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Ozone-Depleting Inhalers Being Phased Out (Ozone means nothing when you're dead)
Washington Post ^ | 5/30/2008 | Steven Reinberg

Posted on 05/30/2008 5:39:41 PM PDT by tobyhill

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1 posted on 05/30/2008 5:42:02 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: taraytarah

ping


2 posted on 05/30/2008 5:44:53 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: tobyhill

But the damn things do not work!! Nothing like finding out your inhaler needs to be cleaned because the ozone friendly inhaler clogged.


3 posted on 05/30/2008 5:45:15 PM PDT by Dawggie
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To: tobyhill

I have very mild asthma. These new inhalers are junk. I can’t imagine the panic of someone in a full-blown asthma attack reaching for one of these “rescue” inhalers only to find that it won’t.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 5:45:47 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: tobyhill

Bunk and more bunk...


5 posted on 05/30/2008 5:45:49 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Mygirlsmom
I still use an inhaler on the rare occasion that I get an allergy induced asthma attack and I'm instantly better after using it. I guarantee this new “ozone-protecting” piece of crap is going to get someone killed.
6 posted on 05/30/2008 5:48:53 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

I tried one of the new ones, ProAir. It is MUCH more expensive than my old albuterol and doesn’t seem to work as well at all.

I’ve now found something else that works though. If anyone is in the same boat, you might want to try Combivent.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 5:49:12 PM PDT by AngieGal
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To: AngieGal

I don’t want a change from something that works for me. This ozone protection crap doesn’t work.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 5:51:20 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Mygirlsmom

It’s obviously time to stock up on enough inhalers to last me for years to come.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 5:55:29 PM PDT by eclecticEel (You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.)
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To: tobyhill
The drug I suggested is a combination of albuterol and another, stronger drug. It works for me. If you can't get your old one, you might want to at least try it.

I agree that this whole change is ridiculous. The amount of supposed ozone damage from these little units is negligible at best. Why put people in danger over this?

10 posted on 05/30/2008 5:56:26 PM PDT by AngieGal
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To: tobyhill

I use albuterol every night.

If I don’t take it, I don’t wake up.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 5:57:16 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: AngieGal

Thank you for the info about Combivent. My son has severe asthma, a heart problem, extreme allergies, etc. I will give him this information.


12 posted on 05/30/2008 5:57:51 PM PDT by kitkat (Over the Hill(ary))
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To: tobyhill

I have been using the new inhalers for the past year. The quality of my life and the degree of activity I’m able to enjoy has been much reduced. I used to be able to run for two miles! Now I can barely jog half a block.

It’s the same medication, albuterol, but it’s driven out by a different propellant. Just doesn’t go as deeply into the lungs. VERY frustrating.

The only alternative is to get a nebulizer machine and some liquid albuterol and saline solution. This is what your doctor would do for you if you came into his office with a bronchospasm. The trouble is, of course, that you can’t take the nebulizer with you if you’re going on a hike or a camping trip, and it’s awkward to drag around even if you’re just going to the office. But when push comes to shove, it does work. No propellants, just drug + saline + air.

And take your inhaled steroids so you don’t need much in the way of bronchodilators.


13 posted on 05/30/2008 5:59:43 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: tobyhill

This is more crap from the left. I can’t take it anymore. What are people that have asthma suppose to do? Albuteral is the drug in the inhalers that helps asthma, isn’t it?!!


14 posted on 05/30/2008 5:59:59 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: camerakid400

Liberalism and environmentalism is deadly. Must be defeated.


15 posted on 05/30/2008 6:00:43 PM PDT by brushcop (B-Co. 2/69 3rd Infantry Div., "Sledgehammer!" ...and keep hammering 'em!)
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To: AngieGal

I’m griping about it now but in December I’ll be forced to change something that has worked for me for years now. I’ll give your suggestion a try because I trust you and not some crack smoking politician that jumped on the ozone bandwagon.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 6:00:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: AngieGal
Combivent is albuterol plus another medication. I've used it in the past and found it to be helpful, but my combivent inhaler used the CFC's as well, so I wonder if the "new" formulation would be any better.

Albuterol worked just fine when the dispensing mechanism (CFC's) actually propelled the medication. These new ones just kind of "spurt" and you need to really inhale to get the medication in where it needs to be. But guess what--when you need it is when you CAN'T inhale.

