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'World's Largest' Confederate Flag May Fly In Fla.
local6 ^ | 01-June-2008

Posted on 06/01/2008 10:47:58 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

TAMPA, Fla. -- A giant Confederate battle flag -- believed to be the world's largest -- may soon be flying near a Tampa highway intersection.

A Confederate heritage group called the Sons of Confederate Veterans plans to fly the flag that measures 30 feet tall and 50 feet wide.

The group said it expects to have its flag in place by 2009.

"I'm surprised that they would allow something like this to go on in Hillsborough County," county NAACP President Curtis Stokes told the St. Petersburg Times.

The group has building permits but still needs $30,000 to complete the project, which will be located on private property at the intersection of Interstates 4 and 75.

Organizers said the flag is not a racist statement but a piece of history.

They hope it encourages people to stop and see a monument to Confederate soldiers that they plan to build.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: confederate; confederateflag; dixie; flag; florida; scv
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1 posted on 06/01/2008 10:47:59 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

St. Obama and his followers ain’t gonna cotton to this idea..


2 posted on 06/01/2008 10:52:12 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: stainlessbanner
"I'm surprised that they would allow something like this to go on in Hillsborough County," county NAACP President Curtis Stokes

Am I am surpried that blacks vote for the Democratic Party which is the party of slavery, Jim Crow laws and the KKK!

3 posted on 06/01/2008 11:01:51 AM PDT by avacado
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To: stainlessbanner

It was a battle flag and the flag of a break-away number of States. It had nothing to do with slavery. If you want to assign slavery to a flag, then look to the various Islamic countries’ flags. Many of these countries still condone and even practice slavery within their borders.


4 posted on 06/01/2008 11:09:40 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: stainlessbanner
intersection of Interstates 4 and 75.

As a Tampa resident, for those not in the know, the intersection of I-4 and I-75 is right smack in the middle of the "urban" area of Tampa.

Imagine waking up everyday in your "hood" and seeing the main object of oppression, at least that's their perception, flying high and proud !!!

I think this project will be throughly objected too and probably deep sixed

Too bad, I'd like to see it everyday just to piss of the liberals

5 posted on 06/01/2008 11:09:47 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman

This is no different that the losing side of the Mexican American war pining for the day where they can retake ‘their land.’

All losers. Period.


6 posted on 06/01/2008 11:29:02 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Barrack Obama... more in common with Archie Bunker than Tiger Woods)
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To: rwilson99

I am American by birth, Southern by the grace of God.

Yankees gave us the kennedies, the kerries and now the hussein obama.


7 posted on 06/01/2008 11:34:20 AM PDT by Liberty 275
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To: stainlessbanner

Curtis Stokes is a poverty pimp. South St. Pete is full of those idiots.

I wonder if Joe Waller is still alive. If so, he’ll be opening his fat mouth soon, no doubt.


8 posted on 06/01/2008 11:36:02 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: Liberty 275

The South certainly had her problems, but she knew something about limited government.


9 posted on 06/01/2008 11:37:57 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: Popman

Being a Tampa guy, do you remember Dr. Conley on public access? I wish he was still around, it would be priceless to hear him blubbering about this!


10 posted on 06/01/2008 11:41:40 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: rwilson99; Dr. Zoo
The war is over, Dixie is free.

But some people are still fighting it.

World's Largest American Flag (confederate and union combo), being held up by Melanie Morgan and Dr. Zoo.


11 posted on 06/01/2008 12:00:15 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Popman
"...the intersection of I-4 and I-75 is right smack in the middle of the "urban" area of Tampa."

Check your map. I-4 intersects I-75 east of Tampa in the county. I-4 and I-275 intersect (previously called the "malfunction junction") in downtown Tampa.

12 posted on 06/01/2008 12:17:57 PM PDT by bruoz
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To: stainlessbanner

Good for the SCV SB.


13 posted on 06/01/2008 1:19:07 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: bruoz
Check your map. I-4 intersects I-75 east of Tampa in the county. I-4 and I-275 intersect (previously called the "malfunction junction") in downtown Tampa.

You are 100 % correct. I read it as I-275 for some reason.

14 posted on 06/01/2008 2:07:00 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman; bruoz

>>Check your map. I-4 intersects I-75 east of Tampa in the county. I-4 and I-275 intersect (previously called the “malfunction junction”) in downtown Tampa.

