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California High School Valedictorian to Be Deported
Fox News ^ | June 2, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/02/2008 1:43:30 PM PDT by MissouriConservative

FRESNO, Calif. — The valedictorian at Fresno's Bullard High School won't be attending college in the United States this fall because he's scheduled to be deported.

Arthur Mkoyan's 4.0 grade-point average qualified him to enter one of the state's top universities. But the 17-year-old and his mother have been ordered back to Armenia after their last appeal for asylum failed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; armenia; armenians; asylum; deportation; fresno; highschool; immigrantlist; immigration; teens; valedictorian
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1 posted on 06/02/2008 1:43:31 PM PDT by MissouriConservative
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To: MissouriConservative

And to think all those illegal mexicans are getting a free ride..


2 posted on 06/02/2008 1:45:06 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: MissouriConservative

Tsedesoutioun (so long!) ...


3 posted on 06/02/2008 1:45:21 PM PDT by mgc1122
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To: MissouriConservative

Smart Guy can apply for a Student Visa.


4 posted on 06/02/2008 1:45:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: xcamel

To think of the numbers that could be deported and the government picks the one applying for asylum....lol.


5 posted on 06/02/2008 1:48:48 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (In debates over individual liberties, fabricated and propagandized science should play no role.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Na na na na. Na na na na. Hey hey hey. Goodbye.

Adios, mofo.

ZERO TOLERANCE!


6 posted on 06/02/2008 1:50:02 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: MissouriConservative
Being smart does not forgive breaking the immigration laws!

Unless, of course... you vote Denmocrat.

Never fear... change is coming!

7 posted on 06/02/2008 1:53:32 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: MissouriConservative

Good. He can be the smartest kid in that third world sewer when he gets home.


8 posted on 06/02/2008 1:55:57 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: MissouriConservative
Armenians are bad. Always trying to accuse the ROP of terrible things. That's probably the real reason he's getting the boot.
9 posted on 06/02/2008 1:56:28 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: MissouriConservative

Once he is back in Armenia, Arthur could return to the United States on a student visa. Or he could ask a member of Congress to introduce a private bill on his behalf to grant him legal residency, Silverman said.

Arthur contacted Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein for help weeks ago. Feinstein has introduced private bills in the past in an effort to grant legal status to individuals.

Feinstein’s office is looking into Arthur’s case, said Claire Bowyer, Feinstein’s deputy press secretary.

Private bills are rarely introduced and often don’t pass, according to Feinstein’s office. Once a bill is introduced, deportation is halted. If it passes, the applicant receives a green card. In some cases, the bill allows a parent to obtain legal residency along with the child.

“Arthur Mkoyan represents another reason why Congress needs to pass the Dream Act,” Feinstein said in a prepared statement. “It is in our nation’s interest to provide talented students the incentive to take this path toward being responsible and law-abiding members of our society.”


10 posted on 06/02/2008 1:56:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: martin_fierro
Smart Guy can apply for a Student Visa.

Except that need-based financial aid is off limits to international students. And, if he's already illegally present, I doubt he has the tens of thousands to pony up each year for college.

This is one reason why the illegals want amnesty so badly: the federal, state, and institutional financial aid bonanza!

11 posted on 06/02/2008 1:57:16 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (History is a story written by the finger of God. — C.S. Lewis)
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To: MissouriConservative

Beat it, smart guy.


12 posted on 06/02/2008 2:02:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tex Pete

Call me crazy, but... I’d be in favor of granting a visa for someone who has demonstrated talent and the ability to CONTRIBUTE to society, rather than just be a drain.

I say: Let’s take ALL their smart people.


13 posted on 06/02/2008 2:03:24 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Unfortunately, this is not a grey area issue. We either are going to hold EVERYONE to the standards or we are not. This is a shame. I hope that he can get back in legally. But, he has to go.


14 posted on 06/02/2008 2:09:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Why? Don’t we have control over who we let in?


15 posted on 06/02/2008 2:13:01 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Vermont Lt

Why? Don’t we have control over who we let in?


16 posted on 06/02/2008 2:13:24 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: MissouriConservative

This is idiotic. Armenians are not the problem.


