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The strange sound of OBAMA's voice and speech

Posted on 06/04/2008 2:54:18 AM PDT by Ulysse

I did not hear till now about an analysis of OBAMA's stance , created mediatic image and above all his voice and way of speaking.

Probably it has been done somewhere but AS AN EUROPEAN i was struck by the way he speaks like some kind of preachers or populist political leaders reminding us very bad memories. It reminds me some leaders hypnotizing crowds and leading them to real nightmares.

The rythm,the loudness,the tone of his voice beside the repetition of mantras("change","yes we can"...)give a scary impression...

But this it not surprising if he learned from J.WRIGHT


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1 posted on 06/04/2008 2:54:19 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Ulysse
It reminds me some leaders hypnotizing crowds and leading them to real nightmares.

You are not alone.

2 posted on 06/04/2008 2:59:33 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: Ulysse
You kind of like this....
3 posted on 06/04/2008 3:04:14 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Kozak

That should read “You mean, kind of like this”.


4 posted on 06/04/2008 3:05:01 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Ulysse

I had watched streaming video last night of Obama’s speech and it seems the folks there were like zombies.


5 posted on 06/04/2008 3:08:21 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Ulysse

He’s the evil of two lessers.


6 posted on 06/04/2008 3:09:54 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Ulysse

I have had the same thought. Whereas Jesse Jackson uses jingoisms, Obama uses a series of parallel clauses before he makes his point.

He preaches Hope and Change, words w/nebulous definitions in his case, and in this way his listeners fill in the blanks w/their own interpretations of what he means.

This smoke and mirrors technique follows the methods he used as a community organizer.

He is on record as having said that self-interest is what drives people to follow anyone who espouses his own agenda in seeking power.


7 posted on 06/04/2008 3:10:57 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Ulysse

Are we thinking about a name that “begins with an H...ends with an R?”


8 posted on 06/04/2008 3:12:35 AM PDT by livius
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To: Ulysse
dem·a·gogue Variant(s): also dem·a·gog \ˈde-mə-ˌgäg\

Function: noun

Etymology: Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos people (perhaps akin to Greek daiesthai to divide) + agōgos leading, from agein to lead — more at tide, agent Date: 1648

1 : a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power

2 : a leader championing the cause of the common people in ancient times — dem·a·gogu·ery \-ˌgä-g(ə-)rē\ noun — dem·a·gogy \-ˌgä-gē, -ˌgä-jē, -ˌgō-jē\ noun

9 posted on 06/04/2008 3:16:30 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Ulysse

I agree with you...He’s an orator...but the message is government dominance....You can’t drive your SUV or eat whatever you want...very scarey because it’s aimed at you and me...the hard working middle class.


10 posted on 06/04/2008 3:19:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Ulysse

I had the same reaction last night! I was on the Live thread and Obama was concluding his speech with some very loud, rhythmic passages.

Combined with his body motions, I was reminded of Rev Wright and wondered if others were having the same impression. With that in mind I then noticed the zeal of the crowd and the way the stage was set. It was spooky.

[Are we allowed to say “spooky” when talking about Obama?!]


11 posted on 06/04/2008 3:26:03 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Ulysse

Si se pueda


12 posted on 06/04/2008 3:28:26 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ulysse

the name you are reluctant to use HITLER, it correct


13 posted on 06/04/2008 3:28:31 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Ulysse
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14 posted on 06/04/2008 3:31:43 AM PDT by johnny7 (Don't mess with my tag-lines!)
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To: Carolinamom
Very observant.

Obama also uses diametrically opposing and incomplete clauses, as well.

Without question, it is purposeful, and it is a proven technique of carnival barkers and hypnotists designed place the pliant "participant" off center, momentarily stunned, so as to more easily make a "suggestion."

He is constantly evoking "State" in the willing, just as Adolf Hitler did and just as dangerously egoistic.

What's good is what's good for Obama, basically.

I doubt winning the presidential nomination of the Democrats has humbled this guy.

What do you think?

15 posted on 06/04/2008 3:32:10 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Timeout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feLqz1udhtY

“...Obama was concluding his speech with some very loud, rhythmic passages.
Combined with his body motions,... “


16 posted on 06/04/2008 3:34:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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To: Ulysse

There IS something very odd about Hussein’s speech patterns. There are odd pauses, a strange cadence, and exaggerated accenting of syllables. It creeps me to listen to him.


