Posted on 06/04/2008 2:54:18 AM PDT by Ulysse
I did not hear till now about an analysis of OBAMA's stance , created mediatic image and above all his voice and way of speaking.
Probably it has been done somewhere but AS AN EUROPEAN i was struck by the way he speaks like some kind of preachers or populist political leaders reminding us very bad memories. It reminds me some leaders hypnotizing crowds and leading them to real nightmares.
The rythm,the loudness,the tone of his voice beside the repetition of mantras("change","yes we can"...)give a scary impression...
But this it not surprising if he learned from J.WRIGHT
You are not alone.
That should read “You mean, kind of like this”.
I had watched streaming video last night of Obama’s speech and it seems the folks there were like zombies.
He’s the evil of two lessers.
I have had the same thought. Whereas Jesse Jackson uses jingoisms, Obama uses a series of parallel clauses before he makes his point.
He preaches Hope and Change, words w/nebulous definitions in his case, and in this way his listeners fill in the blanks w/their own interpretations of what he means.
This smoke and mirrors technique follows the methods he used as a community organizer.
He is on record as having said that self-interest is what drives people to follow anyone who espouses his own agenda in seeking power.
Are we thinking about a name that “begins with an H...ends with an R?”
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos people (perhaps akin to Greek daiesthai to divide) + agōgos leading, from agein to lead more at tide, agent Date: 1648
1 : a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power
2 : a leader championing the cause of the common people in ancient times dem·a·gogu·ery \-ˌgä-g(ə-)rē\ noun dem·a·gogy \-ˌgä-gē, -ˌgä-jē, -ˌgō-jē\ noun
I agree with you...He’s an orator...but the message is government dominance....You can’t drive your SUV or eat whatever you want...very scarey because it’s aimed at you and me...the hard working middle class.
I had the same reaction last night! I was on the Live thread and Obama was concluding his speech with some very loud, rhythmic passages.
Combined with his body motions, I was reminded of Rev Wright and wondered if others were having the same impression. With that in mind I then noticed the zeal of the crowd and the way the stage was set. It was spooky.
[Are we allowed to say “spooky” when talking about Obama?!]
Si se pueda
the name you are reluctant to use HITLER, it correct
Obama also uses diametrically opposing and incomplete clauses, as well.
Without question, it is purposeful, and it is a proven technique of carnival barkers and hypnotists designed place the pliant "participant" off center, momentarily stunned, so as to more easily make a "suggestion."
He is constantly evoking "State" in the willing, just as Adolf Hitler did and just as dangerously egoistic.
What's good is what's good for Obama, basically.
I doubt winning the presidential nomination of the Democrats has humbled this guy.
What do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feLqz1udhtY
“...Obama was concluding his speech with some very loud, rhythmic passages.
Combined with his body motions,... “
There IS something very odd about Hussein’s speech patterns. There are odd pauses, a strange cadence, and exaggerated accenting of syllables. It creeps me to listen to him.
Watch a few videos of Malcomb X, and particularly his interviews, and you will see the model for Obama’s rhetorical style. For all their differences, both men were superficially educated, and readily absorbed notions from crank mentors.
Both believed in “unity.” Malcolm thought that racial solidarity of the blacks was key, and later in his career he wished to enlarge this to a unity of all non-white people, thinking that colored folks would then be a majority, and all would be put right.
We have all heard Obama speak of unity, but there is no unity unless enforced. Obama likes to dismiss objections as “distractions.”
If unity were a solution to the problems of black Americans, their problems should be over: for no major group in American society is politically more monolithic.
In the belief in unity and leadership and (unspecified) innovation, the Obama movement is prototypically fascist.
Humbled? I doubt it. I supsect he is walking around with a sense of deliberation.
