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Major Fire Burns on Universal Studios Backlot ( Update )
Los Angeles Times ^ | 3:22 PM PDT, June 1, 2008 | Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Bettina Boxall and Ari Bloomekatz, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

Posted on 06/01/2008 4:05:30 PM PDT by kellynla

Low water pressure hampered efforts today to fight a fire that raged through the Universal Studios backlot in Universal City, destroying a soundstage, the theme park's King Kong attraction, a video vault and sets such as the Courthouse Square seen in "Back to the Future" and the New York street scape from "Bruce Almighty."

As the equivalent of two city blocks burned -- firefighters were still dousing hot spots 10 hours after the blaze began in predawn darkness -- a mushroom-like cloud of smoke drifted over surrounding neighborhoods, raising some health concerns.

A large explosion near the video storage building about 2:30 p.m. left a firefighter and sheriff's deputy with minor injuries, officials said. Four other firefighters suffered minor injuries earlier.

The theme park will not reopen today.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, whose district includes Universal City, said fire officials told him that unusually low water pressure had made the fight more difficult.

"They said the water was coming out of the hoses anemically," he said. "The water pressure is not what it should have been. It's enough of a wake-up call that we need to take another look."

County Fire Chief P. Michael Freeman said the park had installed a large-scale sprinkler system after a 1990 blaze, but it didn't seem to work adequately today. Firefighters pulled water from ponds and lakes on the backlot. They also brought in a 6,000-gallon water tender.

"It appears the fire this morning overwhelmed fire protection features," Freeman said. "We're going to readily and quickly reevaluate that and see if that had any impact on the water pressure."

Los Angeles City Councilman Tom LaBonge said he also heard about the water-pressure problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: fire; hollywood; losangeles; universal; universalstudios

1 posted on 06/01/2008 4:05:30 PM PDT by kellynla
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2 posted on 06/01/2008 4:07:15 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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3 posted on 06/01/2008 4:08:30 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Don’t worry. It’s just a make-believe fire.


4 posted on 06/01/2008 4:11:00 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: kellynla

Funny thing is, that fire dumped more crap into the sky (including CO2) than I bet every car within 100 miles of there does over the course of a year. No one will even wimper about the environMENTAL costs of such a blaze.


5 posted on 06/01/2008 4:11:33 PM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: kellynla
I posted this on servearl threads about 3:40 p.m.

It is now about 3:40 p.m. at Universal Studios. Currently white clouds of smoke are contining to rise above the Universal Studio lot.

At times the white smoke remains thick and near the ground, and at other times it rises in a large white cloud. This is visible from five to seven miles away.

As I write this, another white cloud of smoke has risen one hundred to one hundred and fifty feet in the air.

As of 2:15 p.m., there was still dark smoke rising from the studio lot.

I thought some of you might find this intesting.

It is now about 4:15 p.m. and white smoke still continues to rise from the Universal back lot.
6 posted on 06/01/2008 4:13:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: DoughtyOne
Hey, you live in that area too. I've run across a couple of Freepers today that live in close proximity to the studio.

The reason I ask is that that area is my old stomping grounds. I lived on Aqua Vista, close to Vineland for a few years.

7 posted on 06/01/2008 4:21:18 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Vineland is a rather long street and I’m not sure where Aqua Vista crosses, but I know the whole street fairly well having spent the last 40 years in the area. I’ve noticed a number of folks mentioning they were close by also. Thanks for the comments.


8 posted on 06/01/2008 4:28:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: kellynla

Whoops. There goes all California’s carbon credits. Isn’t it interesting how ecological disasters hit those states that stand for staying green?


9 posted on 06/01/2008 4:32:01 PM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Vineland is the first street south of the 101. Basically it runs right into The Beverley Gardens Hotel
10 posted on 06/01/2008 4:32:38 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

ooops, I meant Aqua Vista not Vineland.

Damn, I havn’t even had a beer today.


11 posted on 06/01/2008 4:41:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

View Map

I lived on Barham (long ago) and overlooked Universal's back lot.

12 posted on 06/01/2008 4:50:37 PM PDT by ru4liberty
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To: kellynla
Will Universal get awarded an Oscar for special effects?

Leni

13 posted on 06/01/2008 5:04:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Foot Soldier in FR's Light Verse Brigade)
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To: ru4liberty

I love that area. I used to ride my motorcycle up in the hills around there right around Lake Hollywood (The one that was in the movie Earthquake) well the dam anyway

Surprisingly, many people who live in the valley or on the edges do not even know it exists.


14 posted on 06/01/2008 5:04:23 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: MinuteGal

“Will Universal get awarded an Oscar for special effects?”

Firefighters are out there risking their lives as we speak...

I don’t see anything funny about this


15 posted on 06/01/2008 5:06:46 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla; 353FMG; taxesareforever; Las Vegas Ron
I'll bet you're a big hoot in your compound.

Leni

16 posted on 06/01/2008 5:11:31 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Foot Soldier in FR's Light Verse Brigade)
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To: ru4liberty

We’re definitely having ‘small world’ day today. I lived just down the hill from you near Pass and Riverside.


17 posted on 06/01/2008 5:15:16 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
Do you live at Bob's Big Boy?


I wish I did.
18 posted on 06/01/2008 6:16:51 PM PDT by hoppity
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To: kellynla

Saw the headline and thought Frank was making a comeback.

