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Intel Agencies Fighting Turf War
AP/Military.com ^ | May 29, 2008 | staff

Posted on 05/29/2008 8:08:29 AM PDT by gandalftb

WASHINGTON - A turf war is being waged in the closed world of U.S. intelligence agencies that could disrupt how spy operations are carried out around the world, according to former and current CIA officials.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which for the past four years has overseen U.S. intelligence agencies, is angling for more power over and insight into spy operations worldwide. At stake is the authority of the CIA's legendary station chiefs, who for 60 years have enjoyed a great deal of autonomy in overseas intelligence operations.

In 2005, the director designated an intelligence officer to be his personal representative at embassies, military commands and posts. Overseas, that top dog was the station chief.

Now, that may be changing. National Intelligence Director Michael McConnell is writing a new directive that leaves open the possibility that the title could be bestowed on someone other than a CIA station chief. In some cases - particularly in countries where there are large concentrations of U.S. troops - the director may anoint the defense attache, one former intelligence official suggested. In others, where there are fewer human spies but more intelligence collection by electronic gadgets, it may be the senior National Security Agency officer.

CIA Director Michael Hayden said the CIA is willing to cede ground to other agencies at some military commands and in the United States, but the authority and responsibility now vested in CIA station chiefs makes them the only logical choice overseas.

"We believe very strongly that overseas CIA station chiefs should be the DNI reps," Hayden said in an interview with The Associated Press this week. "It's just good government."

The White House and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment.

Station chiefs are the top CIA officer in a given country. They are the intelligence adviser to the U.S. ambassador and the primary liaison with foreign intelligence agencies. They also have de facto veto power over other U.S. intelligence agencies' planned operations inside the country, said a former special forces officer and other intelligence officials. All spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

What looks like a simple adjustment to an organizational chart could have far-reaching implications. Among the top concerns of current and former CIA officials:

-It could lead to a bisected intelligence structure in the field that has the station chief on one side carrying out day-to-day spy operations and an intelligence director representative on the other trying to manage those same operations, and coordinate other intelligence outfits as well. This could complicate and slow missions that require rapid decisions.

-It may confuse or degrade long-standing relationships with foreign intelligence agencies, which for decades have trusted the CIA with their nations' secrets.

-And would the director's representative be able to overrule a station chief?

Mark Lowenthal, a former assistant director of the CIA, said the director's bid for more power overseas is not necessarily a bad idea, but it is certain to upset the CIA, which sees it as a threat to its traditional autonomy.

"I'm willing to listen to a conversation about the idea. But I can assure it's going to have the CIA up in arms," Lowenthal said.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence is meant to direct and draw together the disparate and sometimes uncooperative efforts of the 16 intelligence agencies. It also advises the president, National Security Council and Homeland Security Council on intelligence matters. It also delivers the president's daily intelligence briefing, a job that previously belonged to the CIA.

Congress created the office in 2004 in hastily written legislation produced after the report of the 9/11 Commission, a bipartisan panel that investigated government missteps before the 2001 terror attacks on the United States.

But there was a birth defect: The law failed to give the national intelligence director much actual power. While the director has direct access to the president, he neither controls the budgets nor the personnel of the intelligence agencies he ostensibly leads. All the intelligence agencies under the director report to their respective Cabinet secretaries - the defense secretary, the secretary of state and the attorney general, for instance.

The one exception to that is the CIA. Because the CIA director is not a Cabinet secretary, the DNI's office has had direct authority over it for the past four years.

The DNI's new directive is wrapped up in the revision of executive order 12333, created during the Reagan administration and being updated to reflect the law that established the DNI's office.

The director is also seeking authority in the executive order to "synchronize intelligence collection" activities abroad, another responsibility that generally falls to the station chief, according to a former official who read a draft of the executive order.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cia; intel

1 posted on 05/29/2008 8:08:29 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

One of the beauties of CIA is it’s broad interest in foreign subnational economics and politics. Essential for the heads-up we need. Hard to see how reorganization would help or sustain that effort.


2 posted on 05/29/2008 8:11:48 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

Not a bad idea since traitors and underminers like Valerie Plame populate that place now.


3 posted on 05/29/2008 8:12:30 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: gandalftb

It is a byproduct of what Washington has degenerated into over the past 30 years. A giant political country club. Politics and empowerment over the country and the people every time.

Just more of the same....


4 posted on 05/29/2008 8:13:42 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: gandalftb

This maybe a bit picky, but would someone tell the media that it’s not “the CIA”, just “CIA” as much as we don’t refer to God as “the God” (comparisons noted :):) ).


5 posted on 05/29/2008 8:15:57 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

A spook friend of the family from years ago always said there is No Such Agency...


6 posted on 05/29/2008 8:23:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: gandalftb

The CIA had the DDR pegged as the fourth strongest economic power in the 80’s.


7 posted on 05/29/2008 8:26:46 AM PDT by AU72
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To: KC_Conspirator; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Enchante; STARWISE

“Not a bad idea since traitors and underminers like Valerie Plame populate that place now.”

Close the damn liberal whore house down. Bull doze the buildings and sell the land to the highest bidders.

The CIA has been controlled by America Hating Liberals since the days of Jimmy Carter and has done little if anything to protect our country.


8 posted on 05/29/2008 8:35:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Pastor Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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To: gandalftb

ALL >GOV agencies do this, no big surprise.

Each is a little kingdom unto itself and the Lords and Barons of these kingdoms do not like to share anything.


9 posted on 05/29/2008 9:01:38 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK
Dave, Jack
Youse guys think it worthy of a ping to the list?
10 posted on 05/29/2008 12:28:03 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: gandalftb

The biggest problem is their budgets are cut and they are still geared to waste money.


11 posted on 05/29/2008 12:30:06 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave
Youse guys think it worthy of a ping to the list?

Yeah....hit it, Bob. Perhaps we'll see the member's reactions to the Chinese Fire Drill that's happening among the intel agencies.

(not so) Secret SNAFU
12 posted on 05/29/2008 7:20:19 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; Ax; ...

MI Ping


13 posted on 05/29/2008 8:24:44 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet

Thanks for the Ping.


14 posted on 05/29/2008 8:26:51 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: ASA Vet

Thanks for the ping.

I know next to nothing on what goes on in those places, but I assumed such infighting would be the norm in usual times and accelerated by the extra layer of bureaucracy that was added on top after 9/11.

Takes a strong ego to rise above the rest in any such place. That sort of personality tends toward viewing all within their reach as their personal domain and themselves as unquestionable Lords.

That’s just an outsider looking in with nothing really for info except was drizzles out of the ruptured bladder of our official 5th column of media.


15 posted on 05/29/2008 9:21:27 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
"...viewing all within their reach as their personal domain and themselves as unquestionable Lords."

I think that's a line from the (secret) CIA oath of ascension.

16 posted on 05/29/2008 10:55:24 PM PDT by norton
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To: ASA Vet

Seems to me that some deadwood from the clintoon admin has obstructed the flow of good intel and will not go away quietly, thus requiring a workaround. That’s my between the lines reading.


17 posted on 05/30/2008 8:46:43 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: gandalftb
One of the beauties of CIA is it’s broad interest in foreign subnational economics and politics

And also one of the worst parts of CIA - it's senior member's unchecked attempts to affect policy in foreign subnational economics and politics.

CIA should analyze - period. When it attempts to turn analysis into policy it must to be told in unequivable terms that those actions are above their pay-grade.
18 posted on 06/09/2008 1:44:25 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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