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10-yr-old suspended for having shell casing (public schools strike again)
Red State ^ | June 1. 2008

Posted on 06/01/2008 1:47:56 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

A Fourth-grader at Toy Town Elementary School in Winchendon, MA was suspended for five days for showing his friends an empty shell casing to some friends at lunch. According to the NRA-ILA (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3975), Bradley Geslak had been given the casing — from a blank fired during Memorial Day — by a US veteren. He was given two, one of which he gave to his grandfather, also a veteren.

He was showing his souvenier off to some friends during lunch when a teacher confiscated the casing and called the boy’s mother to take him home. He’s also been told he won’t be getting the very dangerous shell casing back.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; education; govwatch; homeschoolingisgood; legalizedtheft; publicschool; publicschools; publicskoolz; stealing; zerotolerance
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1 posted on 06/01/2008 1:47:57 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime; Aquinasfan; traviskicks; ALOHA RONNIE; SandRat; ...

Another day, another public school scandal...


2 posted on 06/01/2008 1:50:21 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Veteran.” “Souvenir.” Spell-check can be our friend.

Dumb school.


3 posted on 06/01/2008 1:51:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I blossom on the grave of God who died for me." ~ Hans Urs von Balthasar)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Good grief.

Can the student send the teacher home for five days, for bringing dangerous ideology into the classroom?

4 posted on 06/01/2008 1:53:38 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Oh yeah...lady? We might have to go to court but you would return his casing.


5 posted on 06/01/2008 1:54:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Clintonfatigued

I remember when I was a little boy somebody came back from the war and gave me an artillery shell casing of some sort. I don’t have it now, but as I recall, it must have been at least several inches in diameter and quite long—kind of like a tall ashtray.

Things have really gone downhill since then in this culture of ours. These morons wouldn’t know the difference between a cool souvenir and something dangerous if it bit them on the nose.

I wonder what they would have made of my pineapple grenade, complete with everything but the explosives inside?


6 posted on 06/01/2008 1:54:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Clintonfatigued
A spent shell casing is a no-no.

But a Trojan is no problem.

7 posted on 06/01/2008 1:55:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Lemme get this straight...

4th grader. Small piece of brass (presumably) which was a blank round to begin with. Suspended.

Okay.

Next, MA State Police will go arrest the veteran and the grandpa.

I must be dreamin'.

8 posted on 06/01/2008 1:55:25 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Kid, get your Gramps, and head for the Principal’s office. Give ‘em Hell, Grandpa!


9 posted on 06/01/2008 1:55:41 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Clintonfatigued

This type of thing makes me shudder in thinking about what our country is coming to.


10 posted on 06/01/2008 1:55:42 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Clintonfatigued

The clear message is stay out of Massachuttes. Do not venture there. Beware!!


11 posted on 06/01/2008 1:56:57 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sadly it’s just not public schools anymore...


12 posted on 06/01/2008 1:57:57 PM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn’t a shell casing nothing more than a cylindrical piece of metal? The scissors the boy uses in art class are more dangerous!!


13 posted on 06/01/2008 2:02:32 PM PDT by flib
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To: Clintonfatigued
Empty shells are not dangerous...heck...full shells aren't really dangerous....unless loaded. And that's where training young children gun safety fixes that problem. Just think, Teddy Roosevelt had youth gun shoots in public schools. Now a shell is too scary for the totally oblivious educators.

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14 posted on 06/01/2008 2:08:54 PM PDT by swampdweller
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To: Clintonfatigued; Joe Brower
A spent shell casing????
Good Grief!
Unbelievable (well, almost)
15 posted on 06/01/2008 2:09:44 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: swampdweller

When I was a kid we used empty shells for whistles. Some made pretty good ones- or at least we thought so.


16 posted on 06/01/2008 2:10:34 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is incredibly wrong. I would sue to get that shell back if I had to, and take my child out of that ignorant school.


17 posted on 06/01/2008 2:11:53 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Tammy8

Right on, Tammy8! My dad had a whole draw of hundreds of empty 30-30 shells when I was a kid. I whistled with them and played with them all day. Good memories...or so I thought....maybe I am traumatized by the violent shell to this very day. Anyhow, when I grew up, I reloaded those shells for my own gun.