17 posted on 05/30/2008 6:03:40 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: camerakid400

Stock up on them.


18 posted on 05/30/2008 6:04:09 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Oh ... and the new inhalers are thought to triple the cost to the patient.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 6:04:44 PM PDT by sono (The best Democrat in the race is John McCain.)
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To: tobyhill

I use mine so rarely that it lasts for quite a long time, but we already can’t get the CFC kind here in WI. Any idea where/how I could find a few to stock up on?


20 posted on 05/30/2008 6:06:14 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: ottbmare; tobyhill; kitkat
You all may want to know about a wonderful nebulizer that I use. It is tiny, silent and AA battery operated. You could easily take it hiking or anywhere for that matter.

It is the Omron NE-U22V MicroAir.



I bought ours on ebay, but you can find them online for about $200. I still use my inhaler most of the time, but this one comes in handy when I or the kids need it. I hope this helps someone.
21 posted on 05/30/2008 6:10:47 PM PDT by AngieGal
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To: Mygirlsmom
I get mine at CVS here in Dallas Texas and I saw them at Tom Thumb Grocery. Walgreens quit carrying them last year. If I get to the worse case scenario then I'll go down to Mexico.
22 posted on 05/30/2008 6:11:20 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

My 80 year old Mom needed one of these today. According to this news, she will be in trouble.

Geesh, I hate the people behind this crap.


23 posted on 05/30/2008 6:13:44 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: AngieGal

Of course it would be more expensive and not work as well. The government said this is what asmatics have to use. The government said we could only use low-flow toilets. They use more water than the older ones because you have to flush more often! Can only wonder how the government mandate about the kind of TV reception we can have starting next February will work. It’s more expensive, that’s for sure. By the way, I’m a life long asmatic and have COPD. Doc put me on Advair. It’s ok but does not work as well as albuterol.


24 posted on 05/30/2008 6:16:41 PM PDT by tob2 (Vote for McCain!)
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To: indylindy
I hope your mom is ok. The BS is going to get someone killed.
25 posted on 05/30/2008 6:18:29 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Dang. My albuteral-using husband won’t be happy to learn this latest enviro-fascist news. Thanks for posting, though. Good to know.


26 posted on 05/30/2008 6:18:42 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: tobyhill
They are junk. The velocity is lower so the medicine does not go as deep, and oh, because of the new formulation, there's no such thing as a generic inhaler so hold on to your wallet, there are new possible interactions / side effects with the "inert" ingredients. There will be deaths but I suppose in the equation to save the planet a few asthmatics are expendable.
27 posted on 05/30/2008 6:19:56 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: eclecticEel
It’s obviously time to stock up on enough inhalers to last me for years to come.

Almost past time ... your pharmacist is probably rationing them now. Best to ask. The expiration date will not be your friend, however.

28 posted on 05/30/2008 6:21:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: tobyhill

It will be like the illegal toilets that are smuggled in from Canada. Unless they have been banned in Canada too. You never know with control freak idiots.


29 posted on 05/30/2008 6:22:20 PM PDT by xp38
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To: tobyhill

My mother isn’t doing too good today. She cannot walk well anymore. This asthma is scaring me with her because she seems even weaker.

The eviro busy bodies need to be stopped and forced to die by their own standards.

I really have had about enough of this.

Thank you for caring. You are very nice and it is appreciated.


30 posted on 05/30/2008 6:22:25 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: fullchroma
As far as the Government and eco-terrorist care, we can all go back to the old fashion way, hold our heads over boiling water.
31 posted on 05/30/2008 6:22:34 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
“I'll go down to Mexico.”

They will find you. They made bringing Cipro back illegal a couple of years ago. They will do the same with Albuterol.

The enviro nazis are going to kill us all. But I'm really glad we got this well Republican president to protect us from the Democrats.

32 posted on 05/30/2008 6:24:15 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: AngieGal; aculeus; AnAmericanMother; Billthedrill
The amount of supposed ozone damage from these little units is negligible at best.

This is orders of magnitude nuttier than Howard Hughes and his germ-phobia.

33 posted on 05/30/2008 6:26:01 PM PDT by dighton
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To: tob2

Advair blows.


