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Pfleger: 'Hillary and McCain would wish they had a preacher with the integrity of Jeremiah Wright.'
CampaignSpot ^ | 06/01/2008 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 06/01/2008 7:01:19 PM PDT by JRochelle

I don't know how many of Joel Osteen's flock were thinking of voting for Barack Obama, but I'd like to make sure every last one of them hears this comment from Fr. Michael Pfleger, longtime friend of Obama and one of the Democratic candidate's spiritual mentors:

"Hillary and McCain would wish they had a preacher with the integrity of Jeremiah Wright. … They got some old weak preacher…some old Joel Osteen cotton candy preacher."

Let's just come out and say it — Pfleger is an A-1 jerk [perhaps not the first word that came to mind], and Obama only started objecting to his comments once it started hurting his political ambitions.

The question is, do Osteen's two million weekly viewers and three million book buyers take it personally?


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KEYWORDS: 2008; boundforhell; christianvote; dncfalseprophets; evil; falseprophets; houston; obama; osteen; pfleger; racist; wright
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1 posted on 06/01/2008 7:01:20 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: JRochelle

The best description I’ve heard of Pfleger’s bizarre preaching style is “channelling Dick Shawn in The Producers.”


2 posted on 06/01/2008 7:04:53 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: JRochelle

Obama’s preachers are all racists and if they want a race riot, they just might get it. All they want is their peoples money and they are getting it.


3 posted on 06/01/2008 7:05:57 PM PDT by RC2
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To: JRochelle

The local radio morning shows continue to compare Pfleger to a young Sam Kinnison....

It would be a lot funnier if..........


4 posted on 06/01/2008 7:06:45 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: JRochelle

At least those attending JO sermons don’t hear a “priest” like Pfleger delivering an over-the-top mockery of a black preacher. Pgleger’s delivery is so ridiculous - it is the gold-standard of white guy goes black preacher - it is so forced, it is comically so. The saddest part is those in attendance don’t seem to realize the delivery is an act - a bad one.


5 posted on 06/01/2008 7:09:05 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: JRochelle

But did he say it in Christian love?


6 posted on 06/01/2008 7:10:33 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: JRochelle; All
Dear Michael Pfleger:

Rest Assured

7 posted on 06/01/2008 7:12:20 PM PDT by musicman
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To: denydenydeny; aculeus; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; Ezekiel; Larry Lucido; Billthedrill; ...
The best description I’ve heard of Pfleger’s bizarre preaching style is “channelling Dick Shawn in The Producers.”

“You don’t think about the little flowers. Oh no, all you think about is guns.”

8 posted on 06/01/2008 7:14:04 PM PDT by dighton
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To: JRochelle
They got some old weak preacher…some old Joel Osteen cotton candy preacher."

Now they're mocking Joel Osteen, the most loving, gentle preacher on TV - (with an audience many times theirs, I might add), that's just disgusting.

9 posted on 06/01/2008 7:15:18 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: JRochelle
I think we're seeing the set-up for the religious vote ... not the Christian vote, but the religious.

And America is going to see how Christian she is ... or isn't.

The tactic is not to actually DO anything ... just float a balloon and see where the wind drifts it.

I hate the Socialists.

10 posted on 06/01/2008 7:17:07 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: JRochelle
We need him to start trashing James Dobson. The good doctor's unwillingness to support McCain is one reason Colorado is a tossup state right now.

I'm not a big McCain fan, but I personally can't just sit idly by and watch people like Obama, Pfleger and Wright try to set the moral compass for our country for the next four years.

11 posted on 06/01/2008 7:22:26 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: JRochelle

[cue “Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)” by the Offspring]


12 posted on 06/01/2008 7:23:12 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: JRochelle

Funny how being a racist POS pr#ck constitutes “integrity.”


13 posted on 06/01/2008 7:25:55 PM PDT by Levante
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To: JRochelle

They don’t want Obama to win. It would put them out of business.


14 posted on 06/01/2008 7:34:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“The local radio morning shows continue to compare Pfleger to a young Sam Kinnison....”

WHAAAAAT??? They shouldn’t disrespect the dead like that. Sam was a jewel. This one is shameful.


15 posted on 06/01/2008 7:34:31 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: RichInOC

Exactamundo!


16 posted on 06/01/2008 7:34:54 PM PDT by kickonly88
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To: llandres

Just the speech patterns....That’s all.


