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McClellan: Plame leak case was turning point
MSNBC.com ^ | May 29, 2008 | Mike Celzik

Posted on 05/29/2008 7:58:19 AM PDT by shamusotoole

The former Bush administration pitchman making explosive election-year charges about how the White House handled the Valerie Plame case and built the case for invading Iraq said Thursday that he went to Washington to change it and became “disillusioned” when he realized he was just a pawn in the never-ending political game.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bds; book; bushbashing; buymybook; democratnonsense; mcclellen; plame; plamegate; presidentbush; shadowgovernment; weasels
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This article betrays such an ignorance of the Plame outing case facts from one who purports to know something about them, that I believe McClellen has gone "Stockholm".
1 posted on 05/29/2008 7:58:21 AM PDT by shamusotoole
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To: shamusotoole

“Mongo pawn in game of life.”


2 posted on 05/29/2008 8:01:03 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: shamusotoole

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GEORGE, WILL YOU PLEASE DECLASSIFY WILSON’S CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY AND EXPOSE THE LIAR ONCE AND FOR ALL??? Yes, I’m shouting.


3 posted on 05/29/2008 8:01:04 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Just because you're running for President doesn't mean that you are the center of the universe")
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To: shamusotoole

A “sour grapes” lightweight just trying to sell a book.


4 posted on 05/29/2008 8:02:54 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: shamusotoole
The former Bush administration pitchman making explosive election-year charges about how the White House handled the Valerie Plame case and built the case for invading Iraq said Thursday that he went to Washington to change it and became “disillusioned” when he realized he was just a pawn in the never-ending political game.

What a book-pimping drama queen.

5 posted on 05/29/2008 8:03:26 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: shamusotoole

Just another schmuck trying to hawk a book before the “We hate Bush” moonbat market disappears. Kitty Litter Kelly sure has stiff competition.


6 posted on 05/29/2008 8:04:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: shamusotoole
...when he realized he was just a pawn in the never-ending political game.

What a nitwit. Did he really think (as an unelected mouthpiece) he wold have any relevant input into the country's policy? Of course he was a pawn, everybody who serves the President (or a Congressman) is a pawn.

7 posted on 05/29/2008 8:04:42 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Always Right
We invaded Iraq because of Valerie Plame? LOL LOL LOL
Some people have delusions of grandeur.
8 posted on 05/29/2008 8:05:32 AM PDT by angcat (Indian name "She who yells too much")
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To: shamusotoole
Every decision that is made is made politically. It depends on who has the authority, the information, the influence, etc.

If Politics stop, decision making stops.

The issue isn't whether or not the political game is played, but whether the tactics used are ethical or not.

9 posted on 05/29/2008 8:06:08 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: shamusotoole
What an A-s. Plame had nothing behind her allegations of any sort. She was outed by a Dem, her husband, and herself.
11 posted on 05/29/2008 8:07:56 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: shamusotoole
These quotes by Mclellan are meaningless. Of course there is a constant "political game" and when you read these stories Mclellan doesn't know anything new and he really doesn't say anything when you parse it out.

The "Plame case" was such a nothing event how could it be a "turning point" for anyone?

12 posted on 05/29/2008 8:08:06 AM PDT by Williams
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To: shamusotoole

This is payback for Bush refusing to back his mama in the election.

Richard Armitage was no way involved in the White House outing her, and Scooter Libby was foolish and was pinched by an overzealous prosecutor.

His lame excuse for trashing Bush is all personal, the guy was a pantywaist milquetoast in his official capacity and doesn’t have the b*lls to go face to face with the big boys, he sucker punches them when they are turned.


13 posted on 05/29/2008 8:08:18 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: shamusotoole

Congress, including many Democrats, made many speeches against Iraq and their WMD’s prior to 2000 and prior to the Iraq war without any influence from the Bush Administration.


15 posted on 05/29/2008 8:09:45 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: NonValueAdded
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GEORGE, WILL YOU PLEASE DECLASSIFY WILSON’S CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY AND EXPOSE THE LIAR ONCE AND FOR ALL???

Although you are preaching to the choir on that one, here's a big AMEN!!! Look what I found this morning in a search, it is from Nov 2007:

Publisher: McClellan doesn't believe Bush lied-(The FACTS Finally Come Out)

Personally, I don't understand all the manufactured hoopla about this story now, it is redux from last year.
16 posted on 05/29/2008 8:10:40 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: shamusotoole

McClellen smells REAL BAD! However when you are a skunk other skunks turn you on, like with $$$...and other suck-ups.. nuf said...


17 posted on 05/29/2008 8:12:01 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: Abathar

Libby’s prosecution was payback by Fitzpatrick for Libby beating him in the first Marc Rich trial. It was such a bag job that Denis Collins the Jury Foreman was a personal friend and coworker of Star Witness Tim Russert.


18 posted on 05/29/2008 8:12:17 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Abathar

Libby’s prosecution was payback by Fitzpatrick for Libby beating him in the first Marc Rich trial. It was such a bag job that Denis Collins the Jury Foreman was a personal friend and coworker of Star Witness Tim Russert.


19 posted on 05/29/2008 8:12:17 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Abathar

Libby’s prosecution was payback by Fitzpatrick for Libby beating him in the first Marc Rich trial. It was such a bag job that Denis Collins the Jury Foreman was a personal friend and coworker of Star Witness Tim Russert.


20 posted on 05/29/2008 8:12:22 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Abathar

Libby’s prosecution was payback by Fitzpatrick for Libby beating him in the first Marc Rich trial. It was such a bag job that Denis Collins the Jury Foreman was a personal friend and coworker of Star Witness Tim Russert.


