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This Kennedy was our friend: RFK - supporter of Israel murdered by Arab terrorist
THE JERUSALEM POST ^ | Jun. 4, 2008 | LENNY BEN-DAVID

Posted on 06/04/2008 6:01:29 PM PDT by SJackson

Lenny Ben David on RFK - supporter of Israel murdered by Arab terrorist

This Kennedy was our friend

LENNY BEN-DAVID , THE JERUSALEM POST Jun. 4, 2008

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Hillary Clinton's horrible gaffe several weeks ago about Robert Kennedy's assassination served as a reminder that RFK was gunned down exactly 40 years ago as he left a primary victory celebration in California. Bobby generated great hope and enthusiasm among America's young, especially those who were opposed to the Vietnam war - not unlike the campaign of a young Illinois Senator today.

RFK was a strong supporter of Israel, and that support was genuine, deep, and heart-felt.

And it cost him his life.

His oldest daughter, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, told me on his 30th yahrzeit, "He was killed by an Arab terrorist [Sirhan Sirhan] because of his support for Israel."

Sirhan's motives - which were expressed in his diary and trial - were fueled by his anger over Israel's victory exactly one year earlier.

Ironically, June 5 is also another Kennedy anniversary. Sixty years ago, just weeks after Israel declared its independence, the Boston Post published a series of articles by the young college graduate who arrived in Palestine in late March 1948. Bobby's words still inspire:

"The Jewish people in Palestine who believe in and have been working toward this national state have become an immensely proud and determined people. It is already a truly great modern example of the birth of a nation with the primary ingredients of dignity and self-respect.

"From a small village of a few thousand inhabitants, Tel Aviv has grown into a most impressive modern metropolis of over 200,000. They have truly done much with what all agree was very little...

"The Jews point with pride to the fact that over 500,000 Arabs, in the 12 years between 1932-1944, came into Palestine to take advantage of living conditions existing in no other Arab state..."

RFK'S WORDS also serve as a rejoinder to anti-Israel propagandists today. Some revisionists claim that the Jews of the Yishuv outnumbered and outgunned the Arabs in Palestine. Kennedy's eye-witness account is different:

"When I was in Tel Aviv the Jews informed the British government that 600 Iraqi troops were going to cross into Palestine from Trans-Jordan by the Allenby Bridge on a certain date and requested the British take appropriate action to prevent this passage. The troops passed unmolested...

"I saw several thousand non-Palestinian Arab troops in Palestine, including many of the famed British-trained and equipped Arab legionnaires of King Abdullah. There were soldiers from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Trans-Jordan, and they were all proudly pointed out to me by a spokesman of the Arab Higher Committee... Every Arab to whom I talked spoke of thousands of soldiers massed in the 'terrible triangle of Nablus, Tulkarm, Jenin' and of hundreds that were pouring in daily...

"When I was in Lebanon and asked a dean at the American University in Beirut if many students were leaving for the fight in Palestine he shrugged and said, 'Not now - the quota has been oversubscribed.' When journeying by car from Jerusalem to Amman I passed many truckloads of armed Arabs and even then Jericho was alive with Arab troops. There is no question that it was taken over by the Arabs for an armed camp long before May 15 [the British date of departure]...

"The inability [of the Haganah] to make any long-range military maneuvers because of the presence of the British has been a great and almost disastrous handicap to the Jews... If the Haganah had waited for May 15th and the withdrawal of British troops, there would be few alive in Jerusalem today. Strong units of that body had moved into the hills on either side of that strategic road and repelled Arab counterattacks long enough for several hundred truckloads to make the 40-mile trip into the city... The maneuvers had to take place and took place despite the British...."

IN ONE stirring passage, Kennedy joined with Haganah fighters and physically placed himself in danger.

"I have ridden in Jewish armored car convoys which the British have stopped to inspect for arms. As always, there were members of the Haganah aboard and they quickly broke down their small arms, passing the pieces among the occupants to conceal them so as to prevent confiscation... If the arms had been found and confiscated and Arabs had attacked, there would have been but a remote chance of survival for any of the occupants. There have been many not as fortunate as we...."

