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Krauthammer: Carbon Chastity
The Washington Post ^ | May 30, 2008 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 05/30/2008 3:55:18 AM PDT by Puzzleman

I'm not a global warming believer. I'm not a global warming denier. I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2into the atmosphere but is equally convinced that those who presume to know exactly where that leads are talking through their hats.

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Yet on the basis of this speculation, environmental activists, attended by compliant scientists and opportunistic politicians, are advocating radical economic and social regulation. "The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity," warns Czech President Vaclav Klaus, "is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious, arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: carbon; globalwarming; krauthammer; warming
CSPAN has the video of Klaus' speech to the National Press Club. Here is the link.
1 posted on 05/30/2008 3:55:19 AM PDT by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman
"I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere..."

Shut up Charles, you are not helping when you write things like this.

This is just another example of Washington DC "conservative" thought. It seems to me he is saying, that not only does he agree with the watermelon Algorian environmentalist premise, but that he is even smarter than they are and REALLY has it figured out. No wonder he loves Juan McLame.

2 posted on 05/30/2008 4:17:49 AM PDT by Weaponier (Someone turn off the lights...)
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To: Puzzleman

Why don’t people like Krauthammer run for office. At least he has the intellectual power such that if I disagree with him, at least I’ll be comforted by the knowledge that he has a rational reason for what he’s doing.


3 posted on 05/30/2008 4:18:10 AM PDT by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: wolfpat

I like Krauthammer, but I think he missed the boat on this one. We are about as close to understanding our climate as Theodoric of York was to understanding the germ theory of disease. I’m all in favor of true scientific research but the enviro-nazis so thoroughly control the agenda that it’s just throwing money to high priests to debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 4:25:48 AM PDT by henkster (Obama '08: A 3rd world state, here & now!)
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To: Weaponier
"I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere..."

That's because instinctual believing isn't thinking. That same instinctual believing would probably believe that adding lots of oxygen to the atmosphere would be a good thing because of the imagery of suffocating from lack of oxygen. But adding more of what seems to be a good thing would result in a lot more oxidative damage both biologically and otherwise. It would result in fires burning more fiercely and rapidly. A lot of this would be very bad. Likewise his instinctual belief that "lots" of CO2 would not be very good is based on the idea of CO2 as a waste product. But it is also a raw material needed by plants to grow and to replenish oxygen. With respect to global warming, he needs to lay off the instinct and rely on knowing and thinking.
5 posted on 05/30/2008 4:26:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Weaponier
"I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere..."

CO2 is no more dangerous to our atmosphere than oxygen.

6 posted on 05/30/2008 4:30:09 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Weaponier

There are quite a few of us that agree with Krauthhammer, and no, we will not shut up, sorry. I’d rather be right. There are alternatives to the Chicken Little-Ostrich dichotomy that has become the norm these days.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 4:34:25 AM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: aruanan
" ... With respect to global warming, he needs to lay off the instinct and rely on knowing and thinking."


Sadly, so do millions of others, and while their at it they may want to figure out how to rid the planet of all the charlatans and money grubbers.


Hello ... we're from the government, and we're here to help lighten your wallet.

8 posted on 05/30/2008 4:37:24 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Puzzleman

Think how pleasant our life will be if government begins regulating carbon as has been proposed in the UK.

You won’t be able to move, breathe, eat, fart or have a good sit down without deducting from your carbon allowance.

Myself, I’d rather be dead than live as someone else permits me to.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 4:38:25 AM PDT by IamConservative (Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
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To: henkster

I think your point and his are the same.

If anybody should research this, it should be Exxon and the other companies. They have the most to lose by not having accurate information (They’ll make money either way, but they need to know which way is right).

As for his statement about the amount of CO2 we’re throwing into the air, I can’t argue. He admits there’s no real data indicating whether this is good or bad, but it seems bad. I’ve worked in a coal fired power plant, and there’s a LOT of stuff going out of those stacks, stuff that ain’t good for you or me.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 5:02:16 AM PDT by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: Puzzleman
The Left is totalitarian. It wants to raise your taxes, manage your lifestyle, and reduce your choices - all in the name of protecting Mother Earth. The so-called "Green Agenda" is even more dangerous than socialism but its has the same ultimate end in view - the complete subordination of the individual to the state.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 05/30/2008 5:06:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Paradox
There are alternatives to the Chicken Little-Ostrich dichotomy that has become the norm these days.

That's a completely false dichotomy, but at least you sound like Bill O'Reilly when you say it.

12 posted on 05/30/2008 5:20:19 AM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: Puzzleman

Just as the ash heap of history beckoned, the intellectual left was handed the ultimate salvation: environmentalism. Now the experts will regulate your life not in the name of the proletariat or Fabian socialism but — even better — in the name of Earth itself.


Dr Krauthammer has it exactly right, as usual.

Of course, Rush was the first to point out that the Green movement was essentially Red, which was a prescient observation. Once you realize that, it places the entire debate into proper focus.


13 posted on 05/30/2008 5:23:53 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Paradox

Please go on. What are a few of the alternatives?

And what exactly is it that we should agree with Charles on?

I mean, he really seems to have gone out of his way to say nothing here.


14 posted on 05/30/2008 5:27:43 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Vote for John McCain along with Tom DeLay, John Cornyn and the majority of conservatives.)
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To: Weaponier
Here's Krauthammer's 11/11/05 column on why $3.00 a gallon should be the floor, not the ceiling.

Some conservative...

15 posted on 05/30/2008 5:29:32 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Paradox
There are quite a few of us that agree with Krauthhammer, and no, we will not shut up, sorry. I’d rather be right. There are alternatives to the Chicken Little-Ostrich dichotomy that has become the norm these days.

You and he are free to have and voice your opinion. I just do not agree with it. This world we have been blessed with has been around for alot longer than we have and just in the last few decades we have the technology to truely study it.

I get tired of "conservatives" coming out and trying to out liberal "liberals."

16 posted on 05/30/2008 7:01:58 AM PDT by Weaponier (Someone turn off the lights...)
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To: wolfpat
Why don’t people like Krauthammer run for office.

They have, its John McCain.

He admits there’s no real data indicating whether this is good or bad, but it seems bad. I’ve worked in a coal fired power plant, and there’s a LOT of stuff going out of those stacks, stuff that ain’t good for you or me.

Thank you for your work to help keep this country moving forward and not keeping us stuck in the past. Just because something "seems bad" does not make it so. When the Earth passed through the trail Hailey's comet made in the early 1900s people thought it was going to be devastating to us, because it "seemed bad." We need more research and study. Not just of our planet but of the sun and all of creation.

I think this just boils down to another example of man's hubris.

17 posted on 05/30/2008 7:31:35 AM PDT by Weaponier (Someone turn off the lights...)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

18 posted on 06/02/2008 3:48:36 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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