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Zimbabwe Crisis: White Farming Couple Beaten And Kicked Off Land
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-4-2008 | David Blair

Posted on 06/03/2008 6:14:59 PM PDT by blam

Zimbabwe crisis: White farming couple beaten and kicked off land

By David Blair
Last Updated: 2:06AM BST 04/06/2008

A white farming couple was assaulted, whipped and shot at after they were given two minutes to leave their property in Zimbabwe.

William Rogers and his wife, Annette, were threatened by three Robert Mugabe supporters, who told them: "We are like hungry lions."

Dozens of Zimbabwe's last white farmers have suffered similar ordeals since Mr Mugabe lost the presidential election's first round in March. Scores of black opposition supporters have been murdered and thousands beaten, abducted or tortured.

After defying the two-minute warning to leave, Mr and Mrs Rogers took refuge in their home on Chigwell farm. A gang of a dozen men soon gathered outside.

"They started smashing windows and the front door was smashed open," said Mr Rogers. One of the men produced a gun and opened fire. "He fired a shot directly at us which went just over my head and close to my wife's head," said Mr Rogers. "He obviously intended to kill us."

The couple retreated upstairs and listened, terrified, as the gang began heaping together a fire in their living room, using the wreckage of their back door.

"We thought we would be burnt alive, which is when I said that we would come out," said Mr Rogers. He grabbed a shotgun and led his wife downstairs. The ringleader ordered him to hand over his weapon. Men seized Mrs Rogers and grabbed her by the throat.

Then the mob set upon both the farmer and his wife with sticks and pipes. "They dragged my wife outside and they were trying to strangle her," said Mr Rogers. "She managed to bite the hand of the man who was grabbing her round the throat.

"He started to beat her. At one time, there were at least four men beating and kicking her."

Bruised and bleeding, the couple were tied up and hurled into the back of a pickup. Finally, at least five hours after the first calls for help, the local police responded. Four armed officers freed Mr and Mrs Rogers, who were taken to Harare, the capital, for emergency treatment. They are now recovering.


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KEYWORDS: africa; crisis; farm; mugabe; white; zimbabwe
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1 posted on 06/03/2008 6:14:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

these people should be taken into our country. they are refugees. oh, wait they are white and whites are racist, nevermind they were beaten up by black zimbabweians.


2 posted on 06/03/2008 6:17:03 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: blam

And Mugabe wonders why Zimbabweans are starving...


3 posted on 06/03/2008 6:17:42 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (History is a story written by the finger of God. — C.S. Lewis)
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To: blam

did she lose an eye?


4 posted on 06/03/2008 6:17:44 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: blam

they are lucky to be alive - there is a real genocide of whites in Africa - where is the NY Times?


5 posted on 06/03/2008 6:18:17 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: blam

Read any “college” book. White people shouldn’t be allowed on the planet. The majority of white college kids all agree.


6 posted on 06/03/2008 6:20:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: blam

I know it’s their land, but I’m surprised they were still there. I guess the Zimbabweans aren’t too efficient in their ethnic cleansing.

They can come to our country. Think of all the preferential treatment they will be entitled to as “African-Americans!”


7 posted on 06/03/2008 6:20:57 PM PDT by henkster (Obama '08: A 3rd world state, here & now!)
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To: television is just wrong

I await the mass demonstrations by the left on this, I await the UN on this, I await them likes of sharpton and jackson on this.

I await our Govt to say that those who are in fear of their life can come here especially as we need those who can work and will work

O silly me they are white, nothing will be done and the racist regime goes on , while the libs and the likes of jackson go on supporting the racist Obama and his wife.

I know there were demonstrations even ugly ones by some when south africa was racist yet we have another country not that far away from there who is racist and those who had demonstrated will not about this

se;ective outrage once again by those hypocrites


8 posted on 06/03/2008 6:21:38 PM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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To: blam

yeah, let us incompetent, stupid assho*es have this beautiful farm. It’ll be worthless in two months.