You are 100 % correct. I read it as I-275 for some reason.<<

I grew up in Tampa; missing by that much constitutes blindness (joking). Seriously, if it is at I-75 and I-4, there should be no concern. Last time I was in Tampa, traffic moved pretty fast and there wasn’t much but armadillos.


15 posted on 06/01/2008 2:48:22 PM PDT by NTHockey
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To: NTHockey
I grew up in Tampa; missing by that much constitutes blindness (joking).

I've been here for 17 years and I must be blind to miss it by that much :)

Don't know how long you have been gone, but they redid malfunction junction, it was an absolute nightmare.

For some unknown reason which is beyond any reasonable human thought process, they widened all the lanes merging into malfunction junction BEFORE they widened the intersection. So you had something like eight lanes of traffic merging into two lanes under construction

16 posted on 06/01/2008 3:01:43 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman

>>For some unknown reason which is beyond any reasonable human thought process, they widened all the lanes merging into malfunction junction BEFORE they widened the intersection. So you had something like eight lanes of traffic merging into two lanes under construction<<

And this surprises you? That is SOP for road work EVERYWHERE in the country. Bridges to nowhere, the Big Dig, roads paid by the curve, etc.

I know of only ONE project that was ever handled correctly - in West Virginia, of all places.

Seems the road between Parkersburg and Chemical Row collapsed and washed away one day. A new road had to built - and fast. The contractor worked on a performance bid - finish early and you get more money. Finish late and you get penalized.

He finished the road in six months, working 24/7, blasting through granite most of the way and spanning a quarter mile long, 200 foot deep chasm. That was his first performance contract, but not his last!


17 posted on 06/01/2008 3:10:09 PM PDT by NTHockey
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To: stainlessbanner
I wonder if the America Haters will fly it over an upside down American Flag?
18 posted on 06/01/2008 3:17:34 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: NTHockey
And this surprises you?

No, not at all. it's simple mind boggling the way they do it.

I'd really like to know if there is a reason beyond my understanding why they do major road projects that way

19 posted on 06/01/2008 3:59:18 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman

Folllow the money!


20 posted on 06/01/2008 4:12:29 PM PDT by NTHockey
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To: bruoz; Popman

Isn’t the entire I-4 corridor developed now? Seems it there were homes and businesses from Orlando to Lakeland to Tampa last I heard.


21 posted on 06/01/2008 8:42:52 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
'World's Largest' Confederate Flag May Fly In Fla.

Wow, will it really be bigger than all the other Confederate flags in other nations? That's some feat.

I'm surprised that they would allow something like this to go on in Hillsborough County," county NAACP President Curtis Stokes told the St. Petersburg Times.

You mean allowing a private group to raise a symbol on private property?

Mr. Stokes, have you ever heard of the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? Or do you just think it is a piece of garbage?

22 posted on 06/01/2008 10:35:45 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: stainlessbanner
No. Google a satellite image. There is still rural property along I-4 east of Tampa.
23 posted on 06/02/2008 4:07:46 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; snuffy smiff; slow5poh; EdReform; TheZMan; Texas Mulerider; Oorang; ...

Dixie Ping


24 posted on 06/02/2008 6:56:58 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Syncro
World's Largest American Flag (confederate and union combo)

What is a "World's Largest American Flag (confederate and union combo)" ?

Half U.S., half Confederate?

25 posted on 06/02/2008 7:53:10 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: stainlessbanner; All
as usual, the media got it DEAD WRONG!

the largest KNOWN CSA flag belongs to the University of Mississippi marching BAND & USED TO BE taken onto the football field by the Alpha Phi Omega service fraternity at all the home games!

the flag was about 30x50 YARDS in size & weighed over 600 POUNDS.

the world's largest TEXAS FLAG belongs to the University of TX at Austin's LONGHORN BAND. it is the same size/weight as the Ole Miss flag (fwiw, i was "a flag wrangler" in Austin in 1965, so i KNOW how big/heavy the flags are. on several occasions, i, at about 190 pounds, got "picked up" by the wind, while holding the lower corner & "bounced about".)

free dixie,sw

26 posted on 06/02/2008 9:16:07 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: lentulusgracchus
World's Largest American Flag (confederate and union combo)

What is a "World's Largest American Flag (confederate and union combo)" ?

