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Chart of the day: Illegal aliens get WHAT? (Workers Comp for Illegal Aliens -- OUTAGEOUS!!!)
Michelle Malkin ^ | 05/28/2008 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 05/28/2008 9:53:19 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Reader A.F. e-mails the chart of the day. He writes: “Michelle, I work peripherally for the insurance industry and get the industry’s magazine National Underwriter. The May 8 issue contains a cover story titled: “Workers Comp for Illegal Aliens Sparks Debate Among the States.” A box within the text describes which states already provide WC for illegal aliens: “CA, FL, NV, NY, TX and UT expressly include illegal aliens in the WC coverage” —- UTAH??? So you can come to the US, work illegally, complain of headaches caused by a little slip and fall and you can go on drinking Dos Equis with my tax dollars for the rest of your natural life. What a country!”

I’ve mentioned the illegal alien workers’ comp scheme before in immigration speeches over the years and have been met with skepticism. The trend has only exploded since I first reported on it.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; freestuff; hispandering; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; michellemalkin; morethanequalrights
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1 posted on 05/28/2008 9:53:20 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: Admin Moderator; Lead Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

Accidentally misspelled “outrageous” in title; could this be fixed, please...? ;) Thanks!


2 posted on 05/28/2008 9:54:30 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Liz; calcowgirl; Calpernia; indylindy; pissant; SoConPubbie; Travis McGee; TADSLOS; bcsco; ...

Hispandering PING!


3 posted on 05/28/2008 9:55:48 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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Thank you, mods!!! ;)


4 posted on 05/28/2008 9:58:23 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Next time, please click ‘Report Abuse.’ I didn’t see your note until after I fixed your headline, and we sent Sidebar Moderator out for sandwiches and beer.


5 posted on 05/28/2008 9:58:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Gotcha! ;)


6 posted on 05/28/2008 10:00:01 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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Is sidebar bringing enough beer for all of us?


7 posted on 05/28/2008 10:01:05 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I liked Michelle a lot when she was just a fun passionate little blogger and guest commentator. Now that she's got two huge blogs in Hot Air and Michelle Malkin she's become kind of a diva. I even dumped all my cute pictures of her from my photobucket account.
Oh yeah, and I also threw away her discarded gum I saved from the trash bin and took all her pictures off my bathroom mirror.
8 posted on 05/28/2008 10:02:59 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Next question: Can I get my WC claim check mailed to me in Guadalahara?

Can I get an electronic transfer of my WC claim to my "peoples" bank in Monterrey?

9 posted on 05/28/2008 10:05:28 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: MovementConservative
I even dumped all my cute pictures of her from my photobucket account.

A fascinating addition to the ongoing conversation, re: illegal immigration in America. Thanks for sharing.

10 posted on 05/28/2008 10:07:04 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I am always amused by the posters who claim that one cannot tell an illegal by just going to the site.

BTW, I watched one illegal walk right off the roof ridge and fall to the ground in Boca Raton, Florida.

It was his first day on the job and his first hour or so.
Stood on the roof across from him and watched him walk right across the entire ridgeline and off without missing a beat.
Broke his left leg.

His claim was denied because of eyewitness testimony that contradicted his sworn testimony.
Surprise, he was an illegal.

Think he knew the law? - you bet he did.

11 posted on 05/28/2008 10:08:01 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: MovementConservative

What did she do to piss you off. Was it her take on illegals? She wrote Invasion years ago, and has been on the bleeding edge of the movement for even longer.


12 posted on 05/28/2008 10:09:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
First you complain because they don't have insurance.
Then you complain because they do have insurance.
13 posted on 05/28/2008 10:09:49 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: bill1952
Stood on the roof across from him and watched him walk right across the entire ridgeline and off without missing a beat.

Broke his left leg.

Evidently, he didn't realize the gravity of the situation. ;)

14 posted on 05/28/2008 10:10:00 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Work comp for most employers comes from insurers or self funded, not from tax dollars.

I can give you two reasons why illegal aliens should be covered under worker’s comp.

1) Worker’s Comp insurance in expensive. Not covering them gives a company a big incentive for hiring illegals.

2) If they are not covered, employers can hire illegals rather than dealing with known safety issues. Covering them makes the employer deal with safety issues.