19 posted on 06/01/2008 6:26:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: TheZMan

OTOH NBC/Universal will be incrementally less able to spew its “progressive” crap into the nation’s media stream for awhile. Now THAT’s what I call an “offset”!


20 posted on 06/01/2008 6:35:20 PM PDT by libsmacker75
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To: TheZMan
Funny thing is, that fire dumped more crap into the sky (including CO2) than I bet every car within 100 miles of there does over the course of a year.

Be quantitive. How many cars are running, in a time average, within 100 miles of that spot? ( Say 1,000,000 ) How much gasoline per car is being burned per hour? ( Say 1 ) How much total gasoline is burned over the course of 8760 hours ? 8,760,000,000 gallons, and I think this is a low-ball. That's about 33 billion cubic decimeters, or cube 320 meters on side, 1000 feet by 1000 feet by 1000 feet. You're saying the Universal Studio fire released more CO2 than burning this much gasoline.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

21 posted on 06/01/2008 7:38:50 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
Be quantitive.

I have a hard enough time telling people that scientific study has shown that vehicles and industry put more than 100 times more CO2 in the air each year than volcanoes.

22 posted on 06/01/2008 8:03:24 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: hoppity

I’ve moved, but you could see that sign and the old car-hop lanes from my old dining room window. I ate there more than a few times, but spent most of my ‘dining out’ time across the street at Papoo’s. Among other things, they do great breakfasts.


23 posted on 06/01/2008 8:06:27 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: milford421

Ping.


24 posted on 06/01/2008 8:18:21 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: dr_lew
Correct me if I'm wrong.

You figure that cars average running 100% of the time. Seems a bit high to me...

25 posted on 06/01/2008 8:32:44 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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To: kellynla; lainie

It looks like more was damaged or destroyed in today’s Universal Studios fire than anyone previously thought. I’ve learned that Universal Music, which is a completely separate company and owned by Vivendi (which owns 20% of NBC Universal), rents space in the huge video vault housed on the studio lot. But one source tells me that, as a consequence, inside the video vault that was billowing thick black smoke were 1000’s of original Decca, MCA, ABC recording masters from the last century including a wide range of music from Bing Crosby and the Andrew Sisters to Judy Garland and The Carpenters. “This is a tremendous loss in music history. A very sad day indeed. It’s too bad they saved the videos that they have backups on instead of the master recordings in which they do not, although they may not have had a choice since the fire had already engulfed much of the music side of the vault,” a source just told me. Universal Studios can’t confirm what has been damaged or destroyed music-wise at this point because it doesn’t yet know what exactly was housed in the storage rented to Universal Music.


26 posted on 06/01/2008 8:42:18 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Onelifetogive

No, I figured that 1,000,000 was the time average for the number of cars running at any given time. Just a guess, anyway. It seems to jive with the U.S. annual gasoline consumption, as I posted.

... I’m having a hard time trying to find this type of information. By searching on [ automobile census ] I found a NYT archive article saying there were 750,000 cars in the whole country ... it was from 1913 !


27 posted on 06/01/2008 9:17:55 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
It seems to jive with the U.S. annual gasoline consumption, as I posted.

Gee I thought I posted it, I don't see it. Anyway, I think my estimate is pretty good, as it comes to about 1/16 the US annual consumption of gasoline.

28 posted on 06/01/2008 9:21:17 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: MinuteGal

I do hoot in my compound. At least in my compound I get to get out and breathe sane air.


29 posted on 06/01/2008 11:59:36 PM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: kellynla

It’s great that no one was killed in this. From a movie-buff perspective, and as someone who has taken the Universal Hollywood backstage tour several times, I am saddened by the loss of these historical sets, and the archive vault. The courthouse set was seen most famously in “Back to the Future”, but it has been used in many Universal films, from “Psycho” to
“Slap Shot”.


30 posted on 06/02/2008 12:18:37 AM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: dr_lew
Hmm.

that fire dumped more crap into the sky (including CO2) than I bet
31 posted on 06/02/2008 6:17:36 AM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: BurbankKarl

That’s very sad. I hope whoever that quote is from isn’t blaming the FF for not deciding what was worth saving and what wasn’t...


32 posted on 06/02/2008 8:56:16 AM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: lainie

Oh, there were all kinds of selfish quotes floating around yesterday....including all those idiots that were complaining about not getting into UniStudios after 2pm.

Did you get to see the footage of that secondary explosions that injured the FF and deputy? Pieces landed off the lot....it was pretty substantial.


33 posted on 06/02/2008 9:30:53 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: lainie

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=6673541&version=1&locale=EN-US report showing that secondary explosion 8 hours after fire broke out...and prompted the decision not to open the park


34 posted on 06/02/2008 9:36:15 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: taxesareforever

35 posted on 06/02/2008 10:06:31 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: BurbankKarl; All

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ieKlEB60J43hDZ39AB9VmsPZ72sgD912HMK00

A massive blaze that destroyed part of the back lot at Universal Studios was accidentally ignited by workers using a blowtorch on the roof of a movie set building facade, fire officials said.

Workers had been using the blowtorch early Sunday to heat asphalt shingles to apply to the roof, Los Angeles County Fire Chief Michael Freeman said Monday. They finished around 3 a.m. and followed policy of standing watch for one hour, then left for a break, he said.

Guess those asphalt shingles stay hot longer than one hour.


36 posted on 06/03/2008 12:51:58 PM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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