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Not So Fast, Barack
IBD ^ | June 3, 2008

Posted on 06/03/2008 6:22:45 PM PDT by Kaslin

Decision '08: Barack Obama is changing churches in hopes of changing the subject long enough to slip into the White House. But it won't change what he believes. Who'll pin him down?


A careful reading of the transcript of Obama's press conference over the weekend reveals that he neither denounced his church nor permanently quit it. He twice left open the door to rejoining Trinity United Church of Christ after the election.

He said he and his wife merely decided "it was going to be very difficult to continue our membership there so long as I was running for president."

Typical of the coverage of this candidate, nobody in the press followed up with tough questions. Nobody bothered to parse his words.

They just lobbed more softballs. "Do you feel like your faith and your church come under fire, more rapid fire, than other candidates in this presidential election?" asked one reporter. "How do you feel about that?"

We already know how Obama feels. He's frosted that this paper and others outside the mainstream liberal media exposed his militantly Afro-centric, anti-American church and preacher.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; elections; obama; trinityucc; tucc
Like a typical liberal he thinks he can pull the wool over everyone
1 posted on 06/03/2008 6:22:45 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
changing churches in hopes of changing

Get a new mantra, already...

2 posted on 06/03/2008 6:25:06 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kaslin; Das Outsider

More BARAKIANITY!


3 posted on 06/03/2008 6:25:12 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Kaslin

Can you spell “worm?”


4 posted on 06/03/2008 6:25:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Kaslin; potlatch; devolve; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; LucyT; Ernest_at_the_Beach

5 posted on 06/03/2008 6:27:15 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t recall anyone asking him to leave his church.


6 posted on 06/03/2008 6:28:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Kaslin

Profiles in Courage, Ch. 9


7 posted on 06/03/2008 6:36:12 PM PDT by patch789
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To: Jo Nuvark
"We don't want to have to answer for everything that's stated in a church," Obama complained.

You know, Magic One, some church bodies have confirmation vows that include acceptance of that denomination or synod's published confessions in toto

If the pastors are using their pulpit for the purpose of promulgating teachings that are in conflict with church doctrine, why stay and support it? If that is in the official doctrine, is this so-called church really much of a Christian Church to begin with?


8 posted on 06/03/2008 6:36:32 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Jo Nuvark

Shall we read from the Prosangelia of B’rok ‘Bomma?


9 posted on 06/03/2008 6:59:47 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider; Kaslin; potlatch; devolve; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; LucyT; ...

BARAKIANITY and Trinity United Church of Christ...

From their website: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

United Church of Christ Statement of Faith in the form of a doxology

We believe in you, O God, Eternal Spirit, God of our Savior Jesus Christ and our God, and to your deeds we testify: You call the worlds into being, create persons in your own image,and set before each one the ways of life and death. You seek in holy love to save all people from aimlessness and sin. You judge people and nations by your righteous will declared through prophets and apostles. In Jesus Christ, the man of Nazareth, our crucified and risen Savior, you have come to us and shared our common lot, conquering sin and death and reconciling the world to yourself. You bestow upon us your Holy Spirit, creating and renewing the church of Jesus Christ, binding in covenant faithful people of all ages, tongues, and races. You call us into your church to accept the cost and joy of discipleship, to be your servants in the service of others, to proclaim the gospel to all the world and resist the powers of evil,to share in Christ’s baptism and eat at his table, to join him in his passion and victory. You promise to all who trust you forgiveness of sins and fullness of grace, courage in the struggle for justice and peace, your presence in trial and rejoicing, and eternal life in your realm which has no end. Blessing and honor, glory and power be unto you. Amen.

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

***************************

Do not return evil with evil, or insults with insults.
Instead, pray for blessing. You were called in order to
inherit blessing..., (First Peter 3:9)

These people appear to hate Americans who are pigment
challenged. They deftly play the race / slavery card,
and yet it was not they who were persecuted, but rather
their ancestors.

Some from TUCC are not known by their love (as Christians
are to be known), but rather they are known as promoters
of vengence. To what profit?


10 posted on 06/03/2008 7:05:45 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Das Outsider

[... Shall we read from the Prosangelia of B’rok ‘Bomma? ...]

Oh yes... please do!


