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Latest From Behind The Scenes At TV Networks…. “What The F___”
Friends and Fiends at CBS | MB26

Posted on 06/03/2008 7:53:58 AM PDT by MindBender26

Latest From Behind The Scenes At TV Networks…. “What The ___”

Just off the phones with old friends and fiends at the networks. Here is the latest as they see it, although as show producers and assignment editors wrap up morning meetings at this hour, there are still many unanswered questions about the direction of the Dem nominating process, ie: What will Hillary do?

Her likely departure from the campaign will NOT be driven by tonight’s vote totals, but by the details of a deal she can construct with Obama.

A few notes. Look at the next 10 days from an Occam’s Razor viewpoint. The simplest answer is usually the valid one. There will be much misdirection over the next few days, but make sure you “look behind the curtain” and see who is pulling the levers… AND WHY!

There are already a number of far-reaching events in progress:

1: Multiple “tell all” books are already at the printers. Most are scathing in their treatment of both Bill and Hillary, although some attempt to blame Bill for all the problems created for Saint Hillary.

2: Attempts to blame Bill’s incredibly bad behavior on “post-open heart surgery trauma” are falling on deaf ears. Those who would make excuses for Bill are becoming a smaller and smaller element of the Democrat Party. There is a huge fight brewing between the old guard, union and blue collar Dems on one side and the new, far-left wing, gay, academic and Soros-type Dems on the other side. Best bets as to a victor, Old Line Dems (unless Obama wins the General, which is very unlikely) Why the old-line dems, when the New Kids On The Black have the “fire?” Because the old-line party pols won’t play “fair,” and the kids won’t know what hit them.

3. Hillary sees 2008 as “all-in.” She either wins it all this year, or it’s all over. She has no desire to remain one of a hundred members of the world’s biggest “old boys’ club,” the U.S. Senate, and has little stomach for a fight to oust a sitting Black Dem governor of New York. In addition, her failure to win the endorsement of important senators such as Kennedy was shattering to her ego.

4. Bill is a dead man walking. Everyone is VERY po’ed at him.

5. Hillary may have the Michelle Obama “I hate white people” tape, if it even exists, but it could matter little in the Dem primaries. To Dem primary voters, such a statement would be Radical Chic. In the General, it could be disastrous, but Dem primary voters are VERY different from General voters.

What will happen tonight and the next few days? No one knows, but they are expecting some serious fireworks.

The next 72 hours could be some serious popcorn time.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; billclinton; democrats; hillary; obama
Watch it all unfold,,,,,,,
1 posted on 06/03/2008 7:53:58 AM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
Fox News reporting that Hillary will acknowledge that Obama has the delegates to be the nominee. Not conceding.
2 posted on 06/03/2008 7:57:08 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

3 posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:28 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It will not be that “mild.” It will get “hotter” within the next few days.


4 posted on 06/03/2008 8:01:34 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

She is not all in on 08. 08 is lost for her. If she were to wrestle the nomination from Obama this year, she would go down in flames with the lack of black voter turnout costing her PA, MI etc. She has had to know this since the delegate math turned on her.

She is now all in on 2012. That requires Obama to lose big. So she stays in to the convention to sap his strength. To me the interesting question comes post Novemeber. She will be the buyers remorse candidate for 2012. Does she dump Bill and will that help her?


5 posted on 06/03/2008 8:03:28 AM PDT by JLS
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To: MindBender26

RE: Your # 5.

Have you heard what Bob Beckel said early this morning on FOX?

http://greenroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/03/beckels-obama-bombshell/

FOX News Blogs » Alisyn in the Greenroom
June 3rd, 2008 7:15 AM Eastern
Beckel’s Obama Bombshell
by Alisyn Camerota
Were you watching at 6:25 when Democratic strategist Bob Beckel dropped a bomb on us? He said he’d heard through his political pipeline that a big shoe was about to drop on the Obama campaign. It has something to do with Michelle Obama. Beckel wouldn’t say anything more other than this explosive story may happen tomorrow. Do you think the GOP has something up its sleeve that could blow up Obama’s campaign? If so, when do you think they’ll unleash it?

....
And YET- just now on FOX Beckel sounds as though it’s all over...sort of. He is making all the right noises- that Obama has it wrapped up- but there’s a tone in his voice that sounds...worried?? (OR I’m reading a lot into him this morning)


6 posted on 06/03/2008 8:06:29 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MindBender26

Barak Hussein Obama is a crippled candidate. He has far too much baggage and he doesn’t even recognize that fact. If McCain gets his act together and the tape is as damaging as it seems to be it will be a debacle in November. A defeat of McGovern/Mondale proportions.


7 posted on 06/03/2008 8:07:44 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: holdonnow; Dog; Miss Didi; AliVeritas; STARWISE

Hmmmm...ping!


8 posted on 06/03/2008 8:08:28 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MindBender26
The Dem Convention will solve everything......with balloons. 2004 classic flashback.....

'No confetti. No confetti yet. Go balloons. Go balloons. More balloons. All balloons. All balloons. Come on guys, let's move it."

