Skip to comments.You're Ahead, Charlie Brown (Dem leads McClintock)
Posted on 06/04/2008 1:37:15 AM PDT by Impy
As former Rep. Doug Ose and State Senator Tom McClintock battle it out for the Republican nomination to succeed retiring Rep. John Doolittle today, a new survey for their soon-to-be Democratic rival shows what is likely to be a second difficult race for anyone campaigning in the suburban Sacramento district.
The poll, conducted by Benenson Strategy Group for former Air Force pilot Charlie Brown's campaign, was taken 5/14-15 and surveyed 400 likely general election voters for a margin of error of +/- 5%. Brown, Ose and McClintock were tested.
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McClintock beat the RINO Ose in the primary.
This is an internal poll by the rat's campaign.
Losing this one would be UNACCEPTABLE.
Expect ‘Chuck’ to play the carpetbagger card on McClintock. We saw that regional nonsense work in the MS special.
Rodent poll, take it with a grain of salt. Heavily Republican district, with a revered nominee. He'll win by at least 10% (that is, unless the Wilsonite/Ah-nold RINO scum decide to sandbag him again for the general).
You got it. I have a funny feeling the Wilsonegger gang will work as hard against Tom as Charlie Brown will.
Just makes you sick. I’m disgusted at having to fight liberal scum on two fronts, but the ones in the GOP are ALWAYS worse.
I don’t believe this. Brown lost to Doolittle in 2006 despite Doolittle having the whole Abranoff scandal around his neck and the press exposing how his wife was taking a cut of Doolittle’s campaign fund raising. One worry is Brown had a nice war chest so McClintock needs to raise a lot of money.
2 points down...with a 5-point margin...in the other guy’s internal poll? That’s actually not bad at all.
This indicates McClintock has a good-sized lead. Doesn't mean McClintock should ever be comfortable, as he'll no doubt be outspent yet again, but this is a race he should win with a sizable margin.
As TM pointed out on the local news...
2 years ago both TM and CB were on the ballot in this district.
TM was running for Lt Gov and CB for the 4th Cng Dstr.
TM got roughly 36,000 more votes from within the 4th than did CB.
The 4th knows who TM is and they like him.
Add to that - last night he roughly doubled CBs vote total.
We can’t take it for granted, but with hard work, focus, and some energy this could be a real ‘message’ district for the (R) leadership in D.C.
Tom pointed out at his victory party that even in his losing campaign for state-wide Lt. Governor, he got thousands of more votes in District 4 than Charlie got in his near victory over Doolittle in '06!!!
They'll throw every non-profit, non GovernMental outfit they can find at Tom through Independent Expenditure (IE's) committees, like mad!!! It's actually kinda good that Ose tested Tom and his family in this Primary, because they're REALLY gonna git it in the neck, now!!!
And we wonder what happened to "our leaders"?
JudgeMental fundamental politically motivated religionists make them feel guilty, whether they need to, or not! They feel as comfortable around them as they would with Islamic fundamentalists and even refer to "The Taliban Wing" of the Republican Party! It's even been done right here on FR!!!
Meanwhile, the real mixture of church and state facilitated by the militant EnvironMentalist movement and it's lawmakers and lititgators further the goals of the left to advance taxation, regulation and litigation to suffocate American enterprise and all economic progress in the name of "Saving the (______)!" (you name it)!!!
It seems to me that a candidate named “Charlie Brown” should be running for a district that includes Santa Rosa, CA. Talk about your basic slam-dunk!
Each passing month, more people are identifying less with the GOP. It could be possible to lose the CA seat. Plus, McClintock, like Oberweis, keeps running for something and keeps losing.
In 2008, we will reach the bottom of the barrel. I wonder if we can ever get up. I was shocked that we lost the IL-14 and MS-01. Those losses were inexcusable. Plus, the Dems have a good chance of keeping Buddy Cramer’s seat even with Obama being smacked down in the Heart of Dixie. The only good news is that we have recruited quality chadndites to replace Heather Wilson and Steve Pearce.
McClintock is NOTHING like Oberweis. Oberweis is like *omney, a flip-flopping liberal con man who has used his wealth to try to buy offices and failing. McClintock is probably the single most principled Conservative elected official in the state of California. Because of that, he is HATED by the RINO establishment and has lost in his runs not because of Democrat opposition, but because liberal RINOs have sandbagged him (indeed, going out of their way to do so) every time he ran statewide (one year when he ran when he just barely lost, he was the highest vote-getting Republican in California). This is definitely a top-notch, high quality candidate. The only downside here is that he really should be Governor, not running for Congress.
Through his voting record, McClintock is a conservative. Its just my eyes roll everytime a candidate’s followers tout their guy/gal as the second coming of Reagan and sneer at primary rivals as “liberal RINOs”. For example on Super Tuesday, Romney and Oberweis supporters touted their guys as leaders of the 2nd Reagan Revolution. I found the claims to be laughable. I voted for Huckabee just to piss them off.
Huckster is almost as bad as *omney, though. After Fred dropped out, there was nobody to vote for.
That’s not a poll. That’s Howard Dean’s wishful thinking.
The 4th Congressional District is NOT a “suburban Sacramento district.”
Any fool with a map would know that. That being said, the demographics in Placer and Nevada counties ARE changing.
Charlie Brown has some nice people supporting him. I guess they don’t realize what a moron he really is.
Here’s the Republican vote: 79,535
Here’s the Democrat vote: 48,280
Pubbies split on McClintock 42,713 to Ose 30,753. (As one insider told me, “Ose can spend all the money he wants, and it’s not going to get him anywhere.”)
Now, you tell me what Mr. Brown’s chances really are.
I was called on this poll. Here is how it went.
“We are doing a survey with regard to the California District 4 congressional race between retired Air Force officer Charlie Brown, and Southern California politician Tom McClintock”.
Given the framing of their objective, I asked “Are you an independent polling organization” and they said “yes”.
At this point, I asked if they were being paid by any campaign organization, at which they answered “Yes, we are being paid by the Charlie Brown for Congress campaign”.
And I said “I thought so” and hung up.
There were probably a LOT of people like me who figured out it was a stunt poll and hung up on them.
I hope the polls are wrong.
A more recent poll also shows Brown ahead 43-41.
You may have missed my point.
The poll was clearly a Brown push-poll.
I hung up. How many other McClintock supporters hung up?
Sorry brain f*rt.
I knew it was an internal poll by Brown. I didn’t know it was a push poll. Should have known. Usually they don’t release internal polling numbers.