11 posted on 06/03/2008 7:06:47 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
From the book of Pusillanimity, chapter 6, verses 14-19:

At that time, B'rok 'Bomma was confronted by a scoffer who asked, 'B'rok 'Bomma, you say there may or may not be a God, and that Heaven is like your daughter. Tell us, is there life after death?'

To this, B'rok 'Bamma replied, 'In my kingdom, there will be no death, but everlasting health care. Trust in the Government, as you have trusted in me.'

Many in the crowd swooned.

12 posted on 06/03/2008 7:21:40 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Kaslin

“so long as I was running...”

We need to pay attention to is, was, shall be, to be, etc. again.


13 posted on 06/03/2008 7:30:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Das Outsider

[... ‘In my kingdom, there will be no death, but
everlasting health care. Trust in the Government,
as you have trusted in me.’ ...]

Your best BOSPEL yet!

Barak Obama (BO) + Go(spel) = BOSPEL


14 posted on 06/03/2008 7:30:18 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Barak Obama (BO) + Go(spel) = BOSPEL

A nice portmanteau, Jo!

I went with 'prosangelia' because what B'rok 'Bomma is offering is not 'evangelion.'
15 posted on 06/03/2008 7:35:12 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Kaslin

sadly, he can, at least over 1/2 the country (sheep).


16 posted on 06/03/2008 7:38:32 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: Das Outsider

Portmanteau???
I just learned a new word.
Thank you Mr. Wordsmith.


17 posted on 06/03/2008 7:39:15 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Portmanteau??? I just learned a new word.

We use them all the time, but few know what they're called.
18 posted on 06/03/2008 7:47:58 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Jo Nuvark
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA...

Oh, man...the gift that keeps on giving.

19 posted on 06/03/2008 7:49:29 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
While we're on the subject of the Magic One (much props to his name), I have to say that I hope he picks John Edwards as his VP. It would certainly bolster his Elmer Gantry cred. They could work together in a sort of tag-team Hour of Power.


20 posted on 06/03/2008 7:56:46 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: gogeo

DIASPORA...

Dr. Walter Williams makes the point that Black
Americans enjoy a higher standard of living and
greater opportunities than any other blacks in
the world.

As to Diaspora, it is interesting that just as a
cell grows by division, so does the church. Wherever
agents for Jesus Christ are found, there is blessing.

Whatever kind of evanglism FUCC is spreading does
not bless. Some cells are cancerous.


21 posted on 06/03/2008 8:12:39 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Das Outsider

Oops! That should be TUCC, NOT FUCC. Sorry. My bad.


22 posted on 06/03/2008 8:15:43 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Kaslin

He’s even willing to throw his spiritual community under the bus for political expediency.

But he’ll be back there within a year — as soon as he thinks no one is looking.


23 posted on 06/03/2008 8:16:47 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Kaslin

He’s even willing to throw his spiritual community under the bus for political expediency.

But he’ll be back there within a year — as soon as he thinks no one is looking.


24 posted on 06/03/2008 8:16:47 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Jo Nuvark

“Bospel.”

Darn good one, Jo!


25 posted on 06/03/2008 8:17:45 PM PDT by Birmingham Rain
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To: Birmingham Rain

Oh thank you darlin’. How are you sweetie?
Haven’t heard from you in a while.


26 posted on 06/03/2008 8:22:40 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: devolve; Jo Nuvark; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; Kaslin
He believes he is the chosen one, and today he is - by the democrats!

I saw someone post today that NOW they guess they will HAVE to vote for McCain. I think others will follow that lead to defeat Obama. Like McCain or not, we have to defeat Obama.

As to the church, I read from a statement of theirs that they have 'many muslim members' and that if you attend two of their 'meetings' in a row, you can "walk the aisle".....
If you can get past the black panthers, lol.


27 posted on 06/03/2008 8:26:56 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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28 posted on 06/03/2008 8:34:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: potlatch; Das Outsider; Birmingham Rain

Obama is NOT the Quisats Hatterat.
He is simply electable. Makes me
wonder if the Democratic Party
understand what kind of world they
are handing to their offspring.


29 posted on 06/03/2008 8:34:22 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Kaslin

Since the mainstream media does not care what church he belongs to, he shouldn’t have mentioned anything about his membership there, until after he won the nomination.

Then he could have slyly stated that because he believed he would be living in the White House, he and Michelle had decided to look into the churches in the DC area that will better suit them. :)

He would have sounded like a winner, and he wouldn’t have had to lie about leaving Wright’s church.


