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‘Survivalist’ produced explosives at home
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Posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:11 AM PDT by mnehring

Investigators say a ‘‘survivalist” with a stockpile of food and more than 30 weapons and 230 pounds of chemicals was ‘‘rolling along” in producing explosives in his Gaithersburg townhouse when he was arrested last week.

When authorities searched the man’s home, they also found his 12-year-old son sleeping with a loaded handgun under his pillow and another within reach, county police said.

An anonymous tip about illegal fireworks led federal and county investigators to James L. Boka, 47, officials said. He was arrested May 21 and charged with 11 counts of possession of a destructive device, two counts of reckless endangerment and one count of weapon endangerment to a minor, according to a statement from county fire officials. He was released from custody the same day on $60,000 bond.

‘‘The amount of chemicals that he had in his house were a public safety hazard,...‘‘...We were just glad we were able to stop this guy because he was already rolling along.

A James Boka registered with an online Ron Paul county group described himself as a U.S. Navy veteran who has worked inside Washington for 25 years in nearly every major agency, including World Bank, Pentagon.

I have been aware of the plan to destroy the USA for many years now and I have grown tired of preaching the danger to so many people who do not want to hear it,the profile continues. ...There is nothing more important to any American right now than to fight off the attempts of the New World Order and its puppet masters from destroying the last few pieces of the United States Constitution before it is too late. I want to help in any way I can so my son does not grow up in a fascist police state.

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When authorities searched the man’s home, they also found his 12-year-old son sleeping with a loaded handgun under his pillow and another within reach, county police said.

Idiots who don't practice basic gun safety rules just give ammo to the anti-second amendment crowd.

1 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:12 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Just...wow...


2 posted on 05/28/2008 8:55:25 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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Here is the Einstein who let's his 12-year old sleep with a loaded gun under his pillow.

Hopefully the 12 year-old is smarter about gun safety.

3 posted on 05/28/2008 8:55:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

ok - so exactly is the problem with a 12 year old young man sleeping with a pistol?
By 12, most younsters should be very adept with firearms.


4 posted on 05/28/2008 8:58:21 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: mnehrling
Investigators say a ‘‘survivalist” with a stockpile of food and more than 30 weapons and 230 pounds of chemicals was ‘‘rolling along” in producing explosives in his Gaithersburg townhouse when he was arrested last week.

They say this like it was a bad thing.

5 posted on 05/28/2008 8:58:33 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

Truther freak....DANGEROUS truther freak..


6 posted on 05/28/2008 9:00:28 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: mnehrling

“. . . a registered with an online Ron Paul . . . “

What a surprise!


7 posted on 05/28/2008 9:00:44 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: padre35

Here is his Amazon wish list.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=2OLUVSWWIAW0N

Books on how to build rockets and explosives, alien invasion and 9/11 conspiracy stuff, and tons of government conspiracy books about secret underground bases.. of course, I’m sure the left will try to say this is a typical ‘right winger’ and not an apparent nut.


8 posted on 05/28/2008 9:00:54 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2019515/posts

He’s no right winger at all...

He’s a truther.


9 posted on 05/28/2008 9:04:28 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
so exactly is the problem with a 12 year old young man sleeping with a pistol?

Basic gun safety. Always keep a gun unloaded until it is ready to use. Store guns so they are not accessible to unauthorized persons. Anyone with even the most basic NRA or gun safety training knows this.

Placing a loaded gun under your pillow is idiotic to say the least and something one should only see in the movies. This shows disgregard for firearms safety and his son's life.

10 posted on 05/28/2008 9:04:55 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

ok - so exactly is the problem with a 12 year old young man sleeping with a pistol?
By 12, most younsters should be very adept with firearms.
_______

LOL. Every 12 year old should sleep with a loaded handgun under his pillow? You really see nothing slightly off about this?


11 posted on 05/28/2008 9:07:48 AM PDT by dmz
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Nothing is wrong with a 12 year being adept with firearms......

But as a former NRA safety Instructor, words escape me that you appear to not recognize the gun safety issues not to mention the bad parenting skills.......

Please tell me that’s not what you meant!?!


12 posted on 05/28/2008 9:09:16 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: from occupied ga
They say this like it was a bad thing.

Really, in a free country, of the things mentioned, what shouldn't he have been able to do?