9 posted on 06/03/2008 6:21:45 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: manc

exactly.


10 posted on 06/03/2008 6:23:40 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: blam
I would bet that after the beating, the "Mugabe supporters" found the seed used for the crops and ate it, thus assuring that there would be no crops.

There is a reason Africa is called the "dark continent"..

..ignorant Zim savages....

11 posted on 06/03/2008 6:27:16 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: blam; Cincinatus' Wife; sarcasm; happygrl; Byron_the_Aussie; robnoel; GeronL; ZOOKER; Bonaparte; ...

This is npt a crisis. That implies that there is a tippong point and the situation is at or near it. These invasions started in 2000. The current crop of invasiona are just some loose ends being tidied up


12 posted on 06/03/2008 6:28:58 PM PDT by Clive
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To: blam
William Rogers and his wife, Annette, were threatened by three Robert Mugabe supporters, who told them: "We are like hungry lions."

No, you are like retarded hyenas. Only brave in packs and willing to foul your food source because you're too stupid to realize the end result.

Starve and die, once Rhodesia is depopulated, maybe something worthwhile can rise from the ashes once the white farmers reclaim their stolen land.
13 posted on 06/03/2008 6:30:31 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: television is just wrong
"these people should be taken into our country"

These people should recruit assistance and exact revenge.


14 posted on 06/03/2008 6:30:55 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: blam
I've said it before and I’ll say it again; Africa was better off under colonization then it has ever been since.
15 posted on 06/03/2008 6:34:33 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: manc
I await the mass demonstrations by the left on this

Mugabe is the left's man, they helped put him in power.

16 posted on 06/03/2008 6:37:33 PM PDT by RJL
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To: blam

Why does any white person remain in Zimbabwe? Robert Mugabe has been attacking whites for years now. Any white in Zimbabwe has to have see the writing on the wall by now!


17 posted on 06/03/2008 6:37:44 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: blam

Maybe Peter Gabriel, Bruce Springsteen & Little Steven will hold a benefit concert for them.


18 posted on 06/03/2008 6:38:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: yldstrk

“yeah, let us incompetent, stupid assho*es have this beautiful farm. It’ll be worthless in two months.”


I would burn everything of value to the ground first.


19 posted on 06/03/2008 6:38:12 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

Agreed, let them rot in hell, but theses sons of Africa are no different than any inner hoop dreams and rap mogul dreamers.Grimacing and crotch grabbing ,gang sign flashing,and pants pulling on the street corners.Attacking in gangs and robbing others because they have more than them.
China will soon be their new masters and the horror that was Rwanda will look like minor blip compared to the ecological, agricultural, and genocidal apocalypse that the Manchu will release.


20 posted on 06/03/2008 6:53:57 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: blam

They probably feel they have the right to ‘take back their land’ as this was pretty much how their ancestors lost their native lands to the Dutch and English settlers. (and no, I’m not saying it’s right).


21 posted on 06/03/2008 6:59:08 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: blam

I feel sorry for these folks, but the writing was on the wall years ago. They should have packed up and left a long time ago. I know it’s hard to abandon a home you love, but an erupting volcano doesn’t care — neither does a mob.

There is no hope for Zimbabwe. Outside massive foreign intervention (yes, I mean colonialism) its slide back into the stone age is inevitable.

South Africa won’t be far behind.


22 posted on 06/03/2008 7:00:30 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: kublia khan
I've said it before and I’ll say it again; Africa was better off under colonization then it has ever been since.

23 posted on 06/03/2008 7:03:14 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: kublia khan
I've said it before and I’ll say it again; Africa was better off under colonization then it has ever been since.

Wonder why my addition didn't shoe up? Anyways, I agree with you, it was better under colonial rule. Then again, if I were them, I'd rather stand and fight, preferably with an M1 Garand, but on the other hand, they should have gotten out. I know it would be hard to leave your home but Mugabe and his mob are like giant ants, sometimes it is better to leave for safer places. Anyways, without those farmers, they will starve. Let them starve then and then we can move back into Africa.
24 posted on 06/03/2008 7:07:56 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: television is just wrong
"these people should be taken into our country. they are refugees. oh, wait they are white and whites are racist, nevermind they were beaten up by black zimbabweians."