18 posted on 06/01/2008 2:13:32 PM PDT by swampdweller
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To: Clintonfatigued

Recruit: “No brass or ammo, Maam.”


19 posted on 06/01/2008 2:13:36 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot
Nope! You are caught in a waking nightmare--the public education system.

vaudine

20 posted on 06/01/2008 2:14:52 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: Clintonfatigued
When will a group of common sense, patriotic, civic minded citizens band together and start dragging these Zerotolerance, luddite, drooling liberals out of the classroom and tar and feather them, and run them out of town on a rail?

The public school education system is, in general, dumbing down America! There may be exceptions, but damn few!

21 posted on 06/01/2008 2:24:21 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: Clintonfatigued

When I was in high school I had gave a .38 casing to a friend who needed to cap a leaking a vacuum line on his car.. just the everyday things we did not so long ago would have us in jail today. There was a army/navy store only a block away where you could buy practice grenads and machetes for a few dollars.


22 posted on 06/01/2008 2:24:39 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Clintonfatigued
...showing his friends an empty shell casing....(snip) ....He’s also been told he won’t be getting the very dangerous shell casing back.

A piece of brass is very dangerous???

23 posted on 06/01/2008 2:25:54 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Clintonfatigued
I grew up in Worcester County, Mass in a small town near this boy's town. Memorial Day was and still is a very popular holiday in this area. Most towns have the traditional parade, honor guards, and ceremonies which genuinely honor the town's fallen heroes. Besides the general excitements of Memorial Day, many boys clamored for these shell casings as they were expelled by the firing squads. The men on the squads happily obliged the desires of all boys by making sure that as many boys as possible got at least one. The next day at school saw most boys showing off their treasures for one and all to see. Parents, principals, and teachers were all totally aware of what was going on and had no problem whatever with any of it. How sad that a few bad apples in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts can turn a wonderful tradition and celebration into an example of Naziism within such a short period of time.

I don't live in Mass any more and have not for a long time. This is the state that produced strong and brave minutemen and was really the beginning of liberty and independence for the entire country. This is a state which sent so many strong and brave men to preserve the union and to abolish slavery. This is a state which sent so many strong and brave men to Europe and the Pacific to preserve our way of life during the World Wars against Naziism, Fascism, and Imperialism, and during the Cold War against Communism and Totalitarianism. This situation which happened to this young boy tells me that even though we won all the battles, we lost the war. The Nazis, the fascists, the international imperialists, the communists, and the totalitarians are the winners. I hope the parents, and freedom lovers in Massachusetts fight back. It would be wonderful to see Massachusetts become great again.

24 posted on 06/01/2008 2:36:56 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Clintonfatigued
The United States of Wussies and paranoids.

Good grief.

Heck, kids used to take guns to school and go hunting after school and nobody got their panties in a twist.

As a (very bad) Boy Scout, we used to go camping and throw handfuls of .22 cartridges into the campfire and then run and jump behind a mound or into a ditch.

Under the current rules, me and my rowdy, no good friends would all be suspended or in jail for our behavior.

Now, I'm a responsible gun owner and my dad taught me gun safety with my first single shot .20 ga. shotgun. Well except for a few stupid boyhood lapses.

People sure are sensitive these days.

25 posted on 06/01/2008 2:38:04 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: Reagan Man
A spent shell casing is a no-no. But a Trojan is no problem.

I found a 'spent' Trojan on my lawn the other day. Thank God I am moving.

26 posted on 06/01/2008 2:56:06 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Clintonfatigued

From the various spelling errors, it is apparent that the author is a product of our public education system. Boy, I really hate reading articles written in such a shoddy illiterate manner.

Teachers are apparently the shock troops on the front line of destroying our country with socialism and an ethic of “good enough”.


27 posted on 06/01/2008 2:58:10 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Clintonfatigued
shell casing...

we used to hunt for them after the Memorial Day assembly, which included a 21-gun salute.

Guess they don't do that anymore, hunh?

28 posted on 06/01/2008 3:00:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Obama's a front man. Who's behind him?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Oh, come on guys! Don’t you get it? If you don’t let children see a shell casing, then there is no such thing as a gun. This is the same thing ostriches do and it works for them, right?


29 posted on 06/01/2008 3:12:42 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
WTF!!!!

I use to give ‘em to my kids to play with all the time....they took them to school too.