13 posted on 05/28/2008 9:14:43 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: mnehrling

Well, he hasn’t been tried as of yet, but the article and preferences in books does not paint a pretty picture of the man.

He sounds unhinged, I bet he a DU or Koz Boy.


14 posted on 05/28/2008 9:18:12 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: mnehrling

And the sheeple go “Bad Man”. No wonder we are going down the crapper.


15 posted on 05/28/2008 9:20:32 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: glorgau
Really, in a free country, of the things mentioned, what shouldn't he have been able to do?

He ought not to have frightened the sheep.
16 posted on 05/28/2008 9:24:27 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: Altura Ct.
Sheeple don't know basic gun safety. This guy is an idiot. The real sheep are the ones who blindly see nothing wrong with what he was doing just because he is anti-government. The fact is, letting his 12 year old son sleep with a loaded gun under his pillow is stupid and things like this harm second amendment rights by giving the left a caricature of what they claim the ‘right’ is.
17 posted on 05/28/2008 9:28:01 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: nevergore
My 11th birthday present was a shotgun, and, by the age of 12 I owned several handguns. However...I have never considered "under my pillow" to be a safe place for a loaded weapon.

Of course, as far back as I can remember, my parents constantly pounded the rules of firearms safety into my young skull...

18 posted on 05/28/2008 9:29:48 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: mnehrling

Wow, more anti-Paul stuff. Yawn.


19 posted on 05/28/2008 9:30:49 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Altura Ct.
I should also add that it seems ‘sheep’ use the term sheeple a lot, almost in unison... baaa. baaa... sheeple...sheeple... just ignore the fact that nuts like this harm the rest of our ability to retain our rights because they can't follow basic rules of safety and responsibility. They give proverbial ammo to the left to take away our rights.
20 posted on 05/28/2008 9:31:04 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mysterio

This is a thread on gun safety, don’t try to bring Paul into it.


21 posted on 05/28/2008 9:31:47 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
You didn't post it specifically because of the Paul reference? lol

Ok, carry on.
22 posted on 05/28/2008 9:34:39 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: from occupied ga
You are probably right until you get to this part:

in his Gaithersburg townhouse

Its one thing to be a survivalist stockpiling stuff for The End on 20 acres in the countryside. Its another to do it in a townhouse in a dense suburb like Gaithersburg, MD (DC bedroom community).

23 posted on 05/28/2008 9:35:01 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: mnehrling
"Always keep a gun unloaded until it is ready to use."

Huh??

An unloaded gun is as good a bladeless parring knife with a broken handle. Especially when it is two AM and there is an intruder comming through your window.

24 posted on 05/28/2008 9:35:31 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: mnehrling

>He was released from custody the same day on $60,000 bond.<

Something tells me the judge wasn’t too concerned about this guy blowing up City Hall or anything else.


25 posted on 05/28/2008 9:37:28 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: mysterio
Boy, everything is a Ron Paul rorschach test to you isn't it? The article goes into all web references they can find to this guy and blam, you think it is a bash.. ..and we wonder why the press are accused of ‘ignoring’ Paul, they are probably sick of all the sheep jumping on every mention as a bash.

...now back to the topic 99% of the rest of us are discussing, gun safety..

26 posted on 05/28/2008 9:39:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

So what? When I was 12 I knew how to shoot, clean a gun and was not afaid of a loaded gun. Imagine that a loaded gun! So what you are buying onto is that a 12 yo and this “nutcase” are not to be trusted only “hunters” and “recreational” shooters who don’t keep “loaded” guns are.

“Idiots who don’t practice basic gun safety rules just give ammo to the anti-second amendment crowd.”

No, it’s morons like you who back up a step everytime the MSM throws out a story. Oh my God a twelve YO with a loaded gun!


27 posted on 05/28/2008 9:41:30 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I keep a gun unloaded with a clip next to it in a locked case under my bed. I can have the case unlocked and gun loaded in less that 20 seconds. Sleeping with a loaded gun under your pillow is an idiotic move that one generally only sees in the movies and is about as dumb as holding your gun sideways to shoot. The rules I posted were the basics of NRA gun safety. We have the right to own guns, but we also have the responsibility to handle them properly.