34 posted on 05/30/2008 6:26:13 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: indylindy

Sounds like your mom is in good hands and prayers she gets better. Asthma is very scary and sometimes deadly so if using the inhalers for saving lives means breaking the law then breaking the law is something that will be done.


35 posted on 05/30/2008 6:29:42 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: AngieGal

try Combivent..

Not meant to replace fast acting inhalers.


36 posted on 05/30/2008 6:33:52 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: tobyhill

Thanks, my Dad and Mom both are still with me. Great people they are. Mom is a spunky loving little gal.

I am worried about her, but she has Dad and good care, plus two kids who love her dearly!


37 posted on 05/30/2008 6:34:15 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy

I will lift you and your dear mother up in prayer; my mother is using these also, and we are in the same situation. It is so hard to watch them struggle... I guess I am just not used to seeing my mother having to use a walker and oxygen. I’m grateful that she is still with me, though! But these new inhalers are a disgrace...

I have several older adults in our church who are also heavily reliant on inhalers, and they are truly suffering with these new “ozone friendly” inhalers. They are saying they DO NOT WORK - but they are still required to pay WAY MORE for them...

I am so frustrated with these petty control freaks making life harder for these people who already suffer SO much.


38 posted on 05/30/2008 6:36:55 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: brushcop
Liberalism and environmentalism is deadly. Must be defeated.

This was exactly the sort of BS I thought would be addressed when the Republican party took power.

39 posted on 05/30/2008 6:42:51 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: dandelion

Bless your mother, she sound in about the same shape as my Mom. My Mom is in a pain with her back and the coughing from the asthma has made her really weak.

I have always thoought God led us to these things that eased suffering. He leads us there and nutty people take it away from those who benefitted from something so simple.

I had shots every week for 13 years as a kid for asthma. I did outgrow it for the most part, but every once in a while I need an albuterol inhaler. Scary stuff here.

I guess we can both pray our Moms will be with us longer. I really just am not ever going to be ready to lose her.


40 posted on 05/30/2008 6:43:12 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: dandelion

actually I wonder about those people who are sensitive to Florescent and halogen lights.

Will the envirowackos be as compulsive as they were with peanut shells?

Or will it be the needs of the many must sacrafice the few.


41 posted on 05/30/2008 6:43:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kingattax
Another goal of Global Warming Alarmism:

Control All Levels of Government
Control Economy
Control Fuel Production & Availability
Control Food Production & Distribution
Control Healthcare.....

42 posted on 05/30/2008 6:50:14 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: tobyhill

Albuterol has been available in HFA propellants for quite some time now. The real scandal is with salmeterol, which doesn’t adapt well to HFA. It’s been replaced in the U.S. by a dry powder form that the user sucks into the lungs—not nearly as effective as the aerosolized version. I know from experience. I used Serevent Inhaler for several years, and was asthma-free. When the aerosolized version went off the market, I was forced to use the dry-powder variant, which didn’t work anywhere near as well. I can no longer call myself asthma-free, thanks to efforts by Glaxo to “save the ozone layer.”


43 posted on 05/30/2008 7:00:08 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
They want “green” to elicit meaning whenever they use it in slogan form. We should use the counter slogan, “fascist,” anytime the enviro nuts use their cutesy word in our presence.
44 posted on 05/30/2008 7:02:58 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: tobyhill

When did this come before the people for a vote?


45 posted on 05/30/2008 7:03:19 PM PDT by Rudder ("There is only one chief. Obey him." [Rush Limbaugh, April 30, 2008])
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To: tobyhill

If greenhouse gases is the biggest problem facing mankind, why are we trying to fix the ozone hole which just serves to keep all those greenhouse gases in???


46 posted on 05/30/2008 7:10:17 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Doe Eyes

HA!


47 posted on 05/30/2008 7:18:18 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: tobyhill

screw the sick people, the mother earth needs more worshipping.


48 posted on 05/30/2008 7:23:11 PM PDT by omega4179 (b.hussein)
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To: AngieGal

Thanks for the information. I’ve saved it.


49 posted on 05/30/2008 7:33:10 PM PDT by kitkat (Over the Hill(ary))
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To: tobyhill

Aw crap, I need to get my albuterol inhalers now.

Save the asthma sufferers!


50 posted on 05/30/2008 7:39:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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