ROBERT KENNEDY'S affinity for American Jews and empathy for the Jews of Palestine was all the more remarkable considering his father's antipathy and the views of one of his father's friends, Lord Beaverbrook. As related by RFK's biographer, Arthur Schlesinger, Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. opposed the United States's entry into the war against Germany, and in the summer of 1942 complained to his friend, Beaverbrook, "There is a great undercurrent of dissatisfaction with the appointment of so many Jews in high places in Washington..."

In March 1948, Bobby found himself on the Queen Mary sailing to England with Beaverbrook. Schlesinger relates, quoting from RFK's diary, that when the young Kennedy told Beaverbrook he was heading to the Middle East, the Englishman remarked that the United States was "a subjugated nation to a Jewish minority..." Bobby Kennedy was probably one of America's most optimistic and forward-thinking politicians since Franklyn Roosevelt. His attitude is reflected in his famous quote (paraphrasing G.B. Shaw), "There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why. I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"

And that attitude was obvious already in 1948 when RFK wrote, "It is against all law and nature that this Jewish state should exist... The Jews believe that in a few more years, if a Jewish state is formed, it will be the only stabilizing factor remaining in the Near and Middle East... Vehemence and hatred between the Jews and Arabs increase daily. But in many cases Jews and Arabs work side by side in the fields and orange groves outside of Tel Aviv. Perhaps these Jews and Arabs are making a greater contribution to the future peace in Palestine than are those who carry guns on both sides..."

May his memory continue to be blessed.

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The writer served as deputy chief of mission in Israel's embassy in Washington. He blogs at www.lennybendavid.com. Robert Kennedy's articles can be viewed at www.robertkennedyandisrael.blogspot.com


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: assassination; israel; kennedyfamily; rfk; sirhansirhan

1 posted on 06/04/2008 6:01:29 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
The RAT Party hadn't begun to openly display its contempt for Israel when Kennedy was alive.If he was alive today he'd be every bit as hostile to Israel as is Jimmah,Ramsey Clark or any other worthless RAT.
2 posted on 06/04/2008 6:04:55 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: gridlock; dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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Nor should be forget Ambassador Cleo Noel and and Charges d'Affair George Moore, murdered in 1973 by Yasser Arafat, 2nd in charge Abu "Peace Partner" Mazen, in an attempt to free Sirhan Sirhan.

Cleo A. Noel, Jr. - United States Ambassador
 
Who Murdered Cleo Noel?-Why does State Dept cover up Arafat's role in murdering a US diplomat
 
 

Interestingly, the two threads linked have zero posts.

3 posted on 06/04/2008 6:05:41 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The RAT Party hadn't begun to openly display its contempt for Israel when Kennedy was alive.If he was alive today he'd be every bit as hostile to Israel as is Jimmah,Ramsey Clark or any other worthless RAT.

No, you've nothing to base that on. Neither party was particularly supportive of Israel at the time, support was expected to come from Europe. That's what made RFK stand out. And what got him killed. It's not a party thing, Nixon recognized the grave errors Ike made in the region, and changed his outlook too.

4 posted on 06/04/2008 6:08:35 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

I respect RFK for this stand he took and respect him for taking on the mob.


5 posted on 06/04/2008 6:23:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
I respect RFK for this stand he took and respect him for taking on the mob.

I agree on both counts, Vietnam, the issue he ran on, a different story.

6 posted on 06/04/2008 6:27:32 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Gay State Conservative

RFK by today’s standards would be like what we have seen in folks such as Joe Leiberman or Zell Miller, the conservitive Dems the radical left in the present day Dem party has chased out.


7 posted on 06/04/2008 6:27:45 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: SJackson

Bookmark for later read.


8 posted on 06/04/2008 6:28:10 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SJackson

In truth, the gunning down of RFK was the REAL first jihadi attack on America, years before 9/11.


9 posted on 06/04/2008 6:30:43 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

I often refer to his murder, rather than the better known early 70s attacks. Of cours jihadists have been attacking American for centuries, the west for a millenia. But in retrospect RFK’s murder was significant. But no one looks back to it.