Half U.S., half Confederate?

I'll answer you as if you really don't know.

This thread is about the Confederate Flag.

It was the flag of the south in the Civil war.

My term "combo" was meant figuratively to convey that the South and the North had combined to make one Nation (United) and thus the United States Flag was a combination of two formerly warring factions.

That would be the Union and the Confederacy "comboed"

So now there is no "Half U.S., half Confederate", just one United States of America.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

27 posted on 06/02/2008 9:24:29 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Popman; All
NOPE. it won't be "deep sixed".

the SCV is behind this project 100% AND we don't care a DAMN what the leftists/"useful idiots"/naaLcp/DIMocRATS think, feel or say.

the flagpole will be on PRIVATE PROPERTY & OWNED by an SCV Camp from FL.

free dixie,sw

28 posted on 06/02/2008 9:25:25 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stainlessbanner

It will join the one flying on I=75 near Lake City. Dixie ping!


29 posted on 06/02/2008 9:37:28 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: Parmy
These are the flags of a Nation of slavery: 


1775-1777
13 Stars Betsy Ross Flag
  • First official flag of the United States
  • Designed with 13 stars and 13 stripes to represent the 13 colonies (Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Georgia, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Virginia, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island)
  • Since Congress did not specify dimensions, proportions, shapes or star patterns, flags varied dramatically
  • Legend says that Betsy Ross designed and sewed the first American flag, but most historians disagree
  • The person who sewed the first flag is unknown, but the designer is thought to be Francis Hopkinson
  • The Second Continental Congress passed the Flag Resolution of 1777 on June 14, 1777 making the Betsy Ross flag official
  • This date is now celebrated annually as Flag Day
  • The only president to serve under this flag was George Washington
  • More Information on the Betsy Ross flag
  • Purchase a Betsy Ross flag
1777-1795
15 Stars Star Spangled Banner Flag
  • Designed with 15 stars and 15 stripes to represent the 13 original states plus Kentucky and Vermont
  • Made by Mary Pickersgill and her daughter
  • In 1812 the flag was flown over Fort McHenry, which inspired Francis Scott Key to write the Star Spangled Banner poem, which was put to music to become America’s national anthem
  • The Star Spangled Banner is on display at the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of American History
  • George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and James Monroe all served under this flag
  • More Information on the Star Spangled Banner
  • Purchase a Star Spangled Banner flag
1795-1818
20 Stars 20-Star American Flag
  • Also known as the Great Star Flag and the Flag of 1818
  • Congress passed the Flag Act of 1818, adding five new stars to the flag and reducing the number of stripes from 15 to 13
  • The five additional stars represented Tennessee, Ohio, Louisiana, Indiana, Mississippi
  • This flag was designed by Navy Captain Samuel Reid
  • James Monroe was the only president to serve under this flag
1818-1819
21 Stars 21-Star American Flag
  • One star was added with the admission of Illinois to the Union
  • James Monroe was the only president to service under this flag
1819-1820
23 Stars 23-Star American Flag
  • Two stars were added to the flag for the admission of Alabama and Maine
  • When Alabama was admitted in 1819, the free and slave states were balanced, but with the addition of Maine, the Union held a majority of free states
  • James Monroe was the only president to serve under this flag
1820-1822
24 Stars 24-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Missouri
  • The name "Old Glory" spawned from a 24-star flag flown by shipmaster Captain William Driver
  • The flag, which was given to him by his mother and friends, became famous by the time of the Civil War
  • Driver, who lived in Tennessee, was afraid the flag would be seized by Confederate forces, so he hid the flag between layers of his comforter
  • In 1860 ten more stars were added to the flag for the admission of new states
  • Today Old Glory is one of America's greatest treasures
  • James Monroe, John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson served under the 24-star flag
1822-1836
25 Stars 25-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Arkansas
  • Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren served under this flag
1836-1837
26 Stars 26-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Michigan
  • Sailing under a 26-star American flag, U.S. Navy Lieutenant Charles Wilkes led the first American expedition to explore Antarctica
  • Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler and James Polk served under this flag
1837-1845
27 Stars 27-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Florida
  • James Polk was the only president to serve under this flag
1845-1846
28 Stars 28-Star American Flag
  • The 28th star was added to the flag when the United States annexed Texas; an action that would spawn the Mexican-American War
  • This was the first war in which American troops carried the flag into battle
  • The United States defeated Mexico and gained land that would become New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, California and most of western Colorado
  • James Polk was the only president to serve under this flag
1846-1847
29 Stars 29-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Iowa
  • James Polk was the only president to serve under this flag
1847-1848
30 Stars 30-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Wisconsin
  • James Polk, Zachary Taylor and Millard Fillmore served under this flag
1848-1851
31 Stars 31-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of California
  • Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan served under this flag
1851-1858
32 Stars 32-Star American Flag
  • One star was added to the flag for the admission of Minnesota
  • James Buchanan was the only president to serve under this flag