28 posted on 05/28/2008 9:43:22 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling; dmz; nevergore

Of course the safety issue is real but the bigger issue I think, just because it a stupid thing to do, it is not against the law to be stupid.

Owning a gun and teaching your son firearms proficiency is legal, practicing survivalist skills is legal and so is stockpiling food. Also reading books about how to make a bomb or a rocket is legal.

The only thing this guy seems to have done is to possess chemicals that when combined, could explode which may or may not be legal.

This article take a lot of legal activities and mixes them up into and article that paints these behaviors paint them with a negative brush.

And another thing, the NRA is not the sole authority all things gun.


29 posted on 05/28/2008 9:45:52 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Captain Rhino
Its one thing to be a survivalist stockpiling stuff for The End on 20 acres in the countryside. Its another to do it in a townhouse in a dense suburb like Gaithersburg, MD (DC bedroom community).

What's the fundamental difference? Do you think that the charges would be any different if he were on a 20 acre lot?

30 posted on 05/28/2008 9:46:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: mnehrling
I only bring it up because you have posted incessantly about how much you hate the guy for the better part of a year now. I was honestly shocked that you had posted something that wasn't about him until I got to the sentence where it was mentioned that this idiot likes him. So given your posting history, I was left to conclude that you posted the article solely for that reason.

That's all I wanted to say. You can get back to your discussion now.
31 posted on 05/28/2008 9:47:08 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Altura Ct.
Did I complain the 12 year old had a loaded gun, no! I complained the father let his son sleep with a loaded gun under his pillow. I am all for him owning it, heck, I had my first gun when I was 10. This doesn't change the fact this ‘father’ was an idiot who put his son's life in danger by not instilling and following basic gun safety principles?

Do I think (or say) his rights should be taken away? No. I do, however (as others here have) express my disgust with his stupid irresponsibility.

Now go back to the sheep practice of defending everything this guy did and avoiding critical thought.

32 posted on 05/28/2008 9:47:28 AM PDT by mnehring
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You are the only one without “critical thought” If the 12yo knows how to use a gun what is your point? That you agree with the MSM and how dare this man allow a 12 yo to sleep with a loaded gun. He MUST BE A CRIMINAL!


33 posted on 05/28/2008 9:51:20 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: mnehrling; Pete-R-Bilt; glock rocks; Carry_Okie

>Basic gun safety. Always keep a gun unloaded until it is ready to use. Store guns so they are not accessible to unauthorized persons.<

You would most certainly mess your underwear if you came to my home. There is a loaded gun in every room, including the garage, where my wife or I spend a substantial amount of our time. You do have to know where to look for them because they are not sitting out collecting dust but the weapon is available quickly, should the need arise.

What is not common in our home is unauthorized person(s). We are selective on whom we invite to stay with us because of this fact. If I or my wife think there is any chance you will are the type to do unauthorized snooping when the door is closed we simply don’t invite you to inside the front door.

Our last visitor left a box of Federal Premium .357’s on the nightstand. Freepers can be so forgetful.


34 posted on 05/28/2008 9:53:12 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: mysterio
Show once where I have said I ‘hate’ him? I am all about posting critical pieces and challenging assumptions. Generally the threads about Paul seem to have more life and I do consider him just another fake politician, but I also believe that he should not be excempt from the same critical eye we give the other candidates. Funny, your comment about posting ‘incessantly’, in the past several weeks I have had two articles that had Paul in it (counting this one's side comment) several about McCain, a couple about Rachael Ray's scarf, a couple about Microsoft, one about a weird religious cult producing Meth, and yet, you call this posting incessantly about Paul. Maybe you should look in the mirror and see if this is really a test of what you want to see? Maybe the question should be, why, in every slight mention of Paul, do you feel the need to jump up screaming defense, even when (like this article) none is needed.
35 posted on 05/28/2008 9:54:05 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
I completely agree with you on the under the pillow aspect.

Personally, I keep my magazine loaded, in the gun with one chambered, un cocked of course and in a handgun case. There are no children or any others who would not have unauthorized access to the weapon.

Don't know what your situation is but trust you have it under control. PS, work on that 20 secs. Sometimes that can be an eternity ;^)

36 posted on 05/28/2008 9:54:06 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Altura Ct.

TEMPLATE:

Annonymous Tip.
Non-search warrent surveillence.
Supposed pretext: fireworks.
Consent for search by resident.