Who said this? "By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. "
Democrats are the female, mommy party. Republican are the male, daddy party. Democrats can't say 'no'. Matter of fact, Obama's campaigned is built around the empty, but meaningless feel-good chant of, "Yes we can.". Republicans (used to be) the party that said no. I think the percentage of people willing to be mislead, remains the same, everywhere. An old, pre-World War II Nazi, said something like, "Power lies like a gun in the street, waiting for someone to pick it up." So too the dumb masses waiting for a political Messiah to lead them.
McCain is such a poor speaker compared to Obama who really is hypnotic. McCain comes across as boring with no energy and continually stares at the teleprompter....IMO Obama will create a democrat landslide...
Astounding egoism is "stunning" also, leaving even opponents reeling back on their heels. This guy's skilled, alright, but so is a side-show carnie.
You would think we'd be used to this sort of thing, not surprised by the latest Cult Leader, but it gets right down to the followers, which can never be more than a Plurality, but that can often be "enough," can it not?
The guy's clearly leading yet another Mass Movement, and the only "unifying agent" missing from his list is thought to be the most powerful: Hatred.
That's the only departure from his "visible campaign," but if anyone has a better notion of the source of this person's rage, I would appreciate being clued in. I've read the basics, mind you, and I know how he thinks about standard political ideology - I'm talking about the Absolute Other kind of hatred, those he defines as Outside whatever truly weird and extended family he's trying to make out the rest of us.
The man is passionately insane. You know that, don't you. This is way beyond ideology. He's borderline, clinical, or, as Rush said last week, "an order of fries short of a Happy-Meal."
Hum so you seem to assume that the best speaker should normaly win in a presidential election.
I don’t think so.
My purpose was to highlight the danger of populist political speakers or preachers and i think that USA are not Germany before WW2
I live in PA, and IMO Obama will win here. People here are infatuated and hypnotized by him...
Our collective service can shape the destiny of this generation." ~~Barack Obama
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." ~~Karl Marx

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed." ~~Michelle Obama, 2008
I found his use of the preposition "from" rather than "of" in his title interesting as well.
For all his Harvard education and government positions, his father was not an admirable person; his own ambition and his proclivity to "marry" many women being but a few of his personality traits.
His desertion of Obama and his mother and the father's absence from Obama's life (except for one visit) preoccupied the son's search for an identity.
Like his unoriginal political positions and speeches, Obama latched onto his father's dreams and ambitions and made them his....to succeed in a public office. His arrogance and ambition, hidden under the cloak of high-mindedness, is unbounded, a form of deceit much to be feared.
Now, he seeks to foist Marxist dreams on all of us.
I fear you are right and pray that you are wrong. The idea of people voluntarily voting for this racist, ultra-radical Marxist is simply terrifying. The fact that if he is elected that he will have a complicit Congress means we will be paying for this election for decades. The very future of our country is at stake.
Actually, that quote comes from a George Bush speech in 2000. However, any one of them could have said it today. They believe THEY are the pinnacle of society, politics and human nature.
Politicians of every stripe now believe they are not elected to office but rather consecrated. Obama and McCain are included.
Did you notice how Obama never looks directly into the camera - he only looks to the left and right, using only two teleprompters not the usual three.
Does it have something to do with his ears, I wonder?
I thought his motions (especially at the end of his speech) looked remarkably Hitleresque....
Hister?
We will have Universal Health Care and Gay Marriage...If you talk to democrats, like I do in my area, they love the man...
About 4 years ago I went to visit my parents in Illinois for Christmas. They are libs to the core (they just don’t realize it or admit it). They were going on and on about this new guy named Barack Obama, and with 911 still so fresh in my mind, I was a little taken aback by the name, but didn’t pay much attention.
As luck would have it, Obama soon appeared on the TV set giving some speech about something. I didn’t pay much attention to him, but I started watching my parents watching him, and they both had this glazed over look in their eyes with these zombified smiles on their faces, and I was just shocked at how easily enraptured they were by the man. Since then, the farther he’s come, the more uneasy I feel everytime I see him speak or hear his voice. Nevermind his marxist view of the world and hatred for whitey (and yes, I know he hates whitey. That’s what has been preached in the church he saw fit to attend for 20 years. One is known by the company one keeps).