10 posted on 06/04/2008 6:33:12 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Biggirl; Pelham
In truth, the gunning down of RFK was the REAL first jihadi attack on America, years before 9/11.

Sirhan Sirhan was a Muslim?
11 posted on 06/04/2008 6:38:30 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Biggirl

Jihad? He was a Christian.


12 posted on 06/04/2008 6:39:59 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Biggirl

You can’t really call this a jihadi attack, since Sirhan was a Christian. Churches he attended at various times include Maronite, Baptist and Seventh Day Adventist. He also had an interest in the occult.

At any rate, he wasn’t a Muslim.


13 posted on 06/04/2008 6:41:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: SJackson
"He was killed by an Arab [Sirhan Sirhan] because of his support for Israel Sirhan was into the mob for a lot of money, and they wanted Bobby to be another good Kennedy."

There, I fixed it.

14 posted on 06/04/2008 6:42:16 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Das Outsider

Arab Christian, there were a number of Christian terrorists at the time, most prominent the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, still around though now Muslim. Marxist organizations, as are all (?-am I missing anyone) of the Arab terrorist groups. Big on hijacking and airport attacks. Arab terrorist would be better than jihadist in describing Sirhan, same motivation, but Christians have gotten out of the business, so I’m not sure there’s much harm. And as I noted, it was Arafat killing American diplomats to free him.


15 posted on 06/04/2008 6:43:54 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Slump Tester
Sirhan was into the mob for a lot of money, and they wanted Bobby to be another good Kennedy

Perhaps, we won't know, but it was Yasser Arafat who attempted to free him. And that wasn't about the mob, it was about Sirhan's good deed.

16 posted on 06/04/2008 6:45:38 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Sherman Logan; forkinsocket; Biggirl

See 11, he was an Arab terrorist. No, not a jihadist, but from the perspective of motivation, not much different.


17 posted on 06/04/2008 6:46:59 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

True, from US history, there was the famous Barbary pirates attack, a bit of it recalled in the offical US Marine song. But in the more contempary sense, what happened 40 years ago this week, really brought jihadi attacks front and center. Plus this and what Hilary said a few weeks back could bring in new interest in a movie called “Bobby” about people in that hotel that RFK got shot talking about the things leading up to it. Bookmarked for futher reading.


18 posted on 06/04/2008 6:47:48 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: SJackson
RFK'S WORDS also serve as a rejoinder to anti-Israel propagandists today. Some revisionists claim that the Jews of the Yishuv outnumbered and outgunned the Arabs in Palestine. Kennedy's eye-witness account is different

The revisionists are right. (In this case.) Trained, armed Jews about 35,000. Trained, armed Arabs about 23,000.

In addition, the Jews were fighting on interior lines and had a consolidated command structure. The Arabs had the exterior lines and were about as uncoordinated as can be imagined, with at least six or seven groups, none of whom were really communicating with each other.

The theory that RFK, a guy from out of town, had any way to accurately compare total Arab to total Jewish forces is silly.

19 posted on 06/04/2008 6:49:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Biggirl
I agree, but it didn't bring it front and center, but it should have.

But you should call them Arab terrorists, not jihadists, you're confusing people since Sirhan was a similarly motivated Christian.

No difference in my mind, terrorists are terrorists.

20 posted on 06/04/2008 6:50:52 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Biggirl

I correct myself, was wrong on the word jihadi. Did not know that Sirhan Sirhan was a Christian.


21 posted on 06/04/2008 6:51:55 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: SJackson

Not knowing Sirhan’s religion and it being a missing jigsaw piece in this historic study is a reminder to get the facts straight.


22 posted on 06/04/2008 6:56:20 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
RFK by today’s standards would be like what we have seen in folks such as Joe Leiberman or Zell Miller...

Nope...absolutely can't agree with on this.If you study him closely,particularly after JFK was killed,you'll see that he would have turned out to be another McGovern,another McCarthy,another Ramsey Clark.He was an opportunistic multi-millionaire semi-Marxist when he died.

You've gotta trust me on this.I've paid close attention to the Kennedys (from close up) for more years that I care to admit.

