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Chattanooga: Deportations rise with tighter enforcement
Chattanooga Times Free Press ^ | June 3, 2008 | Perla Treviso

Posted on 06/03/2008 10:34:11 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana

The deportation of illegal immigrants is on the rise, according to immigration officials who attribute the record numbers to increased enforcement.

Deportations in the first five and a half months of fiscal year 2008 were higher than in all of 2001, according to U.S. Immigration and Custom Enforcement figures. In all of 2001, 116,202 immigrants were deported. To date in 2008, 119,429 immigrants have been ordered to return home, records show.

Scott Sutterfield, assistant field office director in the Office of Detention and Removal in New Orleans, said that over the last several years immigration officials have redoubled their efforts to detain and deport illegal immigrants.

He credited “fugitive operations teams” and a program that cross-designates state and local officers to enforce immigration laws for the increased number of deportations.

For many immigrants, the deportation threat of coming to the United States is worth the risk, said one 42-year-old native of Honduras who works in the Chattanooga area.

“It is hard to make that decision, but sometimes one risks all for necessity in order to help support our families back home,” said Abel, who asked to be identified only by his last name since his wife is among 100 Pilgrim’s Pride workers detained on April 16. She is awaiting a deportation hearing.

Abel left two younger sisters and his mother in Honduras eight years ago to find work in the United States. Here, as in many Latin American countries, money is everything, he said.

“If you are poor, no one is going to help you get the visa to come to the United States. That’s for those who have money who can afford to pay the bribes,” he said.

But increased immigration enforcement has created anxiety in the Hispanic community.

“You leave for work in the morning not knowing if you are going to come back,” Abel said.

Those who support a more secure border and stricter enforcement of current immigration laws argue that the number of deportations remains small compared to the number of undocumented immigrants in the United States, estimated at 12 million.

“None of the illegal aliens in the United States have any right to be here,” said Noella Oberlin, a member of the Cleveland, Tenn.-based Tennessee Federation for Immigration Reform and Enforcement and an immigrant from New Zealand. “They should go back to their country and apply to come here legally.”

The majority of immigrants deported nationwide are from Mexico, followed by Honduras and Guatemala, federal figures show. The majority of Hispanic immigrants in Chattanooga are from Guatemala, followed by Mexico, according to organizations that work with the community.

In Dalton, Ga., the majority are from Mexico, followed by Guatemala.

The Guatemalan Consulate in Atlanta, which serves Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina, reports the number of Guatemalans deported has more than doubled during the last two years.

From January to April 2008, there were 575 deportations, almost twice as many as in 2006. Last year, on average, there were 100 people returning to Guatemala on a daily basis, said Beatriz Illescas, consul general of the Guatemalan Consulate.

Ms. Illescas said the Guatemalan government and other nonprofit organizations are trying to develop programs to help those who have to leave the country and return home with nothing.

“For a good percentage of Guatemalans, coming to the United States means ending their life in Guatemala,” she said. “It means total loss of everything they have. It means not having a place to go back to.”

Abel said he had to borrow $4,000 from friends in Atlanta to make the journey.

“You could never dream of having that amount of money in Honduras,” he said. “The minimum wage is about $3 a day, mainly for agricultural work.”

Abel said he is prepared should he be forced to return home. He said he has worked hard and saved money.

“I knew I was only coming here to work,” he said. “That’s all I have been doing. At least I wouldn’t go back empty-handed.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; enforcement; fightingback; ice; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; tennessee
Ms. Illescas said the Guatemalan government and other nonprofit organizations are trying to develop programs to help those who have to leave the country and return home with nothing.

“For a good percentage of Guatemalans, coming to the United States means ending their life in Guatemala,” she said. “It means total loss of everything they have. It means not having a place to go back to.” ________________________________________________

Now, this is a strange comment...

I thought they all came here because there was nothing back home ?????????

1 posted on 06/03/2008 10:34:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; 3AngelaD; alice_in_bubbaland; aligncare; AliVeritas; ...

ICE is Nice PING

TWICE X TWICE X TWICE as Nice would be Nicer

If they sent 800,000+ home every day...

all the illegal aliens would be gone by July 4...

Independence Day..


2 posted on 06/03/2008 10:41:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


3 posted on 06/03/2008 10:53:16 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Well I’m glad it worked that time...