21 posted on 05/29/2008 8:12:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NonValueAdded

“FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GEORGE, WILL YOU PLEASE DECLASSIFY WILSON’S CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY AND EXPOSE THE LIAR ONCE AND FOR ALL??? Yes, I’m shouting.”

Ditto! I am sick about the fact that NO ONE on our side fights back at the crazy DEMS! RINO’s all it seems!


22 posted on 05/29/2008 8:13:09 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: shamusotoole

He must have been contacted by the Wilson’s attorney to get the case revived. I wouldn’t doubt if some judge allows it and allows McClellan to be defense witness.


23 posted on 05/29/2008 8:13:12 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: NonValueAdded

That would be “mean spirited”.

IE, it would be pointing out a lie of the left.


24 posted on 05/29/2008 8:13:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RexBeach

“Mongo pawn in game of life.”

Mongo was more eloqent and better informed than pudgy Scotto.


25 posted on 05/29/2008 8:13:47 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Always Right

An NPR listening drama queen.


26 posted on 05/29/2008 8:14:31 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: shamusotoole
He said Thursday that he went to Washington to change it and became “disillusioned

What a pompous, delusional buffoon. I can't imagine that he believes this himself either.

27 posted on 05/29/2008 8:15:24 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yep. You got it exactly right.

IMO, he is without honor and should turn in his man card ASAP.


28 posted on 05/29/2008 8:16:34 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: shamusotoole

29 posted on 05/29/2008 8:20:18 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Once a pawn, always a pawn. (But once a Knight is enough)


30 posted on 05/29/2008 8:22:18 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: massgopguy

Wow, a quad post, too much coffee??


31 posted on 05/29/2008 8:23:40 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: shamusotoole
*sigh* Just another sensitive, enlightened soul somehow manipulated and deceived by that inept bungler, Bush. How is it that a president so moronic that he needs someone to wipe the drool off his chin manages constantly to completely hoodwink so many brilliant people?? It's a mystery.
32 posted on 05/29/2008 8:23:41 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: weegee

I’m afraid you’re right. And its catching in DC/Alexandria


33 posted on 05/29/2008 8:25:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: shamusotoole
that he went to Washington to change it and became “disillusioned” when he realized he was just a pawn in the never-ending political game.

Wow, just another altruist for "change".

And here's a tip, peckerlips: it's not a game, the stakes are high and you threw in your hand way too early for short money.

Once a chump always a chump.

34 posted on 05/29/2008 8:25:53 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: EagleUSA

He’s a press secretary and he thought he was going to “change” WAshington? I guess it’s easier than getting elected.


35 posted on 05/29/2008 8:26:50 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: TC Rider
Here's a link to speculation (in 2005) about his being another sort of chess piece.

Maybe it's making sense now.

36 posted on 05/29/2008 8:27:28 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Always Right; devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave
What a book-pimping drama queen.

37 posted on 05/29/2008 8:29:26 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: All; shamusotoole
THE SOROS-McCLELLEN CONNECTION
38 posted on 05/29/2008 8:29:30 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: shamusotoole
I just heard a sound bite of Scotty droning on that he, “disagreed with the President's policies.” He apparently thought he was or should have been a policy maker and not a ventriloquist’s dummy.
39 posted on 05/29/2008 8:37:11 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: A_perfect_lady
"How is it that a president so moronic that he needs someone to wipe the drool off his chin manages constantly to completely hoodwink so many brilliant people?? "

Let me correct your screen name. A perfect tool. A lady, no.
40 posted on 05/29/2008 8:38:22 AM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Pretty funny. Just the yesterday on another thread I said to look for the David Brock connection.


41 posted on 05/29/2008 8:39:44 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: shamusotoole

If it were my call, Snott would spend the rest of his sorry little life at Gitmo.


42 posted on 05/29/2008 8:44:15 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Do not run from the Republican Party. Take it back!)
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Wow, a quad post, too much coffee??

He was cleaning his mouse and it discharged by accident.

43 posted on 05/29/2008 8:45:22 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: jrooney

You need to re-read lady’s post. It is dripping with sarcasm, not criticism of the President.


44 posted on 05/29/2008 8:51:34 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I honestly don’t think McClellan is intelligent enough to know the difference. At one time, I thought he was a nice enough guy who was in a job way above his pay grade. But he took care of the nice enough guy bit with the publication of this book. I guess that runs in his family. And it’s altogether possible that he honestly doesn’t see what the publisher and the dems gain out of it.


45 posted on 05/29/2008 8:52:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: shamusotoole

My daughter knows Scott McClellan, he hired her for her first job, right out of college. He was the top assistant to a state senator in Texas. He did all the work, though because the Senator had parkinsons and was getting worse. Scott loved his work and lived Republican politics and life in Austin. He was a UT grad. He played tennis for UT and was involved in alumni activities. He has just given up his whole life for this book.
He won’t be able to go back and face his friends.

What amazes me is that he seems so self satisfied with what he has done. He actually seems more self confident and animated. My daughter described him as being kind of robotic, a real behind the scenes kind of guy. He sure doesn’t look like that now.


46 posted on 05/29/2008 8:53:21 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: RexBeach

THIS Mongo need candy-gram.


47 posted on 05/29/2008 8:56:00 AM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: shamusotoole

48 posted on 05/29/2008 8:57:07 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: jrooney
Let me correct your screen name. A perfect tool. A lady, no.

I'm being sarcastic. They claim he's a moron, then they claim he fooled them.

49 posted on 05/29/2008 9:04:17 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Williams
I figured desk jockey Plume and sidekick Wilson were “nonevents” but alas things like the number of states in our union and the truth in general are of lesser importance.
50 posted on 05/29/2008 9:05:23 AM PDT by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. And greatly missing President Reagan)
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