37 posted on 05/28/2008 9:54:18 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: mnehrling
"I keep a gun unloaded with a clip next to it in a locked case under my bed. I can have the case unlocked and gun loaded in less that 20 seconds. Sleeping with a loaded gun under your pillow is an idiotic move that one generally only sees in the movies and is about as dumb as holding your gun sideways to shoot. The rules I posted were the basics of NRA gun safety. We have the right to own guns, but we also have the responsibility to handle them properly."

Okay, That's your opinion. You're welcome to it but some here don't share it. Accept that fact, please.

38 posted on 05/28/2008 9:55:28 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Jack Black

TEMPLATE: (addendum)

Annonymous Tip.
Non-search warrent surveillence.
Supposed pretext: fireworks.
Consent for search by resident.
Label: (in Press): ‘suvivalist’ ‘compound’.
Link: to dangerous sects; “Paulist” “FLDS”


39 posted on 05/28/2008 9:56:35 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Las Vegas Ron
OOOOPS "There are no children or any others who would not have unauthorized access to the weapon"
40 posted on 05/28/2008 9:58:41 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: mnehrling
Paranoia will destroy ya. I wouldn't recommend sleeping with a firearm under one's pillow unless one can manage something several orders of magnitude more heroic than The Princess And The Pea. Moreover, appearing at the office with "TLOC" imprinted in my forehead is a sure conversation-starter, but it isn't the sort of conversation likely to result in a morale bonus. The problem would be addressed, IMHO, if somebody sold a high-powered semiautomatic whose factory name is a palindrome.

However, there are several likely safety issues related to turning a Gaithersburg townhouse into an explosives factory. Not all of OSHA's little recommendations are manifestations of an overweening regulatory mechanism; some actually address certain issues such as chemical fires and uncontrolled explosions, which are sure to catch the attention of the local homeowners' association. Why the heck this clown can't get a bunker like the rest of us is what I want to know. ;-)

41 posted on 05/28/2008 9:58:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mysterio
..and just for your own amusement:

Google mnehrling +paul = 638 results

Google mnehrling +mccain = 717 results

Google mnehrling +Fred Thompson = 2080 results

Google mnehrling +hunter = 3090 results

_________________________ ..how about mysterio?

Google Mysterio +Paul = 1270 results

..hmmmm, who is posing 'incessantly' about Paul? I'm surprised based on these results you are complaining I'm ignoring paul in relation to the other candidates.

42 posted on 05/28/2008 10:01:47 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
"The investigator again confronted Boka, who consented to a search of his home."

Here's where the guy screwed up. The only thing I see wrong that he did here was having the kid sleep with a loaded gun under his pillow. That's pretty stupid. Put it in a nightstand, it's just as accessible and a lot safer from someone thrashing around in their sleep.
43 posted on 05/28/2008 10:02:51 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Jack Black

I agree. It has all the “classic” elements. It is a typical MSM story. The guy “could be” dangerous but so could anyone else. The fact that many accept the anti-gun MSM version of this is distressing and very telling. It won’t be long until all these people wringing there hands over this will be herded toward more and more restrictions on the 2nd amendment or completely revoking thereof.


44 posted on 05/28/2008 10:03:22 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: mnehrling

How many threads have I started about Ron Paul?


45 posted on 05/28/2008 10:03:41 AM PDT by mysterio
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>Consent for search by resident.<

Not ever a good idea.


46 posted on 05/28/2008 10:07:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: mnehrling
Boy, everything is a Ron Paul rorschach test to you isn't it?

Com on, bro. This didn't pop up on your Ron Paul RSS feed?

47 posted on 05/28/2008 10:18:42 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: glorgau
of the things mentioned, what shouldn't he have been able to do?

Making flash powder in a urban townhome, putting all of his neighbors at risk... You don't see a problem with that?

48 posted on 05/28/2008 10:22:56 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: jmc813

Nope, this one came in under the keyword “New World Order” where I get a kick out of conspiracy rantings..


49 posted on 05/28/2008 10:25:21 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
Nope, this one came in under the keyword “New World Order” where I get a kick out of conspiracy rantings..

It ain't no conspiracy theory. It's real, and they're going to totally wipe out WCW.


50 posted on 05/28/2008 10:29:11 AM PDT by jmc813
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