Had problems posting this thread..

And then i couldnt “see” it...


4 posted on 06/03/2008 10:57:44 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Abel said he had to borrow $4,000 from friends in Atlanta to make the journey. “You could never dream of having that amount of money in Honduras,” he said. “The minimum wage is about $3 a day, mainly for agricultural work.” Abel said he is prepared should he be forced to return home. He said he has worked hard and saved money. “I knew I was only coming here to work,” he said. “That’s all I have been doing. At least I wouldn’t go back empty-handed.”

(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

How many stolen identities does he have? How many SS nos? How many US govt benefits checks is he collecting?

How much is he sending back to Honduras from his low pay entry-level job? How much of a cut are Honduran officials taking out of this avalanche of US dollars?

Western Union and other money-transfer agencies need to be scrutinized to determine if they are engaged in laundering stolen monies to the Third World-----and whether they are fraudulently depositing transfer monies into bank accounts of Third World government officials.

5 posted on 06/03/2008 11:02:12 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Tennessee Nana

[... If they sent 8K home every day,
ALL illegals would be gone by July 4th!
Independence Day...]

Nothing fuzzy about that kind of math!


6 posted on 06/03/2008 11:09:47 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Tennessee Nana
“I knew I was only coming here to work,” he said. “That’s all I have been doing.

So, with this mindset, even if he was granted amnesty, the chances are he wouldn't assimilate and become an American - he'd just keep raking in the bucks and send a few back home.

7 posted on 06/03/2008 11:25:51 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Tennessee Nana

bump


8 posted on 06/03/2008 11:27:57 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Tennessee Nana
The deportation of illegal immigrants is on the rise, according to immigration officials who attribute the record numbers to increased enforcement.

Well, DUH! Gee, d'ya think there's any cause and effect going on here? That's about as intelligent as the Slimes noting that crime is decreasing although there's an increasing number of criminals in prison. I wonder if any study has ever ascertained the average IQ of reporters?

9 posted on 06/03/2008 11:29:34 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.


10 posted on 06/03/2008 11:42:44 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"To date in 2008, 119,429 immigrants have been ordered to return home, records show."

Glad to see the effort on the part of the ICE, but the 'drop in a bucket' analogy seems to fit.

I'll be happier when they build the fence. They'd be starting soon if it weren't for that corrupt witch Kay Bailey-Hutchison.
11 posted on 06/03/2008 11:45:54 AM PDT by CowboyJay (There's always 2012...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Strict enforcement of existing immigration laws is proving to work. Continuing to increase the pressure on illegals will send a message to those here to leave and spread the word to those in other countries considering becoming illegals to stay home.


12 posted on 06/03/2008 11:57:10 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
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13 posted on 06/03/2008 12:33:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Do you attribute this....enforcement/round-up of illegals (or at least a few) to ..

..Awareness & public outcry to enforce the law....or..

.. Political pandering in an election year?....a bit of attention grabbing headlines to satisfy the citizens.

14 posted on 06/04/2008 4:58:00 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: CowboyJay

......that corrupt witch Kay Bailey-Hutchison......

What evidence do you have of corruption? She is a good Republican.

.


15 posted on 06/04/2008 5:08:39 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Tennessee Nana

They need to do some enforcing here at the apartment complex that I’m staying. The guys re-decking the balconies don’t seem to speak a word of English. Cheap labor, I guess.


16 posted on 06/04/2008 5:10:54 AM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Never mind...it was a silly question.

I know the answer.

17 posted on 06/04/2008 5:31:27 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: bert
Yeah, she is a good Republican RINO...
..hasn't met an illegal she doesn't like.
18 posted on 06/04/2008 5:33:16 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Guenevere

Your post suffers from RINO creep. The definition of RINO has beeen expanded beyond credible reason. A Rino has been redefined to include any one who doesn’t meet a straight jacketed, narrow agenda.

Hagel is a RINO, Hutcheson is not.


19 posted on 06/04/2008 6:19:08 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: bert

IMO she is.


20 posted on 06/04/2008 7:29:50 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: bert
She is a good Republican.

You mean other than axing funding for the fence that was approved by congress...

...in the middle of the night...

...and trying to sweep it under the rug?

mmmkay
21 posted on 06/04/2008 9:24:52 AM PDT by CowboyJay (There's always 2012...)
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