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Judge declares mistrial in the case of Jewish Federation shooter
Seattle Times ^ | June 4, 2008 | Natalie Singer

Posted on 06/04/2008 5:01:02 PM PDT by Alouette

A mistrial has been declared in the trial of Jewish Federation gunman Naveed Haq.

Superior Court Judge Paris Kallas declared the mistrial moments ago after jurors told her they were hopelessly deadlocked on 14 of 15 counts against Haq, 32.

On the only count the jury agreed on, it found Haq not guilty of one of five attempted murder charges he faced. That count had to do with the shooting of federation employee Carol Goldman, one of five women wounded by the gunman.

Haq showed no emotion when the mistrial was declared.

Prosecutors immediately announced they would seek to retry Haq. A status hearing on a new trial has been scheduled for a week from tomorrow.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemite; domesticterrorism; hatecrime; islamicterrorism; jewish; jewishfederation; jihadinamerica; naveedhaq; seattle; shooting
Not guilty by reason of Islamity.
1 posted on 06/04/2008 5:02:15 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 06/04/2008 5:03:04 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

Only in the peoples republic of seattle, where there is a statue dedicated to lenin.


3 posted on 06/04/2008 5:05:31 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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4 posted on 06/04/2008 5:09:48 PM PDT by camerakid400 (Oy Gevalt)
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To: vpintheak
Sadly the people here on the west coast have so much compassion for the criminal and none for the victims. Insane or not, this was premeditated and carried out nearly as planned. Have the prosecutors charged him with the wrong crimes??
5 posted on 06/04/2008 5:11:00 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: camerakid400

Didn’t come through.


6 posted on 06/04/2008 5:12:09 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: vpintheak
Only in the peoples republic of seattle, where there is a statue dedicated to lenin.

In Moscow, in Red Square, there are historical impersonators who walk around and chat & take pictures with the tourists. The guy who portrays Lenin has trained pigeons to perch on his shoulders and crap all over his hat and jacket. "Shit on Lenin," he says. There is also a Tsar Nikolai impersonator, Prince Mikhail and Princess Sophia impersonators, but no Stalin.

7 posted on 06/04/2008 5:14:04 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: vpintheak
Only in the peoples republic of seattle, where there is a statue dedicated to lenin.[sic]

I have a tough time believing that one, at least literally.

8 posted on 06/04/2008 5:19:59 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: vpintheak

It was a photo of the Lenin statue in Seattle with a bunch of commies.


9 posted on 06/04/2008 5:20:41 PM PDT by camerakid400 (Oy Gevalt)
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To: Alouette

Just remember that it only takes one nutcase out of 12 to get a hung jury.


10 posted on 06/04/2008 5:21:17 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
I have a tough time believing that one, at least literally.

Google images "Lenin statue Seattle"

11 posted on 06/04/2008 5:22:42 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

Unglaublich — unbelievable.


12 posted on 06/04/2008 5:28:37 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: Alouette
Is this why there is an ad on the Seattle Craigs List for a Hit man?
13 posted on 06/04/2008 5:31:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: justiceseeker93

google “seattle lenin statue” then you will literally see it.


14 posted on 06/04/2008 5:35:49 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Alouette
Not guilty by reason of Islamity.

Yup, his precise defense, Allah told him to do it.

15 posted on 06/04/2008 5:47:56 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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16 posted on 06/04/2008 5:49:10 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: originalbuckeye

Odd that libs would support a hate crime.


17 posted on 06/04/2008 6:06:06 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: weegee

The jury was probably undecided on these questions:

1. Does state of Washington have a Jew hunting season?
2. What did the Jews do to provoke him?


18 posted on 06/04/2008 6:21:08 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

I think some of you guys are giving the jury in Seattle too much credit. Either the prosecutor screwed up or the case was weak... anyone know?


19 posted on 06/04/2008 6:50:50 PM PDT by John123 (Obama said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: John123

Read the article and you will see why. The case was not weak at all. There was no question that Haq killed one person and wounded five and that he deliberately chose a Jewish target. The defense raised an insanity plea. Also, a police interview of Haq was ruled inadmissable by a judge.


20 posted on 06/04/2008 7:14:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
because police had ignored Haq's multiple requests to speak with an attorney.

I just read it like you suggested... the police didn't help the prosecution any...

It sounds like the defendant had a stronger case for not guilty by reason of insanity without the police interview... but I believe in that case... he would be institutionalized.

21 posted on 06/04/2008 7:24:59 PM PDT by John123 (Obama said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: John123

“Not guilty by reason of insanity” had its place in history, when it meant the defendant could spend the rest of his life in an insane asylum (which in those days were worse than prison) instead of being executed.

Today it just means the defendant is given some pills and turned loose.


22 posted on 06/04/2008 7:36:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: La Enchiladita

From the article:

“One of the biggest was a pretrial ruling by King County Superior Court Judge Paris Kallas that placed a detailed, 55-minute interview Haq had with police right after the shooting off-limits for evidence, because police had ignored Haq’s multiple requests to speak with an attorney.”

