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Texas judge walks off bench; when FLDS children will return is unknown
The Deseret News ^ | 5/30/2008 | Ben Winslow and Nancy Perkins

Posted on 05/30/2008 6:40:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl

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To: Utah Girl

The judge can do as she pleases.

That was provided that the parents met conditions Walther would impose under the proviso of the Supreme Court opinion that the district court “may make and modify temporary order for the safety and welfare of the child.”

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/may/30/texas-polygamists-reach-tentative-deal/


61 posted on 05/30/2008 8:55:35 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Travis McGee

The HELL I am!

I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a dozen times, produce the evidence, indict them, try them IN A COURT OF LAW, convict them, and sentence as you will.

Only AFTER you follow the law as written in Texas. That does NOT include actions that happened in Utah, Arizona, Canada, Mexico, or any where else.

Then there is that sticky little thing about them requiring individual hearings which STILL has not happened two months after the fact.


62 posted on 05/30/2008 9:00:41 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Travis McGee
That’s what you are doing: supporting child rape.

Bingo.

But many idiots will declare they are defending the Constitution.

Idiots, the whole lot of them. They sure get outraged when the Jeffs picture is posted! Not at Jeffs mind you, they get mad at the poster and call him perverted.

I better leave this thread before I get banned. I'd love to tell the Molester Defender Cabal what I really think of them.

63 posted on 05/30/2008 9:01:13 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: JRochelle
Texas citizens are supporting CPS, more than they oppose it.

Not *this* Texan.

64 posted on 05/30/2008 9:04:47 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: JRochelle

Will you still feel the same way after this is allowed to stand and they come after you? Will I still be part of the Cabal defending your rights? Probably.


65 posted on 05/30/2008 9:07:31 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: JRochelle
You could ask any of those freaks if what Jeffs did, french-kissing a 12 year old, is wrong and they won’t say it was.

Yes. It was wrong. And he is in JAIL.

66 posted on 05/30/2008 9:08:24 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: JRochelle

“Oh and this isn’t a church, its a sex slave cult.”

Exactly. This type of behavior has no place in a modern culture.

I find it odd how some here want to defend a cult where 50 year old perverts rape 13 year old girls.

Unfortunately it sounds like the state of Texas was a bit sloppy in how they tried to stop these people.
That’s too bad, because they do need to be taken down.

Even in a system of limited government, there is a time and a place for government intervention.


67 posted on 05/30/2008 9:08:40 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Utah Girl

Someone needs to begin the IMPEACHMENT hearings.


68 posted on 05/30/2008 9:09:44 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: JRochelle

A child crawls out of Jonestown alive, the day before the koolaid test. Some fools here say,

“Throw that kid back inside! She belongs with her parents! They have done nothing illegal, proven in court!”


69 posted on 05/30/2008 9:10:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Or not: Waco on April 19, 1993.


70 posted on 05/30/2008 9:13:23 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Marie

Warren’s daddy had at least 30 “wives.” From photos, many appear to be no more than 13 or 14 at the time of their “weddings.”

Warren is reputed to also have a similar number of “wives.”

If the men are refusing DNA tests, how do we know which children are or are not the product of child rape by Warren Jeffs?

And remember, he is in prison for being an accomplice to rape, by forcing the marriage of a young man to a 14 year old girl against her will, followed by years of forcible rape until her escape.

This is the standard procedure of this child rape cult: Jeffs mandates which child marries which man, and mandates the child’s rape.

Open your eyes woman! You are on the side of child rapists!


71 posted on 05/30/2008 9:13:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Nothing has been proven in a court of law so far. America is a land of laws. I’m not defending the FLDS, but they are American citizens too and have rights.


72 posted on 05/30/2008 9:14:29 PM PDT by Utah Girl (John 15:12, Matthew 5:44)
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To: lady lawyer

I agree. She is not an impartial judge and should recuse herself from any further involvement with this case.


73 posted on 05/30/2008 9:15:24 PM PDT by antceecee (where do from here Ollie?.)
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To: kittymyrib

Who’s the Daddy applies to a large number of children in this country- shall we DNA them all?

You first- DNA your children, yourself and anyone that was in the neighborhood when you conceived- after all we all have the right to know- don’t we?

While we’re at it, we better take those children to protect them- who knows what you might be arrested for next week!!

Heck let’s just take all the children in this country and do all the DNA while we are at it- you just never know what terrible things we might find out. They all must be protected, no matter what. Something might happen to some of them some day you know!

Sounds like a plan to me, but we better get started, there’s a lot of children to gather up out there. We’ll have to take them all to be sure we protect the ones that might be harmed. Oh, don’t forget we also need to take all the pregnant females- and possibly pregnant females too.


74 posted on 05/30/2008 9:15:33 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Get over yourself.


75 posted on 05/30/2008 9:16:58 PM PDT by antceecee (where do from here Ollie?.)
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To: Travis McGee
Why are you defending this perverted cult of child rapists?

Here is what I wrote on another thread:

"I'm getting tired of the "child rape" thing myself.

"These people are painting images of elementary kids being forced into sex. The reality is that 5 teenagers had sex and got pregnant. These situations probably happened with adult men.

"This is statuary rape, not the violent rape the folks here want to see.

"At my daughter's school (population: about 1,000) there are pregnant teens all over the place. She personally knows three teenage girls having relationships with adult men in their 20's.

"The school isn't doing anything. It looks like the parents are OK with these relationships. Should somebody start screaming "CHILD RAPE!" and take every kid in the community from their families?

"The hyperbole is steaming."

I will add to that comment, my mother (one of 5 girls in her family) was a late bloomer. She married at 19. The youngest was married at 18. The rest were married right after their 16th birthday.

It's really difficult for me to see "child rape" when all of the girls in question were of similar ages to so many in my family.

And, NO. I'm not talking about Jeffs. He was way out of line and should stay in jail for the rest of his natural life for multiple counts of statutory rape. But CPS has provided NO evidence that any of the other girls were "married" that young.

76 posted on 05/30/2008 9:17:07 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: JRochelle

Anybody who supports sending these poor brainwashed from the cradle children back for their first experience of ritual child rape (the FLDS specialty) is supporting child rape. Period. How can you be banned for pointing out the obvious?


77 posted on 05/30/2008 9:18:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
"If the men are refusing DNA tests, how do we know which children are or are not the product of child rape by Warren Jeffs?"

That's a separate issue from taking children from their moms. You can do DNA tests while the moms are with their children, and the Texas Supreme Court ordered the kids to be returned to their mothers.

What the men do in prison is another subject.

78 posted on 05/30/2008 9:19:00 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Marie

Jeffs is in prison for being an accomplice to rape. That’s what he did, week in and week out, that is the basic “code” hard-wired into the FLDS.

In or out of prison, the leader of the FLDS arranges ritual child rape.

Anybody who wants to send these poor brainwashed from the crade children back to the FLDS is supporting child rape.

Period.


79 posted on 05/30/2008 9:20:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: JRochelle
Molester Defender Cabal

That's it, you just lost your argument and made any point you were trying to make meaningless.

80 posted on 05/30/2008 9:21:41 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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