23 posted on 06/04/2008 7:35:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; Biggirl
He would've been another Bill Clinton, too. None of that family could keep it in their pants.

Here's a couple of good books to shed a little light on the Kennedy family "character". They also have lots of interesting stuff about their assassinations:

Double Cross: The Explosive, Inside Story of the Mobster Who Controlled America by Sam (Author), Chuck Giancana

JFK And Sam: The Connection Between the Giancana And Kennedy Assassinations by Antoinette Giancana, John R. Hughes, and Thomas H. Jobe

Both Kennedy assassins were patsies that were set up to take the blame. The Chicago mob also bumped off a local mayor, Anton Cermak in 1933. They used another "single crazed gunman " as the triggerman, and made it look like it was an attempt on FDR, but they got who they wanted and the public bought it as a failed attempt on FDR.

24 posted on 06/04/2008 8:25:40 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Das Outsider

“Sirhan Sirhan was a Muslim?”

Nope, although today I heard the CBS News mistakenly say that he was. Sirhan was an Arab Christian. A coworker of mine worked alongside him one summer at Santa Anita Racetrack, shoveling out stalls.


25 posted on 06/04/2008 9:35:08 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Can you get sources to back up what you said please, it would be appriciated.


26 posted on 06/05/2008 3:24:53 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Slump Tester

Not suprising, Chicago and its crime and corruption seems to come into play.


27 posted on 06/05/2008 3:26:46 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Pelham

By today’s standard, he would be called an IslamoChristian, an Arab Christian but one that acted more like a Muslim.


28 posted on 06/05/2008 3:28:17 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
Can you get sources to back up what you said please, it would be appriciated.

My sources are his speeches.Read some of the speeches he made in the year or so before his death and you'll understand that he was the Barak Huessein Obama of his day.

As I said...I've been following the Kennedys for longer than I care to admit And I'm old enough to have had a draft card.For how long...and how closely...have you been following them?

29 posted on 06/05/2008 6:34:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Often when current events that will involve the Kennedys, be it with Sen. Ted and his battle with cancer, which included calling upon Sen. Barak to give the graduation speech at a Weslyin University or this year’s presidential contest, I tend to look back into history and in a special way when it involves those who had a hand in our country’s history.


30 posted on 06/05/2008 6:58:47 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: SJackson
Arab Christian, there were a number of Christian terrorists at the time, most prominent the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, still around though now Muslim. Marxist organizations, as are all (?-am I missing anyone) of the Arab terrorist groups. Big on hijacking and airport attacks. Arab terrorist would be better than jihadist in describing Sirhan, same motivation, but Christians have gotten out of the business, so I’m not sure there’s much harm. And as I noted, it was Arafat killing American diplomats to free him.

That's precisely why I asked the question: Sirhan was an Arab--not Muslim--terrorist. According to his father, he preferred 'Palestinian' over 'Arab Christian,' and that's precisely where Sirhan was coming from, though not in the sense that some today speak of "Palestinians," i.e., a monolithic Islamic people.

Nevertheless, his hatred for the state of Israel was like that of the Islamic organizations and teachings around at the time, and there may have been some influence in Sirhan's adolescence and early adulthood; but that again was probably closer to Arab nationalism than Islamic jihad.

In other words, we pretty much agree. Thanks for the clarification, SJ. ;)
31 posted on 06/05/2008 4:05:10 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Pelham
... A coworker of mine worked alongside him one summer at Santa Anita Racetrack, shoveling out stalls.

In fact, Sirhan aspired to be a jockey around that time, didn't he?
32 posted on 06/05/2008 4:10:44 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider

“In fact, Sirhan aspired to be a jockey around that time, didn’t he? “

I hadn’t heard about that. I suppose it’s possible considering his size.


33 posted on 06/06/2008 8:05:05 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Biggirl; Das Outsider

“By today’s standard, he would be called an IslamoChristian, an Arab Christian but one that acted more like a Muslim.”

I don’t recall any mention of Islam being an issue back in 1968. It seemed more that Arabs who had lost their land to Israel nursed a considerable grudge over that fact, be they Christian or Muslim. I’m not certain of what Sirhan’s motive was but I suspect it was along this line.