17 posted on 06/01/2008 7:37:22 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“The saddest part is those in attendance don’t seem to realize the delivery is an act - a bad one.”

As usual, they’re too over-wrought to notice. See, I think the scariest thing about this latest video is the same as all previous ones - the maniacal yelling, jumping up and down, arm/fist waving and standing o’s of the crowd in this “church”.


18 posted on 06/01/2008 7:37:50 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: JRochelle
Don't any of these "preachers" (Wright, Pfleger, etc...) preach Christ??
Its Sunday for goodness sake. And these people are in what is supposed to be a Church...All I hear from these clowns are narcissistic ravings, and pity parties... And their followers seem to like it too...
The Bible may have been written years ago -- but it truly is timeless.

Jeremiah 5:30-31
A wonderful* and horrible thing is committed in the land; The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

[*wonderful = incomprehensible ... i.e., not the good kind of 'wonderful']

19 posted on 06/01/2008 7:37:54 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Just the speech patterns....That’s all.

Well, I agree - it really WAS a caricature.


20 posted on 06/01/2008 7:41:13 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: El Cid

“Don’t any of these “preachers” (Wright, Pfleger, etc...) preach Christ??”

Although it’s only happened maybe twice ever, these particular churches need to have their 501C-3 tax-exempt status jerked for politicking from the pulpit (which they do repeatedly).


21 posted on 06/01/2008 7:44:04 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: JRochelle

I think one important item has been overlooked.
After over 45 years of affrimative action, the War On Povedrty, Welfare, extra credits to get into college for blacks in America, we have had a glimpse into just exactly what the yuppie black in this country really thinks:
We have seen what they eagerly go sit and listen to on Sunday for about 2 hours. They have a more than decent education, clothes, food, cars, jobs that gave them a bump up and over some more qualified candidates, and they sit inside their special “church” on Sunday and lambast the white man whose taxes paid for their welfare and education.
All in all, I think it is disgusting, and I want more attention put upon what has been revealed to all of us. We need to pay attention.


22 posted on 06/01/2008 7:47:27 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: JRochelle
I think the issue of Senator Obama's relationship with racist preachers is THE issue that could eventually sink his campaign if the Senator does not spend the time to properly distance himself from these preachers. You'd think that after Reverend Jeremiah Wright's speech in front of the NAACP the Senator would cut himself off from the Reverend.
23 posted on 06/01/2008 7:48:57 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: JRochelle

Oblahma sings about the wrong Rev. Wright...

http://www.tonebee.com/Ringtone_Maker-Paul_Shanklin-mp3_ringtones_artist_21496.html


24 posted on 06/01/2008 7:50:01 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: ridesthemiles

I think one important item has been overlooked.
After over 45 years of affrimative action, the War On Poverty, Welfare, extra credits to get into college for blacks in America, we have had a glimpse into just exactly what the yuppie black in this country really thinks:
We have seen what they eagerly go sit and listen to on Sunday for about 2 hours. They have a more than decent education, clothes, food, cars, jobs that gave them a bump up and over some more qualified candidates, and they sit inside their special “church” on Sunday and lambast the white man whose taxes paid for their welfare and education.
All in all, I think it is disgusting, and I want more attention put upon what has been revealed to all of us. We need to pay attention.


25 posted on 06/01/2008 7:50:29 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: JRochelle
"Hillary and McCain would wish they had a preacher with the integrity of Jeremiah Wright. … They got some old weak preacher…some old Joel Osteen cotton candy preacher."

I hope he keeps talking.

26 posted on 06/01/2008 7:52:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: El Cid

When I first heard the audio clips of Fr. Rev. Pflegler I thought it was a black preacher. He sounds like a southern black preacher to a tee. Something fake about that....seems like his sermon words are rooted in emotionalism and not the meat of the Word.


27 posted on 06/01/2008 7:59:20 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: denydenydeny

“The best description I’ve heard of Pfleger’s bizarre preaching style is “channelling Dick Shawn in The Producers.”

LOL!


28 posted on 06/01/2008 7:59:48 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: ridesthemiles
After over 45 years of affrimative action, the War On Povedrty, Welfare, extra credits to get into college for blacks in America, we have had a glimpse into just exactly what the yuppie black in this country really thinks:

Yep. And if this is all my contibutions to inner-city charities has bought, they're off the list. They're obviously just a scam to enrich the people running them who do nothing but teach hate. Not another dime.

