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McClellan's Publisher a Liberal: Advances Soros & Slams Limbaugh
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Posted on 05/29/2008 9:44:56 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

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To: Huck
To take a book and suddenly edit it to tell another story calls into question the books validity.

It completely calls into question the motives of the author to change completely the tone of the book.

The fact the Republican author has his book edited by people connected with the Nation magazine and published by a company owned by George Soros does call into question the validity.

“Apparently it does.” To who? Someone who would believe anything negative about Bush without even questioning it?

If you can't see this no one can help you.

21 posted on 05/29/2008 2:26:29 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
To take a book and suddenly edit it to tell another story calls into question the books validity.

All books have editors. There is no evidence of anything nefarious. So Scott's out hawking a book he disagrees with? Where did he say that?

22 posted on 05/29/2008 2:30:34 PM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: y6162
...“a right-wing culture that tends to be as coarse and leaden as his demeanor could be buoyant,” charging Buckley provided “unfortunate cover to others who followed with a spirit that was distinctly and consistently malevolent.”

More than anything, this is the problem with today's left. To disagree with their dogma is to be perceived as somehow evil.

They are incapable of rational argument, unable to understand or accept any fact which challenges their faith.

In this sense, they are like terrorists. They cannot be reasoned with. Leaving only one way to defeat them...

23 posted on 05/29/2008 2:36:13 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

“More than anything, this is the problem with today’s left. To disagree with their dogma is to be perceived as somehow evil.They are incapable of rational argument, unable to understand or accept any fact which challenges their faith.”

Tell me about it. I got into a fist fight with a jerk at a cocktail party last Thursday because I said global warming is a hoax. Her said lets go outside..I said let’s rock...He got outside and froze. His wife came out and grabbed him by the ear and took him home. =)


24 posted on 05/29/2008 2:52:56 PM PDT by y6162
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To: y6162
That's just it.

There's no reasoning with a liberal. There is no such thing as polite disagreement.

It's always "You're evil. I hate you." Then they throw their drink at you. Or stomp their foot. Or start crying.

Gotta admit, though, I'd be shocked if a liberal ever challenged me to "go outside". Usually, the very idea of "fighting like a man" never occurs to them. I guess, in the end, it didn't much appeal to your antagonist, either.

25 posted on 05/29/2008 3:22:12 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

“Gotta admit, though, I’d be shocked if a liberal ever challenged me to “go outside”.

I think he had imbibed as much liquid courage as I had. I was waiting for him to raise his hands so I could say self defense.

I freely admit I have an early case of election rage. In 2004 it was so bad I almost punched out a 84 yr old man who had the temerity to say Bush sucked. I heard later he died. Good.


26 posted on 05/29/2008 3:29:45 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Huck

You are too far gone. I can’t help you.

Good luck with life.


27 posted on 05/29/2008 3:42:05 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Huck

Larry Elder made some good points today:

Scott McClellan was NOT the press secretary on the run up to the war or at the start of the war.

Scott McClellan was FIRED by the Bush Whitehouse.

Ari Fleisher was the press secretary on the run up to the war and the beginning of the war.

Ari Fleisher wrote a positive memoir about Bush.

Ari Fleisher was NOT invited on GMA and Time magazine slammed his memoir.

George Tenent wrote a positive memoir about Bush.

George Tenent was the Direcor of the CIA under Clinton and under Bush.

George Tenent’s book was slammed by the New York Time and he did not get on GMA.

Again, Scott McClellan was FIRED BY THE BUSH WHITEHOIUSE.


28 posted on 05/29/2008 3:43:05 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Miss Didi

Yep, and Bill Hemmer mentioned to Brit Hume that McClellan rode on President Bush’s back for 10 years.


29 posted on 05/29/2008 3:46:34 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: BunnySlippers
Good points as to how the MSM has a double standard---nice to anti-Bush authors, ignores friendly Bush authors.

But it says NOTHING about the accuracy of the book.

30 posted on 05/29/2008 4:39:37 PM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: Huck

Pinpointing the motivation of the writer goes a long way to determining truth.

But more importantly, both Tenet and Fleischer’s books DIRECTLY REFUTE McClellan’s. And Tenet was surely in a position to take Bush down.


31 posted on 05/29/2008 4:47:01 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: BunnySlippers
Pinpointing the motivation of the writer goes a long way to determining truth.

But this thread is about McClellan's publisher and his motives. I'm saying who gives a crap about that? A publisher can't publish something he agrees with? It's a very weak--extremely weak--line of defense. And just to restate--they're talking bout the publisher's motives, not the author.

But more importantly, both Tenet and Fleischer’s books DIRECTLY REFUTE McClellan’s. And Tenet was surely in a position to take Bush down.

This would be a pertinent point of counter argument. I realize this is a public forum. I and others probably say a lot of silly things. But I'm seeing stuff like Scott's gay or he's fat or whatever. Now it's SOROS! Sure, throw the bogey man in there while you're at it.

If there are other books and players who refute the claims, then somebody better be putting that stuff out there. All I'm hearing is personal attacks at McClellan. People saying he's just in it for the money, doesn't even know what's in the book, or he's stuck with it, etc. But where's any sort of proof or substantiation of any of that? It comes across very poorly, in my view.

I'm one of those who could be convinced one way or another. I haven't read any of those books. I am not going to read this one. I am worldly enough to know a lot of office politics is going on here. Washington DC has got to be the mother of all office politics. Hell, it's the one place where "office politics" is the actual job!

I'm not jumping on anyone's bandwagon here. But I am going to take my devil's advocate position against lame arguments. What specifically do Tenet and Fleischer refute?

32 posted on 05/29/2008 7:08:02 PM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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