 

30 posted on 06/02/2008 10:03:00 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Rebelbase

Your point?


31 posted on 06/02/2008 11:29:06 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy
"It was a battle flag and the flag of a break-away number of States. It had nothing to do with slavery. If you want to assign slavery to a flag, then look to the various" Islamic countries’ pre-1861 American flags.
32 posted on 06/02/2008 11:42:00 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Rebelbase

You still haven’t made your point. Please expound with words.


33 posted on 06/02/2008 12:18:04 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy

You partially explained it in your own post. It’s nonsense for the offended class to focus their whine on a particular 4-year period of American History while ignoring the prior 80.


34 posted on 06/02/2008 12:21:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Rebelbase
It had nothing to do with slavery.

Of course it didn't.

35 posted on 06/02/2008 12:23:49 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Rebelbase

I am just a ‘poor country boy of eastern european extraction’, you are going to have to more adroit if you want me to understand what you are trying to say.


36 posted on 06/02/2008 12:25:28 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: stand watie

Say SW where’s the biggest Confederate flag in South Carolina located at?


37 posted on 06/02/2008 12:33:08 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: Parmy

I’ll pass.


38 posted on 06/02/2008 12:44:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Rebelbase

Thank You.


39 posted on 06/02/2008 1:02:59 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: StoneWall Brigade
sorry, but i cannot tell you that answer.

if i had to GUESS (and a GUESS is what it would be!) i'd guess at THE CITADEL.

free dixie,sw

40 posted on 06/02/2008 2:01:08 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Thanks anyways SW.


41 posted on 06/02/2008 5:06:04 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: StoneWall Brigade; stand watie

My guess would be Maurice’s Barbecue restaurant. But I have no idea as to the correct answer.


42 posted on 06/02/2008 5:15:07 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: stainlessbanner
"I'm surprised that they would allow something like this to go on in Hillsborough County," county NAACP President Curtis Stokes told the St. Petersburg Times.

Flag aside, who are "they?"
43 posted on 06/02/2008 5:19:32 PM PDT by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: Syncro
I'll answer you as if you really don't know.....Hope that clears up any confusion.

Bag the sarcasm, knucklehead.

A lack of perspicuousness on your part does not create an obligation on my part to guess what the heck you mean.

44 posted on 06/03/2008 4:47:53 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: stainlessbanner

I sent them $30,000 in confederate Money.


45 posted on 06/03/2008 4:56:55 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: stand watie; StoneWall Brigade
Say SW where’s the biggest Confederate flag in South Carolina located at?

There is a large one in the chapel at the Citidel but the largest one in SC according to a Citadel cadet (and war historian) is probably the one flying over a barbecue restaurant in Columbia right off of I 26 in Casey.

46 posted on 06/03/2008 6:43:39 AM PDT by groanup (Most of my cliche's aren't original.)
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To: usmcobra

I’m sure they thank you very much, as Confederate money is now worth much more than it;s face value to collectors. A $5.00 confederate bill can sell for as much as $100.00 and if it is a rare bill for thousands.
http://www.csaquotes.com/


47 posted on 06/03/2008 6:47:26 AM PDT by smug (smug for President; Your only real hope)
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To: smug
i've always thought it RICH that all those folks who said "Save your Confederate money boys----" turned out to be CORRECT.

a friend of mine recently paid over 600x the face value of some AR "fractional currency", which was printed late in 1864 with BLACKBERRY JUICE for ink.

free dixie,sw

48 posted on 06/03/2008 2:44:49 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: groanup
you could be RIGHT.

free dixie,sw

49 posted on 06/03/2008 2:45:18 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: smug

I doubt it, I got mine from a nickel gum ball machines.


50 posted on 06/03/2008 6:46:19 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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