29 posted on 06/01/2008 8:06:49 PM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: JRochelle
Father Pfleger really gets into character during some sermons.


30 posted on 06/01/2008 8:14:04 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
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To: JRochelle

What is up with Pfleger? Couldn’t he find a Catholic congregation somewhere? I see a pathetic imitation of a black standup comedian, trying as hard as possible to insult everyone who is not a black liberation dissident. Since when did the Catholic church need a black panther, nation of Islam diocese? This is not the way to bring blacks into the Catholic church. You try and shape the person into an image more like God, not shape the church into an image more like a nightclub.


31 posted on 06/01/2008 8:16:07 PM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: JRochelle

Part of Pfleger’s remarks in one sermon were: “America is the greatest sin against God.” (Audio just played on the John Batchelor radio show on KFI-AM.)


33 posted on 06/01/2008 8:16:32 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Good point.


34 posted on 06/01/2008 8:18:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: llandres
Re: 21

Although it’s only happened maybe twice ever, these particular churches need to have their 501C-3 tax-exempt status jerked for politicking from the pulpit (which they do repeatedly).

I was thinking more of the Carthage treatment (i.e., razing these false churches to ground, and salting the land with salt...)...

Paul foresaw these characters infesting our churches - who seek to make disciples for themselves - and not for Christ:

Acts 20:29-30 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

35 posted on 06/01/2008 8:20:06 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: JRochelle

Posted by Scott Ott on Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:03:45 AM
Dear Sen. Obama,

Now that you are back on the market, so to speak, having abandoned your church home of two decades to allow your friends to “worship in peace”, I’d like to invite you to consider my church. Let me tell you a little bit about it.

Senator, in my church we love and worship Jesus. We believe the Bible is the word of God. Our preachers faithfully proclaim the gospel of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. Our people live out their faith in a variety of ways, from feeding the poor, to providing medical care in rural Africa and elsewhere, to taking the good news of Jesus to Tanzania, France, England and several dozen other places around the world.

Sen. Obama, if you love Jesus, and enjoy the fellowship of others who share your faith in Christ, then you and Michelle and the girls might feel at home here.

Of course, we’re not perfect. We lack some of the features to which your family has become accustomed. For example, our pastors never talk about political candidates from the pulpit. There’s not a whole lot of angry screaming — in fact, none. No preacher here has ever called down God’s condemnation upon our native land.

In fact, on Memorial Day and Independence Day and Veterans Day, we praise God that we live in a free land, thanks to the willing sacrifice of those who bled and died that this nation might live. We actually sing, from time to time, ‘God Bless America’, because it’s a prayer to the one who has secured our liberty that he might guide us even in dark and troubling times.

We’re Republicans. We’re Democrats. We’re Independents. We’re political apathetics. We’re Americans. Above all, we’re people who love Jesus. Through Jesus, we have come to love others, even those with whom we disagree. We’re happy that “There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.” (Romans 8:1,2)

If you like liberation theology, at our church you get it, but it’s not limited to the poor, or to any particular race, because “if the Son (Jesus) sets you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:38) no matter what you look like or how much you earn.

So, Sen. Obama, now that you’re church shopping, why not stop by?

For a man who’s all about “change” this one might be refreshing.

Sincerely,
Scott Ott


36 posted on 06/01/2008 8:23:11 PM PDT by Misschuck
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To: JRochelle

So, this is the “official” Catholic teaching on this matter? If not, why isn’t he excommunicated?

The Catholic church has a house it is still FAR from getting in order. What, otherwise, is an “official hierarchy” for?


37 posted on 06/01/2008 8:25:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: tflabo
Re: 27
When I first heard the audio clips of Fr. Rev. Pflegler I thought it was a black preacher...

I admit, I couldn't bring myself to watch any of the clips... but I read the transcripts, and about how the ('congregation' .... or more accurately put: the 'audience') responded.
I'm no Hillary fan -- but the pulpit isn't a place to mock people and to throw insults. We are all sinners in need of a Saviour. The pastor's job is to point people towards repentance and towards Christ. Wallowing in self-pity, throwing insults, and spreading hatred does just the opposite...
A pox on the Pfleglers, Wrights, and their ilk... They need repentance and saving too, but in their present position they seem more interested in leading their flocks off the cliff in their desire for self-aggrandizement.