17 posted on 06/04/2008 3:35:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Ulysse

Watch a few videos of Malcomb X, and particularly his interviews, and you will see the model for Obama’s rhetorical style. For all their differences, both men were superficially educated, and readily absorbed notions from crank mentors.

Both believed in “unity.” Malcolm thought that racial solidarity of the blacks was key, and later in his career he wished to enlarge this to a unity of all non-white people, thinking that colored folks would then be a majority, and all would be put right.

We have all heard Obama speak of unity, but there is no unity unless enforced. Obama likes to dismiss objections as “distractions.”

If unity were a solution to the problems of black Americans, their problems should be over: for no major group in American society is politically more monolithic.

In the belief in unity and leadership and (unspecified) innovation, the Obama movement is prototypically fascist.


18 posted on 06/04/2008 3:40:08 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: Prospero
I doubt winning the presidential nomination of the Democrats has humbled this guy.

Humbled? I doubt it. I supsect he is walking around with a sense of deliberation.

Who said this? "By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. "

19 posted on 06/04/2008 3:45:09 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Ulysse
You are correct. Obama, and the Democrat party, are based on emotion, emotional manipulation. The Republican and Libertarians are more classical, and based upon ideas and reason, confirmed by observation, evidence and history.

Democrats are the female, mommy party. Republican are the male, daddy party. Democrats can't say 'no'. Matter of fact, Obama's campaigned is built around the empty, but meaningless feel-good chant of, "Yes we can.". Republicans (used to be) the party that said no. I think the percentage of people willing to be mislead, remains the same, everywhere. An old, pre-World War II Nazi, said something like, "Power lies like a gun in the street, waiting for someone to pick it up." So too the dumb masses waiting for a political Messiah to lead them.

20 posted on 06/04/2008 3:54:50 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Ulysse
Link for anti-Obama music riff, "We Are Building A Religion"
21 posted on 06/04/2008 3:57:21 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Ulysse

McCain is such a poor speaker compared to Obama who really is hypnotic. McCain comes across as boring with no energy and continually stares at the teleprompter....IMO Obama will create a democrat landslide...


22 posted on 06/04/2008 4:04:01 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: raybbr
"By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America."

Astounding egoism is "stunning" also, leaving even opponents reeling back on their heels. This guy's skilled, alright, but so is a side-show carnie.

You would think we'd be used to this sort of thing, not surprised by the latest Cult Leader, but it gets right down to the followers, which can never be more than a Plurality, but that can often be "enough," can it not?

The guy's clearly leading yet another Mass Movement, and the only "unifying agent" missing from his list is thought to be the most powerful: Hatred.

That's the only departure from his "visible campaign," but if anyone has a better notion of the source of this person's rage, I would appreciate being clued in. I've read the basics, mind you, and I know how he thinks about standard political ideology - I'm talking about the Absolute Other kind of hatred, those he defines as Outside whatever truly weird and extended family he's trying to make out the rest of us.

The man is passionately insane. You know that, don't you. This is way beyond ideology. He's borderline, clinical, or, as Rush said last week, "an order of fries short of a Happy-Meal."

23 posted on 06/04/2008 4:13:37 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Hum so you seem to assume that the best speaker should normaly win in a presidential election.
I don’t think so.
My purpose was to highlight the danger of populist political speakers or preachers and i think that USA are not Germany before WW2


24 posted on 06/04/2008 4:17:01 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Ulysse

I live in PA, and IMO Obama will win here. People here are infatuated and hypnotized by him...


25 posted on 06/04/2008 4:20:02 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Ulysse
"Our individual salvation depends on collective salvation.

Our collective service can shape the destiny of this generation." ~~Barack Obama

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." ~~Karl Marx

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed." ~~Michelle Obama, 2008

26 posted on 06/04/2008 4:21:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Ulysse
Mrs. Clinton makes me scream and hit the mute...Barry's voice and arrogance really makes me scream. I refuse to listen to him...I guess I won't be turning on my TV for four years.
27 posted on 06/04/2008 4:31:22 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Prospero
Have you read his book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER? This purported autobiography is part fiction...he admitted it as such. But there are revealing clues to his character and thought processes.

I found his use of the preposition "from" rather than "of" in his title interesting as well.