15 posted on 05/28/2008 10:10:35 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I’m not sure that the outrage is that they get worker’s comp. The outrage is that they would be hired in the first place.

Worker’s comp really isn’t their to protect the employee. It’s really there to protect the employer. It basically protects the employer from getting sued by the employee when he is involved in an accident.


16 posted on 05/28/2008 10:10:40 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

New Jersey also provides WC benefits to illegal aliens, which include temporary disability payments, an award for permanent disabilty - whether partial or total and also payment for 100% of authorized medical expenses.


17 posted on 05/28/2008 10:10:47 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
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To: Ben Ficklin

No, he’s complaining that they are here, period. And sucking up tax dollars is just icing on the cake.


18 posted on 05/28/2008 10:10:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The truth is, most of the millionaires we send to Washington care very little about you and me and don’t mind bankrupting the country in the process with their various self-serving agendas.


19 posted on 05/28/2008 10:13:33 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: pissant

Check out posting history. ;)


20 posted on 05/28/2008 10:14:41 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: pissant
You have got a whiz bang solution.

Deny him his benefits from workers comp, which he ultimately paid for, then he can be treated at the emergency room, at taxpayer expense.

21 posted on 05/28/2008 10:15:31 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: dangerdoc
I can give you two reasons why illegal aliens should be covered under worker’s comp.

Come again...?

22 posted on 05/28/2008 10:16:10 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If ANYONE thinks the governments of this country are not TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL, this is a classic example.


23 posted on 05/28/2008 10:16:46 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, outrageous. You commit a crime and you get worker’s comp. Next step: workers comp for other criminals.


24 posted on 05/28/2008 10:19:01 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Ben Ficklin
Deny him his benefits from workers comp, which he ultimately paid for

Awwww. Breaks my heart to see a criminal ultimately not benefit from breaking the law, it does.

I may sniffle. Seriously.

25 posted on 05/28/2008 10:19:29 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Say..WHAT ????????????????

Where’s the Victim’s Comp for the Americans ?????????


26 posted on 05/28/2008 10:19:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Read my post!


27 posted on 05/28/2008 10:20:33 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: MovementConservative

Put those pics back up...

I’ve met Michelle in person a couple of times

3 actually...

She is sweet and humble and will even talk to lowly FReepers...

LOL


28 posted on 05/28/2008 10:22:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dangerdoc
Read my post!

Already have. That's how I was so easily able to point out the inherent idiocy, therein.

29 posted on 05/28/2008 10:22:25 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Just make it illegal to hire an illegal and the WC issue will resolve itself.


30 posted on 05/28/2008 10:24:17 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: dangerdoc

“Worker’s Comp insurance in expensive. Not covering them gives a company a big incentive for hiring illegals.”

In New Jersey employers are required to maintan WC coverage on all employees regarless of status. Should an employer fail to maintain coverage and a worker is injured, then the state picks up the tab via an uninsured employer’s fund.


31 posted on 05/28/2008 10:24:28 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
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To: Ben Ficklin

That’s a pretty bad solution. Mine is to treat him once on the business owner’s dime, then deport his illegal rear end back to Mexico/Guatemala/ElSalvador/Haiti/Ireland/Africa or wherever the hell he came from. And charge the SOB for his transportation.


32 posted on 05/28/2008 10:34:44 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: F15Eagle

The truth of the matter is the millionairs in washington have their money in euros and intend to bankrupt the country to make a dictatorship with them at the top.

Money is not enough, when power is to be hand too.

So they bait the trap with cheese to bring out as many rats as possible. Then the get the homeowners to beg for a differfent system.

Like passports to cross the borders, (Your papers please...), Hitler would be proud.

Funny thinking that the lack of passports would cause an illegal to stop coming into the country, when stopping free cash handouts will obviously halt the flow.

As long as it pays more to be illegal, more will be illegal.

Once they get the police powers, they will lock down the country so hard illegals cannot travel, nor can citizens.

Welcome to the New World Order...