This raises some interesting questions. Say that there was an active shooting like this and law enforcement believed that the individual was a member of a terror cell and had information about terror attacks set to occur within the coming days or weeks. Would the LE’s only options after a request to speak with an attorney was made be to have the DOJ contact the President and request an immediate “enemy combatant” designation?


23 posted on 06/04/2008 8:03:49 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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24 posted on 06/04/2008 9:22:47 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Alouette

What a crock. Too many libs in Seattle. Now if the man had shot a cat he would have been hung.


25 posted on 06/04/2008 9:42:41 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: John123

One of the jurors said that varying opinions of jurors caused the mistrial. Sadly not surprising for Seattle.


26 posted on 06/04/2008 9:55:33 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: Alouette

Ten to one some member(s) of the jury felt “sorry” for the SOB because he was a muzzie who was “oppressed” by the occupaaaaaaaaaaaaayshun.


27 posted on 06/05/2008 4:38:40 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hillary, Obama, McCain. Curly, Larry, Moe. Decisions, decisions.)
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To: John123

Islam IS institutionalized insanity. It is the death cult of a dead conquering warlord.

It’s like saying that a cannibal hunting and killing victims is “insane”. Clearly so. Rational people don’t engage in such activity in society.


28 posted on 06/05/2008 8:52:54 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: Alouette
As I understand it, a problem for the prosecution in the Haq trial was that Haq really is a nutcase off his meds.

As for Seattle having a statue to Lenin, it is more accurate to say that a certain neighborhood of Seattle has a statue of Lenin (that was originally erected in Czechoslovakia) and that it is tolerated because the people in this Seattle neighborhood tend to focus more on its artistic qualities rather than the legacy of person it represents.

29 posted on 06/05/2008 9:59:48 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Alouette

There is no Stalin, because everyone is afraid of what the REAL one would do, in case he somehow came back!


30 posted on 06/05/2008 10:24:20 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: John123; La Enchiladita; Alouette
Amongst the issues the defense raised, the fact the Haq thought G-d, Allah in Haq's case, approved of his actions, and that he thought his actions would have an impact on the world. Every jihadist believes that, imo they shouldn't be beyond the reach of the criminal justice system.

And he'd be institutionalized till cured. Maybe he could convert to Christianity.

When you consider that, insanity aside, the jury found him not-guilty of attempted 1st degree murder, and couldn't even agree if it was 2nd degree, I say the jury was a bit muddle headed. The only question they've left open is if it's open season on Jews, or all infidels. Hopefully his next jury will have better sense.

31 posted on 06/05/2008 12:31:44 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

“Maybe he could convert to Christianity.”

Heard rumors about this with Ramzi Yousef. Taqiyyah shenanigans?


32 posted on 06/05/2008 3:03:05 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: SJackson
When you consider that, insanity aside, the jury found him not-guilty of attempted 1st degree murder, and couldn't even agree if it was 2nd degree, I say the jury was a bit muddle headed. The only question they've left open is if it's open season on Jews, or all infidels. Hopefully his next jury will have better sense.

Things are pretty bad if someone commits what is clearly pre-meditated murder and terrorism and the jury cannot even agree on 2nd degree. I would not be surprised if all the "peace" and "human rights" groups make this creature into a hero.

33 posted on 06/05/2008 4:58:21 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: SJackson

“I say the jury was a bit muddle headed”

I seem to recall that the hung jury asked for more info. on what it means to be “insane”. They were instructed to use all of the guidance given to them in the trial, with emphasis on something like to declare him insane meant that he didn’t know the severity of his actions or if they were wrong. (It wasn’t exactly that - but something like that).

The defense lawyer said they couldn’t be instructed anymore (like what is considered “wrong”) and the judge upheld it citing some long-standing precident.

As I said, these weren’t the exact terms. But my thought upon reading it was “Well of course in Seattle you aren’t going to come up with an agreement on what is right or wrong - even when it comes to killing someone.”

(By the way, if he was so insane as not to think he had done anything wrong - why did he grab a hostage to try to avoid capture?)


34 posted on 06/05/2008 5:15:14 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: 21twelve

Opps - I should have read the article.

“Haq grew a goatee, then shaved it off ....He tried platform shoes to increase his height and donned a toupee....and had strangely swollen ankles.”

Seems like he had all sorts of justification to shoot up a Jewish center. I think it was Sam Mallone that offered these words of wisdom: “There’s no such thing as bad boys, only bad haircuts.”


35 posted on 06/05/2008 5:23:05 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: 21twelve
seem to recall that the hung jury asked for more info. on what it means to be “insane”. They were instructed to use all of the guidance given to them in the trial, with emphasis on something like to declare him insane meant that he didn’t know the severity of his actions or if they were wrong.

I read that too, it's hard to figure out without hearing from the jurors. Since it was a single incident, to me the not guilty means they rejected the insanity defence on some level. How you can commit a single crime and be sane on one count, insane on another is beyond me. The jurors reasoning would be interesting to hear.

36 posted on 06/05/2008 5:36:24 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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