This town needs an enema

30 posted on 06/01/2008 3:17:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Sam Clements

Same here. On my street, there was always a parade on Memorial day, and the firing squad always seemed to fire their slaute in front of my house. Getting those shell casings were a treat.
Now that even saying the word “gun” will get you in trouble, it should come as no surprise that this will happen. The boy should have wrapped a condom on it.


31 posted on 06/01/2008 3:26:33 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Obama, I dont want to be cold and hungry. I am a AMERICAN.)
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To: Tax-chick

Spell check police again......who cares


32 posted on 06/01/2008 3:28:27 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Clintonfatigued

Ya forgot this part.....
To email Superintendent Brooke Clenchy: bclenchy@winchendonk12.org
To leave a voicemail: 978-297-0031


33 posted on 06/01/2008 3:38:45 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Tammy8
When I was a kid we used empty shells for whistles

I hadn't remembered that until you said it, but we did the same thing! 30-30 shells IIRC. I wonder what kind of trouble a kid would get into if he brought a rabbit's foot to show and tell. A PETA member teacher would have a coronary. What have things come to these days?

I feel bad for this kid who was obviously proud of his souvenir.

34 posted on 06/01/2008 3:47:09 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: t1b8zs

Separates us from the savages.


35 posted on 06/01/2008 3:47:19 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I blossom on the grave of God who died for me." ~ Hans Urs von Balthasar)
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To: Tax-chick

OH OK I hope you put some of that engerney into emailing the prinsaple


36 posted on 06/01/2008 3:52:01 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Clintonfatigued

The government schools are building a powerful gun mystique and I think it all promotes unsupervised youthful craving for guns for the Power that they obviously have. Another reason (piled on top of many more than sufficient) to get your kids out of government schools.


37 posted on 06/01/2008 3:53:07 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: t1b8zs

There’s no percentage in agitating government school goons. Take the kids home and teach them to read and shoot, already.


38 posted on 06/01/2008 3:53:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I blossom on the grave of God who died for me." ~ Hans Urs von Balthasar)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Hey Gramps, get your grandkids the hell out of government school!


39 posted on 06/01/2008 3:56:04 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Clintonfatigued

http://www.goal.org/news/SouvenirSuspension.htm


40 posted on 06/01/2008 3:56:46 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Clintonfatigued

We need the aw jeez pic again


41 posted on 06/01/2008 3:57:51 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Sam Clements
It would be wonderful to see Massachusetts become great again.

Loved your memories. They were much the same as those I have from growing up in small town Ohio. I share your dream for Massachusetts.

42 posted on 06/01/2008 4:04:28 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Clintonfatigued
I'd guess the teacher was ignorant about firearms and thought that casing was a “bullet” and the principal was a leftie who hates veterans.
43 posted on 06/01/2008 4:16:22 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Minor aside regarding this thread. When I was screening luggage a young fellow came through. I saw the shell casing immediately.

Me: Cool what is it 30mm?
Passenger: Close 25mm

Me: where did yout get it.
Passenger: Served on the CG Boutwell in the Gulf its a souvenir from there.

Me: Ok just a minute I have to talk to a Supv. ( I pulled the casing (regs required it) and found a Supv.I made sure the Supv in question was the ex-SF supv we had on duty)

Supv: Is it a live round or does it have an active primer?
Me: Of course not its an expended 25mm casing he is carrying as a souvenir from the Gulf.

Supv: return it to him its just a brass tube
Me: Ok no problem.

Me: Here is your “souvenir” back. Have a nice trip and sorry for the delay
Passenger: Thanks I was worried it may have been an issue.

Me: depends on who you talk to but not with me or the supervisor.

This is just to illustrate the TSA was not always populated with anal retentive types like the public schools seem to be.

44 posted on 06/01/2008 4:45:23 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

No sympathy...anyone who really cares for their kids would not have them in a public school.


45 posted on 06/01/2008 4:54:51 PM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sick


46 posted on 06/01/2008 4:55:12 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: swampdweller

Hell - our town high school still had a rifle team in the 70s’


47 posted on 06/01/2008 4:56:48 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
48 posted on 06/01/2008 5:18:18 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Clintonfatigued

ping


49 posted on 06/01/2008 5:19:02 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: spanalot

We took hunter safety in Junior High gym class .


50 posted on 06/01/2008 5:59:27 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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