"Jesus, we need more balloons. I want all balloons to go, goddamn. No confetti. No confetti. No confetti. I want more balloons. What's happening to the balloons? We need more balloons. We need all of them coming down... balloons.

"Go balloons, balloons... what's happening balloons, there's not enough coming down. All balloons - where the hell - there's nothing falling." "What the f... are you guys doing up there?"

MORE BALLOONS!!!!

9 posted on 06/03/2008 8:13:34 AM PDT by edpc (Republican Attack Machine Field Service Technician)
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To: mware

meant to ping you!


10 posted on 06/03/2008 8:32:11 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MindBender26

Cue the cameras and let the action begin.


11 posted on 06/03/2008 8:32:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Vanilla Ice Priest, Pfleger,“America is the greatest sin against God!")
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To: SE Mom

Rush is talking about the rumored tape...it seems as if she is really conceding.


12 posted on 06/03/2008 9:38:07 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: MindBender26
but make sure you “look behind the curtain” and see who is pulling the levers… AND WHY!

The Democrat newsrooms will continue to protect that oily scumbag Obama the way a mother protects a slow child, and they will do anything to get him elected President.

That's ALL anyone needs to know.

13 posted on 06/03/2008 9:40:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Red_Devil 232
It's possible she still has a trick or two up her sleeve. If she really wanted to turn things into a prime time whirlygig she would claim she has been slighted by her own party, oppressed as a woman candidate and declare she is running as an INDEPENDENT candidate for President.

A tremendous amount of people would probably vote for her as an independent that would not vote for her as a Democrat. It worked for Joe Lieberman who they shoved out of the Demo party in Connecticut and he got himself re-elected as an independent. A move to an independent ticket could signal the beginning of a viable THIRD party because of the status of her present candidacy.

I'm afraid, however, her handlers, would advise her against abandoning the Democrat party. If she's in deep need of power and staying in the spotlight she will hang around and take what is offered her and stay in the party mix. Time will tell how daring and smart she really is.

As everyone has been saying... pull up a chair, grab some popcorn, and watch the show.

14 posted on 06/03/2008 9:45:16 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Former Proud Canadian
If McCain gets his act together ...

He's safe then.

15 posted on 06/03/2008 9:45:21 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Red_Devil 232
It's possible she still has a trick or two up her sleeve. If she really wanted to turn things into a prime time whirlygig she would claim she has been slighted by her own party, oppressed as a woman candidate and declare she is running as an INDEPENDENT candidate for President.

A tremendous amount of people would probably vote for her as an independent that would not vote for her as a Democrat. It worked for Joe Lieberman who they shoved out of the Demo party in Connecticut and he got himself re-elected as an independent. A move to an independent ticket could signal the beginning of a viable THIRD party because of the status of her present candidacy.

I'm afraid, however, her handlers, would advise her against abandoning the Democrat party. If she's in deep need of power and staying in the spotlight she will hang around and take what is offered her and stay in the party mix. Time will tell how daring and smart she really is.

As everyone has been saying... pull up a chair, grab some popcorn, and watch the show.

16 posted on 06/03/2008 9:48:38 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: MindBender26
The AP Reporter Says NEVER MIND

17 posted on 06/03/2008 9:54:54 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: MindBender26

Verrry interesting.......


18 posted on 06/03/2008 9:55:21 AM PDT by keeper53 ("In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God..." -John 1:1)
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To: MindBender26

19 posted on 06/03/2008 9:57:37 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: MindBender26
but by the details of a deal she can construct with Obama.

Obama won't put the witch on the ticket. What else can he offer her to make her quit?

I really have to question the parameters of any possible "deal."

20 posted on 06/03/2008 10:06:29 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: MindBender26
the old guard, union and blue collar Dems on one side and the new, far-left wing, gay, academic and Soros-type Dems on the other side.

I do not think this breakout is entirely accurate. Much of the old guard and leadership is with Obama (Kennedy's, Carter, Pelosi, etc.), and Obama has a massive lock on the African-American vote. Gays appear to be heavily skewed toward the Clinton camp. Clinton has Hispanic backing, but that could erode heavily if key Hispanics such as Richardson (VP contender) are telegraphed for cabinet level positions. Looks to me like Obama has the actual political juice.

I expect the Dem powers that be will increasingly distance themselves from team Clinton in the days ahead leaving mostly angry (older) white women and gays to make noise for a while.

The wild card is an all out attempt from the Clinton camp to force the witch onto the ticket.
21 posted on 06/03/2008 10:08:46 AM PDT by info_scout
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To: Grampa Dave

I see they will destroy each other. Hillary will never give up the and MSM will never forgive Hillary for doing Obama in.


22 posted on 06/03/2008 10:33:52 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: denydenydeny

>>>>What else can he offer her to make her quit?

Campaign debt $


23 posted on 06/03/2008 10:40:36 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: SE Mom; Bahbah; potlatch; devolve; All
Thanks, SEM.

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"Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her rights to take this to the Credentials Committee," said Ickes, referring to the committee of appeal.

"There's been a lot of talk about party unity let's all come together and put our arms around each other.

I submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, that hijacking four delegates ... is not a good way to start down the path of party unity."

Ickes' angry sermon, as it turned out, was just the prelude to a near total meltdown at the end. The other committee members grimaced at the shouts of derision, which included chants of "McCain 08,""Bastards," and "Denver," an echo of their hopes that Clinton would take her case all the way to the Democratic National Convention to be held in August in Denver.

After the meeting adjourned, women sat on the floor sobbing, while others, like Pennsylvania voter Betty Jean King, 60, a retired teacher from Shippensburg, ranted to television cameras: "If it's not Hillary, I'm voting for McCain. 17 million people voted for Hillary and I'm telling you many of them are going to defect."

Which leads us to a few short Youtube interviews ((at link above)) from protesters, and a racist nutjob from the DNC rules committee yesterday.....we are in a bad, bad way.

If Obama does not put Clinton on the ticket, I honestly believe he will be committing political suicide, as distasteful as that may be."


24 posted on 06/03/2008 11:04:43 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

LOL.

God bless Rush Limbaugh and Operation Chaos.


25 posted on 06/03/2008 11:19:21 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: info_scout

“...(older) white women and gays ...”


Those are two very important sources of funding and campaign workers for the donks.


26 posted on 06/03/2008 12:29:50 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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To: STARWISE; devolve; MindBender26; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; All
If Hillary actually wants the VP, she is going to have great fun with Michelle and THIS gang of Obama supporters, lol. Large post, double spacing would double the size.

OBAMA’S SUPPORTERS READ LIKE A LIST OF WHO’S WHO AMONG RACISTS, THUGS, MUSLIMS, MARXIST AND AMERICAN HATERS OF THE WORLD.

>William Ayers (Weatherman Underground bomber, unrepentant domestic terrorist)
Frank Davis (Member Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama)
>Jeremiah Wright (Black Liberation militant, racist, and Pastor)
Tony Rezko (Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing)
>Louis Farrakhan (Nation of Islam Leader, racist, anti-American)
RailaOrdinga (Fundamental Islamic Candidate, Kenya, Obama’s Cousin)
>Daniel Ortega (Marxist Sandinista Leader. Nicarauga)
Raul Castro (Hard-line Communist Leader, Cuba)
>Communist Party Illinois, (US Communist Political Party)
Socialist Party USA, (Marxist Socialist Political Party)
>The New Black Panther Party, (Black Militant Organization, anti-American and racist)
Hamas Terrorist Organization, (Islamic Terrorist Organisation)
>More than 80 attorneys for Guantanamo detainees -who have been offering free-of-charge legal services. Not surprising that lawyers for Muslim terrorists would support Obama. >The Communist Party USA
>The Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism
>Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim congressman
> Sam Graham-Felsen, (Obama campaign’s official blogger) He spent time in France taking part in labor riots, has written for a socialist magazine, hung a communist flag in his home, and was a fan of Marx while at Harvard.
>Kwame Kilpatrick
>MoveOn.org George Soros’ (slumlord undergoing trial) son, Jonathan Soros, an attorney and financier, recently promoted to deputy manager of Soros Fund Management , is personally involved with MoveOn.org’s activities.
>Muslim Americans for Obama ‘08
>The Muslim American Society
>Obama Supporters for Marijuana Law Reform
>Obama Youth, “Obama Youth” had as its logo the Islamic crescent and stars (until word got out on the net and they had to clean it up)
>President Daniel Ortega ..who statee, “It’s not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. ... but yes, they are laying the foundations for a revolutionary change.”
>Project Islamic H. O. P. E., ..who displayed Obama as their banner boy until word got out and they had to clean that up. Obama is no longer there on the site.
>Rev. Al Sharpton ..obviously supports Obama, but obviously advised to keep it quiet.
>Shepard Fairey, Official artist of the Obama posters...remarkable resemblance to Marxist posters
>Tony Rezko, Obama said that he estimated Rezko raised about 50,000 to 60,000 for his political career. Obama has collected at least $168,308 from Rezko and his circle.
>Malaak Shabazz Daughter of Malcomb X
>The Socialist Party USA >George Soros billionaire - Jew hater
They all support, endorse, and/or friends and mentors and advisors of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

They all hate America, they all want to destroy America as we know it. They all want the United States to retreat in the war on terror, and they all want to make over the United States into a marxist/socialist/collective nation Obama’s own core ideology/theology, coincide with these people. This says all you need to know about Obama.. You can and should judge a man by the company he keeps.
Maybe this explains Obama hands were over his crotch instead of saluting the flag/anthem and refusing to wear the flag pin- claiming to do so was ‘false patriotism’


27 posted on 06/03/2008 3:26:13 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

Great list and rant!


28 posted on 06/03/2008 10:37:41 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik

Thank you Nit!!


29 posted on 06/03/2008 10:43:07 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

Obama’s friends list PING.


30 posted on 06/04/2008 11:42:39 AM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG; devolve

OK, I’ll give your ping a bump, lol.


31 posted on 06/04/2008 7:00:56 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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