33 posted on 05/28/2008 10:35:11 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: pissant
treat him once on the business owner’s dime, then deport his illegal rear end


34 posted on 05/28/2008 10:39:13 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I went in on a venture with my brother. He insisted on hiring Invaders. When one of his Invaders saw the end of the job coming, he cut himself on a saw. Although my brother paid for his medical expenses, the Invader filed a Workers Comp complaint here in California. The Invader went to a Chiropractor (for a cut) and my brother is liable for all expenses when the Invader decides he is cured.
It has been 5 months now, Just a note to all of you that place monetary values over your own country.


35 posted on 05/28/2008 10:45:31 AM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: dangerdoc

I can give you 2 reasons why illegal aliens should be deported:

1. They broke the law by entering this country illegally.

2. They are breaking the law by staying here illegally.


36 posted on 05/28/2008 10:49:41 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: bill1952
It's hilarious.

As if someone with a valid tourist or work visa gets up at seven in the morning in order to hang out-for the next five to six hours-in front of a Home Depot drinking Cuervo Gold and waiting for a shady contractor to pick him up.

37 posted on 05/28/2008 11:22:10 AM PDT by Reaganite1984
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To: MovementConservative

However, it sounds like you are keeping her used, formerly wet, toilet paper you got from the restroom she visited where you got the gum.


38 posted on 05/28/2008 11:24:39 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: American in Israel

The truth of the matter is the millionairs in washington have their money in euros ...

LOL! Chill out, leave Area 51, and take off the tinfoil.


39 posted on 05/28/2008 11:34:52 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: F15Eagle
The truth is, most of the millionaires we send to Washington care very little about you and me and don’t mind bankrupting the country in the process with their various self-serving agendas.

Ding, ding, ding! There it is, stop FR.

We have the FR Post of the Day

40 posted on 05/28/2008 11:39:34 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Better the illegals should get Worker’s Comp, as if they didn’t, greater would be for the employers advantage in hiring them.


41 posted on 05/28/2008 11:42:30 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If their employers are paying their WC and the employee is on the books then they should be covered. Could lead to an audit though.


42 posted on 05/28/2008 12:27:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: "America is the greatest country on earth, help me change America.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Set up for tomorrow’s ping list.


43 posted on 05/28/2008 12:42:41 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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...we sent Sidebar Moderator out for sandwiches and beer.

PBR or Full Sail?

44 posted on 05/28/2008 1:40:49 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


45 posted on 05/28/2008 1:42:36 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I even dumped all my cute pictures of her from my photobucket account.

"A fascinating addition to the ongoing conversation, re: illegal immigration in America. Thanks for sharing."

You are welcome. In addition to amusing myself and making a point, I also stirred 3 others enough that they felt compelled to post a reply.
Since I'm in the sharing mood today I will even help you out with a plan.
1. Call doctors office and schedule surgury.
2. Have proctologist remove stick from your rectum.
3. Go to a Mariners game and suck down a $6 beer.

46 posted on 05/28/2008 1:52:14 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So point away. I gave two good reasons why they should be insured. You have said nothing to refute either. If you want to have in intelligent discussion, I’m ready to go.

I have no problem with enforcing the immigration laws and I also have no problem enforcing the employment law. If you hire them, you’d better pay the insurance.

Here’s a third reason to chew on. If you hire someone to fix your roof and a member of their crew falls off and get hurt what happens? If they are not covered under worker’s comp, guess who is going to pay. And don’t think their status is going to save you.


47 posted on 05/28/2008 1:53:26 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Bryan24

I have no problems with either suggestion but I do not favor shady employers picking up cheap illegal labor and saving even more money not picking up WC insurance.


48 posted on 05/28/2008 1:57:21 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Brilliant

Worker’s Comp is compromise.

Before WC employers could deny liability using a number of defenses. The law enable an injured employee to get treatment without filing a lawsuit. As a compromise, they gave up claims of pain and suffering and punitive damages.

The law has its problems and tends to change over the years but over all helps the employer and employee.

Each state has the own WC laws so the specifics BTW.


49 posted on 05/28/2008 2:03:48 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: bill1952

I’ve worked for the WC Court here for over 30 years, I can assure you that legal American’s pull all kinds of shady tricks to try to get comp benefits, not just the illegals.


50 posted on 05/28/2008 2:56:01 PM PDT by Cudjo
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