There's also the fact that they are idiots.

25 posted on 06/03/2008 7:10:03 PM PDT by norton
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To: blam
"We are like hungry lions."

Yeah--and soon they'll be a lot hungrier, as internal production of food continues to plummet.

26 posted on 06/03/2008 7:11:08 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: blam
The ringleader ordered him to hand over his weapon.

He should have handed it over very quickly, one shotgun shell at a time. It took the local police five hours to arrive, the farmers could have been over the border in that time.
27 posted on 06/03/2008 7:29:56 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
White people shouldn’t be allowed on the planet.

If you think this through, that might actually be a good idea. May Bert Rutan perfect the technology that will allow our children to escape.

28 posted on 06/03/2008 7:33:02 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: blam

are we seeing America in the second Obama term?


29 posted on 06/03/2008 8:04:54 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Ronin; blam
I feel sorry for these folks, but the writing was on the wall years ago. They should have packed up and left a long time ago.

Just like the Jews should have left Germany?

Where would they go?

What would they live on?

Would the U.S.A. have let them in?

30 posted on 06/03/2008 8:05:39 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: norton

so are most of the other refugees we take into the country from like lets say Islamic Somalia?


31 posted on 06/03/2008 8:06:48 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Ronin; blam
I feel sorry for these folks, but the writing was on the wall years ago. They should have packed up and left a long time ago.

The way America is heading, someday people may be saying that about you and me.

32 posted on 06/03/2008 8:06:55 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: television is just wrong
Sorry,
But someone who escaped Somalia and got here may be a cultural basket case but one that's a whole lot more clever than a white farmer still hanging out in Zimbabwe waiting for something good to happen.
33 posted on 06/03/2008 8:43:01 PM PDT by norton
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To: blam
All the Ivy League colleges should be proud of this picture. They spearheaded the "divestiture" movement that caused the governments of Rhodesia and South Africa to fall.

Why are they not taking the credit they deserve for their hand in what has happened in these countries?

34 posted on 06/03/2008 8:48:47 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: norton
But someone who escaped Somalia and got here may be a cultural basket case but one that's a whole lot more clever than a white farmer still hanging out in Zimbabwe waiting for something good to happen.

One day they'll be saying the same thing about me here in California.

But hell, I was born here.

35 posted on 06/03/2008 9:01:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kublia khan

“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Africa was better off under colonization then it has ever been since.”

Very true. Some other parts of the world as well.


36 posted on 06/03/2008 9:10:04 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: ktscarlett66

They didn’t.

For the most part, Europeans in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) took untilled virgin lands, setting aside native tribal lands as traditional communal property not subject to sale and transfer.

The problem was that -

1. The native population outgrew the carrying capacity of their communal lands, and they desired expansion into what were now white-owned rich agricultural properties.

2. The white settlers brought in farm workers from outside the local tribal society, many even from South Africa and Mozambique. A lot of these people are now a big part of the black Zimbabwean refugees in SA, Botswana, etc.


37 posted on 06/03/2008 9:17:09 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Read any “college” book. White people shouldn’t be allowed on the planet. The majority of white college kids all agree.

You're right. I don't know how liberals have programmed in self-loathing to such a degree but they have managed not only erase any bit of racial pride in white kids but also erased any feeling of human pride.

39 posted on 06/03/2008 11:22:14 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: blam

Does Mugabe have a policy of genocide towards white Zimbabweans?


40 posted on 06/04/2008 8:33:20 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: henkster

During the transition from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, many of the white citizens fled the country, but the farmers stayed and tried to “make a go of it”. It worked for about 20 years until Mugabe needed a scapegoat for political purposes, then he started his “land reform” (forced sales and/or confiscations of white-owned farms) back about 2001.