30 posted on 06/03/2008 8:37:54 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Jo Nuvark; devolve
Makes me wonder if the Democratic Party understand what kind of world they are handing to their offspring.

I have wondered a thousand times WHY they would want their children and grandchildren to live in a communistic society, it boggles the mind. But their mindset must think it's a good thing!

Now I wonder if they possibly want their families to be wearing burkas in the future.....

31 posted on 06/03/2008 8:40:32 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch; Das Outsider; Birmingham Rain

Fortunately, liberals are aborting themselves out of existence.
This way they avoid having to think about a future for their
children.

Out of sight ... out of their minds.


32 posted on 06/03/2008 8:45:01 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: potlatch

.

Michigan is going Red State now

Virginia is more liberal now - demanding government spending on mass transprtation sytems

Raising taxes of seniors, blue-collar working people - there is the wedge issue - along with “Clinging to their guns and religion!”

The NRA, US active, reserve, VETS, Vets families -

Early voting for our active duty troops abroad must be demanded

We have some states now voting over several days -

Yet in the military - ballots are sent abroad late - troops do not get access to their ballots - never get back in time - are not counted

Our officers must demand this here and abroad

Disenfranchisement of of military will be on the agena again for democrats

-

Those O’Bummer audios must be trumpted over and over and over

-

Love, your Jim


33 posted on 06/03/2008 8:53:55 PM PDT by devolve (- Men - I want you all to relax! Let the 101st Airborne try again in 4 years! - Gen. George Patton)
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To: PhilDragoo

More like...Dalai Obama?!...


34 posted on 06/03/2008 9:02:20 PM PDT by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2025607/posts?page=28#28


35 posted on 06/03/2008 9:30:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Kaslin

It won’t change the Larry Sinclair story
nor
the Ms Obama “Whitey” tape


36 posted on 06/03/2008 9:33:00 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: PhilDragoo; Fiddlstix; y'all

Keep it up, “Milhous” !!!!

Great photo, Phil!


37 posted on 06/03/2008 11:01:50 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO makes me wanna reach across the aisle, too. And SLAP some sense into the fools !!)
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To: potlatch

Nice Pic


38 posted on 06/03/2008 11:21:04 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC; devolve

Thank you, I enjoyed making it. It’s eerie...


39 posted on 06/03/2008 11:28:36 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: TomasUSMC

bttt


40 posted on 06/03/2008 11:31:26 PM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?") <---aacckk! it's not!)
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To: Kaslin

Mark.


41 posted on 06/03/2008 11:49:03 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: potlatch

.

Good post potlatch


42 posted on 06/04/2008 1:02:34 AM PDT by devolve (- Men - I want you all to relax! Let the 101st Airborne try again in 4 years! - Gen. George Patton)
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To: Kaslin

Well, Rev. Wright did say that he was a politician.


43 posted on 06/04/2008 3:42:13 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Das Outsider; Jo Nuvark

BARACKIANITY PING!


44 posted on 06/17/2008 6:04:07 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
BARACKIANITY PING!

Has the Magic One (much props to his name) spoken? Were you able to catch a glimpse of his reflective glory?

I believe a reading from the book of Mediocrity is in order.
45 posted on 06/17/2008 6:20:09 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Jo Nuvark
As it says in the book of Mediocrity, verses 3:1-3, from the Politically Correct Gender Neutral Barackianity for Dummies Version (PCGNBDV):

And then the Magic One told them a story. He said, "Once there were two domestic assistants. One was given ten talents for his/her/its labor, and the other was given twenty talents for his/her/its labor. The former domestic assistant asked, 'Why have I received less than my co-worker?' So I replied, it doesn't matter: hand it over. Thank you, come again!"
46 posted on 06/17/2008 6:32:00 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider

Hey sweetie ... over HERE!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2032551/posts?page=9


47 posted on 06/17/2008 6:38:16 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Freudian slip?


48 posted on 06/17/2008 7:35:46 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: darkangel82

A freudian slip would be trimmed with Austrian lace. / sarc

I’m immensely ashamed of that post and apologize for any
offense it has caused you. I simply miss typed and didn’t
recognize the error until it was too late.


49 posted on 06/17/2008 8:04:48 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

LOL@Austrian lace. I wasn’t offended, just thought you were saying a naughty word.


50 posted on 06/17/2008 8:20:09 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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