For all his Harvard education and government positions, his father was not an admirable person; his own ambition and his proclivity to "marry" many women being but a few of his personality traits.

His desertion of Obama and his mother and the father's absence from Obama's life (except for one visit) preoccupied the son's search for an identity.

Like his unoriginal political positions and speeches, Obama latched onto his father's dreams and ambitions and made them his....to succeed in a public office. His arrogance and ambition, hidden under the cloak of high-mindedness, is unbounded, a form of deceit much to be feared.

Now, he seeks to foist Marxist dreams on all of us.

28 posted on 06/04/2008 4:33:34 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
IMO Obama will create a democrat landslide...

I fear you are right and pray that you are wrong. The idea of people voluntarily voting for this racist, ultra-radical Marxist is simply terrifying. The fact that if he is elected that he will have a complicit Congress means we will be paying for this election for decades. The very future of our country is at stake.

29 posted on 06/04/2008 4:38:13 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Prospero
Astounding egoism is "stunning" also, leaving even opponents reeling back on their heels. This guy's skilled, alright, but so is a side-show carnie.

Actually, that quote comes from a George Bush speech in 2000. However, any one of them could have said it today. They believe THEY are the pinnacle of society, politics and human nature.

Politicians of every stripe now believe they are not elected to office but rather consecrated. Obama and McCain are included.

31 posted on 06/04/2008 4:41:09 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Did you notice how Obama never looks directly into the camera - he only looks to the left and right, using only two teleprompters not the usual three.

Does it have something to do with his ears, I wonder?

I thought his motions (especially at the end of his speech) looked remarkably Hitleresque....


32 posted on 06/04/2008 4:44:16 AM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: livius

Hister?


33 posted on 06/04/2008 4:49:40 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I fear you are right and pray that you are wrong. The idea of people voluntarily voting for this racist, ultra-radical Marxist is simply terrifying. The fact that if he is elected that he will have a complicit Congress means we will be paying for this election for decades. The very future of our country is at stake.

We will have Universal Health Care and Gay Marriage...If you talk to democrats, like I do in my area, they love the man...

34 posted on 06/04/2008 4:53:52 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Ulysse

About 4 years ago I went to visit my parents in Illinois for Christmas. They are libs to the core (they just don’t realize it or admit it). They were going on and on about this new guy named Barack Obama, and with 911 still so fresh in my mind, I was a little taken aback by the name, but didn’t pay much attention.

As luck would have it, Obama soon appeared on the TV set giving some speech about something. I didn’t pay much attention to him, but I started watching my parents watching him, and they both had this glazed over look in their eyes with these zombified smiles on their faces, and I was just shocked at how easily enraptured they were by the man. Since then, the farther he’s come, the more uneasy I feel everytime I see him speak or hear his voice. Nevermind his marxist view of the world and hatred for whitey (and yes, I know he hates whitey. That’s what has been preached in the church he saw fit to attend for 20 years. One is known by the company one keeps).

4 years later, and here we are...

I cannot believe this man is one small step from the WH. I still have a tiny bit of faith that a tiny majority of the American people will be smart enough not to vote for this “creature,” but knowing the Dems and their thirst to turn this nation into a marxist utopia, or worse, they’ll cheat just enough in this election to win it. They’re good at cheating and rule breaking. It’s the one thing Dems excel at during an election.

The ends justify the means in the minds of every twisted lefty on the planet.

How the hell did we get to this point?

Protect this nation, Jesus, I pray. Amen.


35 posted on 06/04/2008 4:56:16 AM PDT by smedley64
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To: Ulysse
Both Hitler and Mussolini came to power based on their rhetoric, not on experience or policies. I've been saying that about Obama for several months now.

He is dangerous.

36 posted on 06/04/2008 5:02:55 AM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: raybbr
Obama and McCain are included

Yes, indeed, you are correct. I recognize the tribe all too well, and become somewhat borderline myself, to be sure.

Meditations on "When to Go Underground," comes to mind, a piece I ran across years ago that seems no longer Optimized for search engines, which would follow reason, I suppose. I suppose they went ahead and tipped over the desk and cubicle barriers and walked off the job site without filling that TPS report.

Seriously, though. It's like fighting an ocean swell, or trying to engineer a reversal of the tides. When the time comes, it won't be hard to hunt me down. The best we can hope for is that, in all practicality, Socialism must fail. Not only is it deadly, it is stupid and flawed in the Real World.