17 posted on 06/02/2008 2:13:43 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: kcvl
Feinstein has introduced private bills in the past in an effort to grant legal status to individuals.

Private bills are rarely introduced and often don’t pass, according to Feinstein’s office.

Somebody needs to tatto the phrase "Bills of Attainder" to Dianne FineSwine's forehead so she'll see it every day. That, and redecorate every room of her mansion with wallpaper that is covered with a large print version of the US Constitution, with the Second Amendment highlighted and bolded.

18 posted on 06/02/2008 2:17:57 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: MissouriConservative
Arthur Mkoyan's 4.0 grade-point average qualified him to enter one of the state's top universities. But the 17-year-old and his mother have been ordered back to Armenia after their last appeal for asylum failed.



Throw all the bums out!

19 posted on 06/02/2008 2:19:11 PM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“Why? Don’t we have control over who we let in?”

Sure we do, Tim. LOL! 8>}


20 posted on 06/02/2008 2:21:43 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wendy1946
Armenians are not the problem.

Uh, so then, you're saying the anti-illegal immigration push really IS about race, after all??

Illegal immigration is a problem that exists without regard to race. The instant you begin to use race or ethincity to delinate between illegal immigrants who either ARE or ARE NOT a problem, then you cross over into the verbotenland of stone-cold bigotry, so you'd better get straight exactly which side of that concertina wire you wanna be on. There's no riding the fence on this one.

21 posted on 06/02/2008 2:24:01 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Only The Tribulation is a crucible sufficient to the emergence of a Bride fit for her Bridegroom God)
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To: Bender2
Being smart does not forgive breaking the immigration laws! - Did he break the immigration laws or was his asylum denied.
22 posted on 06/02/2008 2:29:00 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: wolfcreek
Sure we do, Tim. LOL! 8>}

LOL Point taken... Try this:

Shouldn't we have control over who we let in? Give me the smart, hard working people.... I'll build a better America.

23 posted on 06/02/2008 2:29:34 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: HKMk23
Uh, so then, you're saying the anti-illegal immigration push really IS about race, after all??

Uh... no... I'm saying, it's about ability, talent, skill... Who can CONTRIBUTE vs who will be a DRAIN.

Here's my rule.... score >1500 on SAT, or >33 on ACT, or somehow manage a 4.0 in an accredited High School.... I'll find room for you.

24 posted on 06/02/2008 2:33:59 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Amen!

This might have been one of the the best and brightest but, he’ll have to wait.


25 posted on 06/02/2008 2:34:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“Here’s my rule.... score >1500 on SAT, or >33 on ACT, or somehow manage a 4.0 in an accredited High School.... I’ll find room for you.”

Unless they want to attend these schools.

http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2008/05/27/wake_forest_smith_drop_sat_condition/


26 posted on 06/02/2008 2:36:38 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: HKMk23

And... here’s a slightly less geek-favoring rule: Find a way to PAY your way here, and prove that you have a skill and a job when you arrive: I’ll find room.

This is one of the problems created by uncontrolled MASS, ILLEGAL immigration: We’ve lost site of the benefits of taking in GOOD people/workers from abroad..... in a legal fashion. Let’s speed the process for those who will help PULL the wagon.


27 posted on 06/02/2008 2:38:17 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Why? Don’t we have control over who we let in? - In this case we do, nowhere does it say he was here illegally, his asylum was denied, he has to leave.
28 posted on 06/02/2008 2:38:43 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SomeCallMeTim

It’s not a matter of letting smart ones in. What happens if that ‘standard’ morphs to race, beauty, sex, etc. ? What would you say then? As far as I’m concerned if they were in this country illegally or here under some other ‘pretense’ he STOLE that education from us Citizens. He was about to steal some more, potentially. No sympathies here.


29 posted on 06/02/2008 2:40:00 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: wolfcreek
Unless they want to attend these schools.

That's code for "We can't lower our admission standards low enough to allow minority applicants, and still meet the new Supreme Court guidelines"...

Despicable.