It has been downhill, of course, since then. Before Mugabe’s communistic rampage, Zimbabwe was able to feed itself and sell food to surrounding nations.

One could perhaps make an argument that the land was “taken” from natives by an earlier generation of white settlers, but as we know, two wrongs do not make a right.

Besides, when a nation has a successful farming system, it is national suicide to destroy it. But then Marxists, such as Mugabe, were never long on common sense.


41 posted on 06/05/2008 4:15:26 AM PDT by on-the-rocks2
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To: on-the-rocks2; All
<< It has been downhill, of course, since then. >>

Exactly! I spent a month there during 1981 in Bulawayo about 6 months after Mugabe took over. Nice infrastructure thanks to the former Rhodesia. But we were not accustomed to this on February 11: two tribal factions within the Zimbabwe army got into a dispute. Net result: 300 dead citizens caught in the crossfire over the next week. Hours after we turned off an intersection, one army faction ambushed a armored convoy killing 60.

Returned to Bulawayo in 2000. What a change! On flying in, I was pulled out of the customs line. As a U.S. citizen, they required a special entry fee - $10 (US) as I recall.

Infrastructure had gone down the tube. Gas lines ala our 70's. Yet later while traveling in neighboring Botswana, there was gas aplenty -- modern well stocked supermarkets.

Economically, Zimbabwe has shot themselves in the foot. Yet, Jacques Diouf, Director General of the U.N.'s Food and Agriculture Organization, denounces the West about Africa's problems:

"No one understands… how over-consumption by obese people in the [Western] world costs $20 billion each year."

42 posted on 06/05/2008 11:59:32 AM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (I'm Republican because I don't qualify for welfare)
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To: blam; Travis McGee
Behold our future.

And it isn't because the farmers were white and the attackers were black. This has happened before, in places where both sides were the same ethnic group.

What you have is the results of liberalism allowed to run free. This is our future, sadly, and there is no where else to go.

So what would you do in their situation? What will you do when you see cries of property/wealth redistribution at the point of the sword? And I don't mean the taxes we have now, but in situations like this.

43 posted on 06/06/2008 7:08:41 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
"So what would you do in their situation?"

I may have used the shotgun and taken some of them with me before they killed me.

44 posted on 06/06/2008 7:16:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: kublia khan

Ina material sense,perhaps.Though colonial rule was not implememted to benefit the Africans,but the European colonizers.
The illogic of your thinking to me-and with all respect-is that colonial society was based on what I think is a liberal rationale-”Oh,those poor colored people.They are so helpless and incapable.The need the white man to provide for them”
To me that attitude is similiar to white libs in THIS country.Stay on the Dem plantation and we will take care of you.
Doesn’t work here and it really didn’t work too well for Africans.


45 posted on 06/06/2008 7:16:09 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: redgolum

If the USA gets to this stage, there will be no place else on earth to go for refuge. We will have to fight here, or face extinction.


46 posted on 06/06/2008 8:26:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Winston Churchill commented on that concept.


47 posted on 06/06/2008 9:50:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Reagan did... “A Time for Choosing”.


48 posted on 06/06/2008 10:41:56 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Riverman94610
Doesn’t work here and it really didn’t work too well for Africans.

You'd be hard-pressed to say the residents of "Zimbabwe" are better off than were the residents of "Rhodesia".

I'll concede colonies of other-then-England (Germany and Belgium, for example) did not fare so well.

49 posted on 06/07/2008 7:09:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Riverman94610
You certainly raise some valid points. Sadly I believe the problem is not with the people but with their political leadership. Under apartheid the citizens were horribly oppressed much like the former USSR, but that oppression lasted for so many generations that there is no collective memory of living as an independent self supporting entity either collectively or individually. The present post apartheid leadership has exploited this lack of training in self sufficiency to continue to subjugate them and with no experience in governance they have exacerbated any economic or natural calamity by ten times.
50 posted on 06/07/2008 5:27:30 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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