hillary_huma.jpg


30 posted on 05/27/2008 9:05:05 AM PDT by moose2004
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To: shrinkermd

As Rush has said, “If you want to know what McCain is thinking, read what his mouth-piece (David Brooks) has to say in his editorials in the New York Times.”


31 posted on 05/27/2008 9:25:56 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving an Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: shrinkermd
I am saying evangelicals are so sectarian that saying any particular evangelical teacher is a leader in general is much the same as saying that Barbara Streisand is a leader in music. Evangelicism is far to broad a term to encompass a general leader. Even the late Billy Graham was not universally accepted as a "Leader" within evangelicism.

Bottom line, evangelicism is too diverse to have a leader. Put up a Calvinist and the Arminianists get mad, and on and on.

32 posted on 05/27/2008 11:26:19 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The MN GOP has shrivelled drastically on Pawlenty’s watch. Why do you think the New York Slimes would be touting his candidacy ?


33 posted on 05/27/2008 4:39:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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