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Time Warner Cable tries metering Internet use
The Associated Press ^ | 06/02/2008 | Peter Svensson

Posted on 06/02/2008 5:57:03 PM PDT by abt87

NEW YORK (AP) — You're used to paying extra if you use up your cell phone minutes, but will you be willing to pay extra if your home computer goes over its Internet allowance?

Time Warner Cable Inc. customers — and, later, others — may have to, if the company's test of metered Internet access is successful.

On Thursday, new Time Warner Cable Internet subscribers in Beaumont, Texas, will have monthly allowances for the amount of data they upload and download. Those who go over will be charged $1 per gigabyte, a Time Warner Cable executive told the Associated Press.

Time Warner Cable had said in January that it was planning to conduct the trial in Beaumont, but did not give any details. On Monday, Leddy said its tiers will range from $29.95 a month for relatively slow service at 768 kilobits per second and a 5-gigabyte monthly cap to $54.90 per month for fast downloads at 15 megabits per second and a 40-gigabyte cap. Those prices cover the Internet portion of subscription bundles that include video or phone services. Both downloads and uploads will count toward the monthly cap.

(Excerpt) Read more at ap.google.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cable; internet; timewarner

1 posted on 06/02/2008 5:57:03 PM PDT by abt87
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To: abt87

It won’t be long before Turner starts charging us to visit the FreeRepublic.


2 posted on 06/02/2008 5:59:31 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: abt87

I just switched to FIOS, doesn’t have the same bandwidth issues.


3 posted on 06/02/2008 6:00:29 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: abt87

They have internet in Beaumont? If they do I guess that they can get away with charging overtime for using it.


4 posted on 06/02/2008 6:00:46 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: abt87

I’d be on DSL in a heartbeat if my ISP ever tried this.


5 posted on 06/02/2008 6:00:48 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: abt87

Time Warner doesn’t give you what you’re paying for in the first place. Why should this be a surprise. Worst company in America IMHO.


6 posted on 06/02/2008 6:02:38 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: abt87
JFC on a raft... Will somebody think up something NEW? Radius was originally implemented to charge for links. Old unix systems have a link cost built into the netstat and ifconfig function. Calling a long distance # on a land line is more expensive than handing it off to a computer on the border.

And guess what.... At high speeds... doing throttling costs more than it saves, because of retries.

/johnny

7 posted on 06/02/2008 6:03:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Brilliant

I guess we’ll have to start rationing visits to sites like YouTube as well. Unfortunately TW (and Comcast, since they’re also considering it in the future) will get away with it, since they’re often the only guys in town due to franchise agreements (dial-up is a joke in an era of graphic-intensive websites and heavy downloads for music and movies)

If they price their service just right in Beumont (before spiking it in the future), they might be able to trick the large group of people who pay them simply for checking email, into accepting it. Execs will then say, “see, people ARE willing to pay for our metered service, now the rest of you will get nickeled and dimed as well!”


8 posted on 06/02/2008 6:03:46 PM PDT by abt87 (Liberals aren't stupid...they can still beat Koko the monkey in chess)
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To: abt87
I try to make a money with photo and video and at max resolutions and file sizes, I burn up a few gigs easily. Add a few more if there are any FTP problems.
9 posted on 06/02/2008 6:03:49 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: abt87

I seem to remember that AOL used to charge by the minute when it first came out.


10 posted on 06/02/2008 6:04:47 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: abt87

They be just dusting off some old AOL business models.


11 posted on 06/02/2008 6:05:26 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: abt87

I may not have a problem with this if they gave me a monthly credit for the 100’s of tv stations I never watch.


12 posted on 06/02/2008 6:11:10 PM PDT by OCC
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To: JRandomFreeper

“And guess what.... At high speeds... doing throttling costs more than it saves, because of retries.”

Perhaps thats part of their agenda. Throttle the network, cause congestion and rake in the dough.

Whats ironic is there is tons of fiber in the ground not being used.


13 posted on 06/02/2008 6:11:23 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Positive

I used to use Road Runner. I switched to FIOS. Way faster and a lot cheaper, too.


14 posted on 06/02/2008 6:11:42 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: Biblebelter
They be just dusting off some old AOL business models.

Yep. But there's a difference now... What if there is no competition to kill off the model?

the infowarrior

15 posted on 06/02/2008 6:12:30 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: John Jorsett
I’d be on DSL in a heartbeat if my ISP ever tried this.

Free Enterprise Rules.

16 posted on 06/02/2008 6:15:35 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: abt87

They want to set limits for their overpriced internet access? Not only no, but **** no.


17 posted on 06/02/2008 6:17:06 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Doe Eyes

What about those who live in areas where TW is the only choice, AND there is no DSL or fiber?


18 posted on 06/02/2008 6:18:39 PM PDT by abt87 (Liberals aren't stupid...they can still beat Koko the monkey in chess)
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To: driftdiver
Having been in the business... People pay good money for fast, reliable connections. Everything else is Bravo Sierra.

And they will let you know. Months after you leave the business to go cook in a golf club to regain your self respect.

/johnny

19 posted on 06/02/2008 6:22:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: abt87
There are only two modalities. Make it faster and better, or squeeze the captives harder. I suspect that you will be able to avail yourself of competition before too long. The market doesn't speak as much as it shoves.

/johnny

20 posted on 06/02/2008 6:24:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: abt87
I believe this is more of a response to legally downloading movies like Netflix's new service and the crimp it puts in Time Warner's pay per view service. If TW can charge you $4 for an extra 4 GB to watch the movie, they've grossed about the same money as if they've sold you the pay per view, and they don't have to share that $4 with the studios.
21 posted on 06/02/2008 6:27:31 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: abt87

You mean like me, who have satellite internet?