This Obama character doesn't operate in the real world. He hired "smart people," he says. Not so as as I can see.

He makes Jack Kennedy look like Ronald Reagan.

37 posted on 06/04/2008 5:06:14 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

[such a poor speaker]

He is not just a poor speaker, he is an incredibly poor speaker. His syrupy sing song delivery is enough to make one sick. When he was zinging Obama he used the same stupid pattern, “(Zing)...this is not the kind of change we want...(bad scoff)...(Cheshire cat grin)”


38 posted on 06/04/2008 5:09:46 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Ulysse

Now Black Whiteguilt Oblack will give 5 mos of platitudes w/no specifics.

Pray for W and Our Troops


39 posted on 06/04/2008 5:12:29 AM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: Prospero
Actually, he is playing it very smooth right now.

The Hatred.

It is there and the militant groups are waiting in the wings.

His softball with his church, his connections to the NOI, and close listening to his rhetoric...that piece is there, the hatred. It will come out of the closet when it is strategically needed.

Remember many here are worried about riots etc. if he did not get the nomination. Will we just as scared in November?

It will take courage come November. It will take patriotic courage.

40 posted on 06/04/2008 5:13:33 AM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

“If you talk to democrats, like I do in my area, they love the man...”

I talk to democrats in my area, and they hate obama and state they will never vote for him because he’s a moron. I won’t mention the racist factor but that’s evident, too.

I guess each state grows different kinds of democrats.


41 posted on 06/04/2008 5:15:16 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: Kozak

Reductio ad Hitlerum


42 posted on 06/04/2008 5:16:15 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: EBH

.....It will take courage come November.....

It doesn’t exist. Many here think personal core principles trump the courage required to vote for the Republican candidate and assure Obama and the leftists don’t prevail. The attitude is better Me Me Me than worry about a socialist state.


43 posted on 06/04/2008 5:18:36 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Fresh Wind
exaggerated accenting of syllables

This is what I've noticed---and find his speech patterns hypnotizing.

44 posted on 06/04/2008 5:20:02 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: sergeantdave

Obama supporters listen to his speech in San Antonio, Texas. REUTERS/Jim Young

45 posted on 06/04/2008 5:20:09 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Ulysse

If you read his statement in SF about bitter people, what you will learn is he was answering a question about why he doesn’t connect to some and they won’t vote for him.

His belief is they are racist’s and a few other things.

So he doesn’t think we are against his beliefs, but his color.

I mentioned to friends early on that Obama speaks in the same manner as AH.

Should be an interesting 5 months or 8 years.

Sad to say the republican party is also full of socialists, and the dems are furthur to he left, Marxists.

We are reaping the fruits of what we have sown by allowing the socialists to join the republican party, they have destroyed it just as they set out to do.


46 posted on 06/04/2008 5:21:51 AM PDT by stockpirate (There is no such thing as a fair tax, we are all slaves, support Capitalism!)
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To: RetSignman
McCain is not just a poor speaker, he is an incredibly poor speaker. His syrupy sing song delivery...

He'll have to work on that before the debates...

47 posted on 06/04/2008 5:22:38 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: RetSignman
A member of the Saturday Night Live group has learned to mimic BHO perfectly. He is made up to look very much like him and his cadence and body movements are perfect. The actor/comedian has done an even better job of mimicking him than the woman who mimics hillary on that show.
48 posted on 06/04/2008 5:25:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Biggirl
I had watched streaming video last night of Obama’s speech and it seems the folks there were like zombies.

Sorry Biggirl, but 90% of his supporters are zombies. They have no clue what damage this IDIOT will do to this country. He will get things like free health care, amnesty for illegals and other give away programs passed. Once those are in effect, taxpayers will be stuck with huge bills.

What the left refuses to realize is that capitalism is the easiest American asset to relocate offshore. Who will pay the tax bill then? All the workers left in the workplace will have to pick up the tab, and the economy will nosedive.

49 posted on 06/04/2008 5:29:53 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO (or HRC).")
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To: Carolinamom
....Obama uses a series of parallel clauses before he makes his point.

In plain English, he is a professional B*** $***er.

50 posted on 06/04/2008 5:32:24 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO (or HRC).")
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