The Arab terrorist organizations that turned up in the 70s were Marxist and played a role in the Cold War. The man who shot the Pope for example. The first time I associated terror with Islam was Iran in 1979, and of course that was Iranian rather than Arab.


34 posted on 06/06/2008 8:13:59 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham
I hadn’t heard about that. I suppose it’s possible considering his size.

He very well could have, that is, were it not for that accident at the track. I imagine Sirhan would have blown his money at the track either way, as he was reputed to have done.

I heard that he was particularly vocal around his co-workers when it came to "the Jews" and Israel--at which of his handful of odd jobs, I don't know.
35 posted on 06/06/2008 8:25:05 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider

This seems to be a fairly good site for some Sirhan background:

http://www.crimemagazine.com/05/sirhansirhan,0906-5.htm


36 posted on 06/06/2008 8:28:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham
It seemed more that Arabs who had lost their land to Israel nursed a considerable grudge over that fact, be they Christian or Muslim. I’m not certain of what Sirhan’s motive was but I suspect it was along this line.

He moved to the U.S. when he was 12. It makes more sense to blame it on ouija board reading than political reasons. After all, what did Bobby Kennedy have to do with Palestinian grudges? It could have been he was PO'd at Bobby Kennedy over the death of Marilyn Monroe. It's far more likely that his blood was stirred by Marilyn between 12 and 18 years of age (when she "died") than by things going on back in Israel. I remember her death clearly and I was 10 at the time.

Sirhan was born in Jerusalem[1] to Christian Palestinian parents and was raised in the Maronite Church. In his adult life however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches, and dabbled in the occult.[2] His family, which moved to the United States when Sirhan was 12, briefly lived in New York, and soon moved to California.
37 posted on 06/06/2008 8:28:53 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I suggest you read the link I posted above.

Sirhan was an alienated character who identified with Arab nationalism, as did his mother. He felt deeply humiliated by Israel’s defeat of the Arab armies in the 1967 war.

That victory was being celebrated when Robert Kennedy was campaigning in 1968, and RFK was very outspoken in his support for Israel.


38 posted on 06/06/2008 8:45:21 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham
I don’t recall any mention of Islam being an issue back in 1968. It seemed more that Arabs who had lost their land to Israel nursed a considerable grudge over that fact, be they Christian or Muslim.

Less than a year after the end of the Six-Day War, Sirhan wrote one of the most explicit entries in his notebook regarding the assassination of RFK, though he appears to have been planning something prior to June, 1967. Some might consider Israel's victory Sirhan's point of no return (he chose the one-year anniversary of the start of the war for the RFK assassination), but I don't know that for sure. Johnson's approval of sending those bombers to Israel was probably the last straw for him, if it wasn't earlier. Sirhan blamed the decision on Robert Kennedy.

As I said in post 31, Sirhan preferred to be called a 'Palestinian' and spoke of the Jews (Israel) as an enemy of the Arabs as a whole. Sirhan grew up in an atmosphere where only half of the term "Arab Christian" or "Arab Muslim" really meant something.

I’m not certain of what Sirhan’s motive was but I suspect it was along this line.

That's what his parents said. Sirhan's father was sympathetic with his son's cause, though he regretted the RFK assassination, if even half-heartedly. Both mother and father Sirhan cited Arab nationalism and retribution for Israel's actions towards the Palestinian people as their son's motive.


39 posted on 06/06/2008 8:54:07 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Pelham
Less than a year after the end of the Six-Day War, Sirhan wrote one of the most explicit entries in his notebook regarding the assassination of RFK, though he appears to have been planning something prior to June, 1967.

And by "planning something," I don't intend to mean that he had it out for Kennedy in particular before that, though some have said that Sirhan had targeted RFK before he became known for his support of Israel. Ascertaining the "true motive" in that case, or just how Sirhan came to know of Kennedy's pro-Israel stance before it was really made public is where such an idea runs into potential roadblocks.


40 posted on 06/06/2008 9:07:53 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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