38 posted on 06/01/2008 8:27:28 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: JRochelle

Attention: Gay Priest Vanilla Ice disses Joel Osteen!


39 posted on 06/01/2008 8:27:36 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: El Cid

Cid....watch the video at least once of Rev. Pfleger spouting off his words. Adds a different perspective and he’s quite the showman. Spot on about your mention of what is important for messages coming from the pulpits.


40 posted on 06/01/2008 8:35:37 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Sender

Pfleger said today that he is the victim of hate and of YouTube. He needs six bodyguards to stand outside his church because of death threats. Maybe he should go live with Jeremiah is his gated, white suburban neighborhood.

What’s with Cardinal George? He can’t come up with any stronger discipline that getting Pfleger to promise not to mention political candidates? George may be concerned about losing parishoners at St Sabrina. In the meantime, white suburban Catholics like me will stop funding the archdiocese and George’s Gold Coast mansion.


41 posted on 06/01/2008 8:54:07 PM PDT by Raster Man
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To: denydenydeny

At least Dick Shawn was an actor, was funny without hating anyone, and didn’t do a “shuck and jive” presentation.

Pfleger is not an actor, is not funny with his hate, and is doing a racist stereotypic portrayal of black clergymen.

What the hell is going on in Chicago, and why did Obama support it for so long? God only knows what he will do if elected president?

3:00 AM The Red Phone rings. Pres. Obama answers it, asking “Who is this?”

Voice on the other end of the phone: “It’s me, the Pfleger-man. I need some good lines for my sermon today. You got any?”


42 posted on 06/01/2008 9:01:05 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ConservativeMind
I was wondering about that too.

Why can't this Priest's boss fire him, straight away?

The evidence of racist incitement is on the tape of his sermon, what is the hold up?

I assume the Vatican is in charge of all Priests?

43 posted on 06/01/2008 9:08:03 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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Actually, Pfleger did something that would make most people blanche in terror: He got in the way of people worshipping God. To get up in church and spout off all kinds of junk that has dick to do with salvation, Jesus, the Word, or how to have a closer relationship with the Lord, puts one in the position of....adversary? I remember one king who wanted to be a priest, and decided he knew how to do sacrifices. God gave him leprosy, and he stayed a leper until he died. The Lord is NOT mocked, and Wright, Pfleger, and all the rest of those who stand in the place between God and His people and make noise that leads away from worship will get what's theirs.
44 posted on 06/01/2008 9:48:17 PM PDT by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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Father Pfleger Bashed Clintons...Again
ABC | June 1 | Jake Tapper
Posted on 06/01/2008 2:02:38 PM PDT by PghBaldy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2024512/posts


45 posted on 06/01/2008 9:50:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: kcvl

I’m waiting for him to call us cracker and honky. That has to be next.


46 posted on 06/01/2008 9:55:25 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

You mean, something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu1TZVX72Aw


47 posted on 06/01/2008 10:48:51 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: JRochelle

I think what is being overlooked with respect to Fr. Pfleger is that he is part of a broader pattern that tells us something alarming about Obama. Obamsa’s relationship with him goes back some 20 years; as it does with Wright, the hate-monger, anti-Semite and racist who preaches bizarre conspiracy theories. And, as does his relationship with Bill Ayers, the unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist; and as does his relationship with the swindler Tony Rezko, who helped Obama in a very dubious real estate deal to acquire his home property. Any one of these relationships could possibly be explained. But, in the AGGREGATE, they clearly present a pattern of unsavory and criminal relationships. Guilt by association? Yes, if the associates are clearly guilty of nefarious conduct and you choose to associate with them.


48 posted on 06/01/2008 11:03:21 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: denydenydeny
I think we are beginning to see what happens to Christianity in the hands of the Left.

The Democrat's effort to appeal to Christians with candidates with a Christian face has spun out of control. I doubt if Christians will now vote for Obama because of his Christian background.

49 posted on 06/01/2008 11:29:27 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: JRochelle

Fr. Michael Pfleger must be an example of what Senator Byrd refers to as a White Nigger.

Senator Robert Byrd says “white niggers” on TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0


50 posted on 06/01/2008 11:38:16 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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