30 posted on 06/02/2008 2:41:05 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Find a way to PAY your way here, and prove that you have a skill and a job when you arrive - He was one year old.
31 posted on 06/02/2008 2:41:41 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Gaffer
What happens if that ‘standard’ morphs to race, beauty, sex, etc

Ok..ok... I'll allow "beautiful" females in too.

So... we should have told Einstein to stay home?

32 posted on 06/02/2008 2:43:18 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SF Republican
He was one year old.

... when his mother fled a crumbling Eastern Bloc country for the US, and applied for asylum...

Look... we now have some data on who this person is, and what his abilities are. That deserves a look.

"MERIT BASED ADMISSION"

Wow...I'm shocked that people here on FR don't support that.

33 posted on 06/02/2008 2:47:24 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Yes. Despite what you here about job talent markets here, the universities at grad schools are literally choked with forein students. I know this first hand.


34 posted on 06/02/2008 2:48:05 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

forein —— foreign.....


35 posted on 06/02/2008 2:48:38 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Despite what you here about job talent markets here, the universities at grad schools are literally choked with forein students.

Yes... I know they are. I say, let's KEEP them here. Most of them WANT to stay. They love this country and don't want to go back to the crap-holes they came from. The United States, as a whole, benefits when we keep talent here.

36 posted on 06/02/2008 2:52:46 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Some people on here are so short-sighted it's really disgusting. We should be encouraging people like this to immigrate here.
37 posted on 06/02/2008 2:54:52 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: SomeCallMeTim

If he’s currently here legally he has a path to citizenship and higher education that starts at the nearest Army recruiter.


38 posted on 06/02/2008 2:56:16 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather.)
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To: Left2Right
Some people on here are so short-sighted it's really disgusting. We should be encouraging people like this to immigrate here.

I think, it's more a desire for some sort of moral consistency. I have no such problem. For me? I WANT Chemical Engineers and Physicist...

Strawberry pickers? Not so much. Anyway, I HATE strawberries. :-)

39 posted on 06/02/2008 2:58:05 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Gaffer

Here - hear


40 posted on 06/02/2008 3:04:53 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican

Asylum was denied. See:

http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/637728.html

Not sure why they haven’t started normal citizenship application process after all these years. They had work VISA’s when they came according to the wife who appeared on Ray Appleton’s show KMJ, Fresno today(Monday).

Show should be available here soon:
http://www.kmj580.com/kmjpodcasts.html?pollId=202


41 posted on 06/02/2008 3:06:48 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago
Yes, I know, that was my point; it appeared many on this thread jumped on the illegal immigrant thing when that was not the case at all.
42 posted on 06/02/2008 3:11:45 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican

OK....but technically they became illegal immigrants when their appeal was denied and their work VISA’s were long expired. Just sayin’ ;-)


43 posted on 06/02/2008 3:15:11 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Gaffer
As far as I’m concerned if they were in this country illegally or here under some other ‘pretense’ he STOLE that education from us Citizens.

According to the brief article, he was here legally up util the time his last appeal for amnesty was denied. That makes his education legitimate, in my eyes.

44 posted on 06/02/2008 3:16:22 PM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Drago

Um technically I don’t think so, from the story:

A spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement said they were given an extension


45 posted on 06/02/2008 3:18:15 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Tex Pete

bttt


46 posted on 06/02/2008 3:25:22 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: SF Republican

2/3rds right....father is in custody in Arizona, he was not granted an “extension”. Father arrived 2 years before wife and kid...sort of a different case. Just wondering why they waited 15 years to address their status, and why it takes 15 years for the Feds to resolve their status.


47 posted on 06/02/2008 3:25:22 PM PDT by Drago
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Sure we have control over who comes in. But that is not the issue. He has to “go” before he can “come back.”


48 posted on 06/02/2008 3:28:42 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Moot issue on the basis that the kid shouldn’t have been here in the first place.

Send ‘em ALL home.


49 posted on 06/02/2008 3:28:53 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: MortMan

I believe I had a phrase qualifier in my response something on the order of “here under false pretenses”. The way things look to me the ‘asylum’ claim may have been without merit. In that case, he was here under false pretenses and ‘illegally’ for that matter.....


50 posted on 06/02/2008 3:31:23 PM PDT by Gaffer
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