4 years later, and here we are...
I cannot believe this man is one small step from the WH. I still have a tiny bit of faith that a tiny majority of the American people will be smart enough not to vote for this “creature,” but knowing the Dems and their thirst to turn this nation into a marxist utopia, or worse, they’ll cheat just enough in this election to win it. They’re good at cheating and rule breaking. It’s the one thing Dems excel at during an election.
The ends justify the means in the minds of every twisted lefty on the planet.
How the hell did we get to this point?
Protect this nation, Jesus, I pray. Amen.
He is dangerous.
Yes, indeed, you are correct. I recognize the tribe all too well, and become somewhat borderline myself, to be sure.
Meditations on "When to Go Underground," comes to mind, a piece I ran across years ago that seems no longer Optimized for search engines, which would follow reason, I suppose. I suppose they went ahead and tipped over the desk and cubicle barriers and walked off the job site without filling that TPS report.
Seriously, though. It's like fighting an ocean swell, or trying to engineer a reversal of the tides. When the time comes, it won't be hard to hunt me down. The best we can hope for is that, in all practicality, Socialism must fail. Not only is it deadly, it is stupid and flawed in the Real World.
This Obama character doesn't operate in the real world. He hired "smart people," he says. Not so as as I can see.
He makes Jack Kennedy look like Ronald Reagan.
[such a poor speaker]
He is not just a poor speaker, he is an incredibly poor speaker. His syrupy sing song delivery is enough to make one sick. When he was zinging Obama he used the same stupid pattern, “(Zing)...this is not the kind of change we want...(bad scoff)...(Cheshire cat grin)”
Now Black Whiteguilt Oblack will give 5 mos of platitudes w/no specifics.
Pray for W and Our Troops
The Hatred.
It is there and the militant groups are waiting in the wings.
His softball with his church, his connections to the NOI, and close listening to his rhetoric...that piece is there, the hatred. It will come out of the closet when it is strategically needed.
Remember many here are worried about riots etc. if he did not get the nomination. Will we just as scared in November?
It will take courage come November. It will take patriotic courage.
“If you talk to democrats, like I do in my area, they love the man...”
I talk to democrats in my area, and they hate obama and state they will never vote for him because he’s a moron. I won’t mention the racist factor but that’s evident, too.
I guess each state grows different kinds of democrats.
Reductio ad Hitlerum
.....It will take courage come November.....
It doesn’t exist. Many here think personal core principles trump the courage required to vote for the Republican candidate and assure Obama and the leftists don’t prevail. The attitude is better Me Me Me than worry about a socialist state.
This is what I've noticed---and find his speech patterns hypnotizing.

Obama supporters listen to his speech in San Antonio, Texas. REUTERS/Jim Young
If you read his statement in SF about bitter people, what you will learn is he was answering a question about why he doesn’t connect to some and they won’t vote for him.
His belief is they are racist’s and a few other things.
So he doesn’t think we are against his beliefs, but his color.
I mentioned to friends early on that Obama speaks in the same manner as AH.
Should be an interesting 5 months or 8 years.
Sad to say the republican party is also full of socialists, and the dems are furthur to he left, Marxists.
We are reaping the fruits of what we have sown by allowing the socialists to join the republican party, they have destroyed it just as they set out to do.
He'll have to work on that before the debates...
Sorry Biggirl, but 90% of his supporters are zombies. They have no clue what damage this IDIOT will do to this country. He will get things like free health care, amnesty for illegals and other give away programs passed. Once those are in effect, taxpayers will be stuck with huge bills.
What the left refuses to realize is that capitalism is the easiest American asset to relocate offshore. Who will pay the tax bill then? All the workers left in the workplace will have to pick up the tab, and the economy will nosedive.
In plain English, he is a professional B*** $***er.
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