40G sounds like a dream. I pay $55 a month for 7500MB average per rolling 30 days, 512KB down and a 3 second latency, which makes online gaming and some flash sites impossible to access.

Welcome to the Wonderful World of FAP (Fair Access Policy).


22 posted on 06/02/2008 6:28:38 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I spent 6 years in Telecom up until the bust. IMO it was a pure shell game with the owners spending just enough to keep complaints down to a dull roar. They care nothing for the consumer.

I fully understand your comment about regaining self respect.


23 posted on 06/02/2008 6:31:16 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: infowarrior

Free economy, someone always finds a better business model


24 posted on 06/02/2008 6:31:59 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: abt87
What about those who live in areas where TW is the only choice, AND there is no DSL or fiber?

You want the government to come in and set the price?

25 posted on 06/02/2008 6:38:06 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: driftdiver
The owners forgot that the engineers, who actually hold some stock... might just... shrug, and dump the whole mess off on the bean counters.

That has been worth every notch in my belt. Well, yeah... cooks that are engineers don't starve.... And get to play free golf.

/johnny

26 posted on 06/02/2008 6:38:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Doe Eyes

Actually, local and state governments are partially to blame. Most cable companies can get away with jacking up their rates so rapidly because they benefit from exclusive agreements that they sign with town or state officials. Satellite has weather and latency problems, which prevents satellite TV or Internet from becoming serious competition. I believe there are also areas that get cable, but their phone companies don’t offer DSL, let alone fiber.

Solution: governments should revoke the franchise agreements and allow competition between cable companies. Then the market will take care of itself, as consumers will demand lower prices.


27 posted on 06/02/2008 6:43:09 PM PDT by abt87 (Liberals aren't stupid...they can still beat Koko the monkey in chess)
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To: abt87
What about those who live in areas where TW is the only choice, AND there is no DSL or fiber?

Be patient. I'm guessing your phone company will be taking advantage of a business opportunity just given them on a silver platter.

28 posted on 06/02/2008 6:57:59 PM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I was using RR also.

I had 10mbs down and 1mbs up, but I have a server for small business so I needed more upload speed.

FIOS is giving me 15mbs up and down.

I know that Road Runner is fiber optic cable to the "node."

As I understand it each node distributes to from 200 to 300 modems. So all this heavy duty downloading is causing those 200 homes to get less download speed.

29 posted on 06/02/2008 7:12:59 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Positive
I just switched to FIOS, doesn’t have the same bandwidth issues.

What is FIOS?

30 posted on 06/02/2008 7:14:20 PM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: meyer

Verizon offers internet (and tv and phone service) by running fiber optic cables directly to your home. In contrast, cable companies only run fiber to the node, as a previous poster mentioned. FIOS has a lot more bandwidth available than any of the cable companies, and even offer a 20 Mbps upload/download service both ways, although that costs a pretty penny right now.

Unfortunately FIOS is not widely available, due to the fact that setting up the fiber is expensive. AT&T is also rolling out a similar service called U-Verse, although it will be structured under a similar “fiber to the node” system as the cable companies, since AT&T doesn’t want to spend more money building a similar network as Verizon.


31 posted on 06/02/2008 7:20:31 PM PDT by abt87 (Liberals aren't stupid...they can still beat Koko the monkey in chess)
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To: meyer; Positive
FIOS is my next POP. For that last mile.

/johnny

32 posted on 06/02/2008 7:24:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: abt87
bttt
33 posted on 06/02/2008 7:24:20 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Not all who wander are lost)
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To: abt87
Thanks, abt87.

I'm fortunate in that I have Comcast high speed and Bell South (AT&T) DSL available at my soon-to-be home. I'm going with Comcast initially for TV, Phone, and Cable because the price and performance are a bit better. But I am fortunate to have options.

The next upcoming option, if the price drops, will be internet access through my cell phone carrier, Verizon. They have it in many areas, but it isn't cheap.

One obstacle that exists for AT&T or any other land-line phone company is that in underground installations (in some jurisdictions anyway), the customer owns the wire from the junction box to the house. This is more prevalent in underground installations. Yes, it can be replaced with fiber, but it won't be cheap and could ultimately have a very long payback period. That would make any carrier reluctant to start providing that service. Overhead installations are much cheaper to upgrade since there's no digging and re-sodding involved.

34 posted on 06/02/2008 7:26:58 PM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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"What is FIOS? "

It's Verizon's brand for fiber optic cable to the house.

35 posted on 06/02/2008 7:27:50 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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Wirelessly.


36 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: abt87

Metered bandwidth is OK, but those caps are way too small. Especially for their outrageous prices.

If they’re going to have a 40Gb cap, drop the price to $20/month and assume people will pay the extra $30/month for extra data transfer.

Personally, I’ll stick with DSL, where I get a consistent 6Mb down at any time, day or night and have no caps.


37 posted on 06/02/2008 7:31:48 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Positive

I trade stocks and currencies online and I’d kill to have Fios where I live.

If I can find a map of where it’s available, I’ll move for it.


38 posted on 06/02/2008 7:35:21 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: Clemenza
AOL $9.95 per month for 5 hours on a 14.4 dial up.

Am I right if I say it was $3 per hour above the 5 hour basic?

I didn't last long with AOL, unlimited and cheaper drug me away.

39 posted on 06/02/2008 7:53:40 PM PDT by TYVets ( Governor Palin for President of the United States of America)
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To: All

I still have dial-up and it works fine for me. I go to you-tube and listen to the radio online too.I hope this new move by Comcast doesn’t affect me.


40 posted on 06/02/2008 8:15:31 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (Rush wouldn't lift a finger to help Fred or Duncan, yet he shills for Hillary. Rush is a fat idiot.)
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