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Exclusive: Limited US attack on Iranian Revolutionary Guards bases in sight.
Debkafile ^ | 06/03/08

Posted on 06/05/2008 8:24:07 AM PDT by mulder1

Exclusive: Limited US attack on Iranian Revolutionary Guards bases in sight


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; alqods; attack; bombiran; debka; iran; iraq; proliferation; us
Our Washington sources report that president George W. Bush is closer than ever before to ordering a limited missile-air bombardment of the IRGC-al Qods Brigade’s installations in Iran. It is planned to target training camps and the munitions factories pumping fighters, missiles and roadside bombs to the Iraqi insurgency, Lebanese Hizballah and Palestinian terrorist groups in Gaza.

Iran is geared up for counteraction.

US intelligence estimates that Tehran’s counteraction will likewise be on a limited scale and therefore any US-Iranian military encounter will not be allowed to explode into a major confrontation. Because this US assault is not planned to extend to Iran’s nuclear installations, Tehran is not expected to hit back at distant American targets in the Persian Gulf or at Israel.

DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources report, however, that Iran’s military preparations for countering an American attack are far broader than envisaged in Washington. Tehran would view a US attack on the IRGC bases as a casus belli and might react in ways and on a scale unanticipated in Washington.

Two days ago, Iran’s defense minister Gen. Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar warned: “Iran’s Armed Forces are fully prepared to counter any military attack with any intensity and to make the enemy regret initiating any such incursions.”

According to DEBKAfile’s Iranian and military sources, the IRGC had by mid-May completed their preparations for a US missile, air or commando assault on their command centers and bases in reprisal for Iranian intervention in Iraq.

These preparations encompass al Qods’ arms, most of them undercover, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Sudan. At home, the Revolutionary Guards have evacuated their key bases together with manpower and equipment to regular army sites or temporary quarters in villages located in remote corners of eastern and northern Iran. Their main headquarters and central training center at the Imam Ali University in northern Tehran are deserted except for sentries on the gates.

Indoctrination seminaries and dormitories hosting fighting strength in the holy town of Qom are empty, as is the Manzariyah training center east of the capital.

Deserted too is the main training camp near Isfahan for insurgents and terrorists from Iraq, Afghanistan, Baluchistan, Lebanon and the Gaza Strip. It is here that they take courses from friendly al Qods training staff on how to sabotage strategic targets such as routes, bridges and military installations, and the activation of the extra-powerful roadside bombs (EFPs) which have had such a deadly effect on American troops in Iraq.

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1 posted on 06/05/2008 8:24:10 AM PDT by mulder1
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To: mulder1

DEBKA’s been predicting this for the last four years.


2 posted on 06/05/2008 8:25:32 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: mulder1

Oh boy. A limited attack.


3 posted on 06/05/2008 8:25:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: mulder1
Takin’ over Iran might bring oil down to $50/bbl?
4 posted on 06/05/2008 8:26:28 AM PDT by kcm.org (Soros declares crude oil prices are a bubble)
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To: mulder1

Limited attack...jeesh...did Bill Clinton suddenly become president again?


5 posted on 06/05/2008 8:27:40 AM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: mulder1

DEBKA? ........... Oh yeah, right, good intel source. sarc/


6 posted on 06/05/2008 8:27:50 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Where have all our Great Leaders gone? Certainly there must be one out there?)
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To: Allegra
NYT headline, June 5, 2175...

Sources say US attack on Iran imminent.
7 posted on 06/05/2008 8:28:43 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: Bringbackthedraft

What next? There Prime Minster is a crook!


8 posted on 06/05/2008 8:30:43 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Allegra

Where is the Drudge Siren?/Just Asking - seoul62.......


9 posted on 06/05/2008 8:30:48 AM PDT by seoul62
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To: mulder1

Well if DEBKA has announce it loud enough to have the mookies clear out these bases then I guess the false propaganda crap really does work. Keepem lookin over their shoulder 24/7 ad see how weary they get.


10 posted on 06/05/2008 8:31:59 AM PDT by Wavrnr10
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To: mulder1

Immanent every week for two years. DEBKA needs to smoke less of that strong stuff.


11 posted on 06/05/2008 8:32:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: mulder1

HOLY DEBKA!!!


12 posted on 06/05/2008 8:33:44 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Allegra

The leadership in Iran should be the target, not the IRGC (per Ken Timmermann).

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=1D7641E9-5820-4BC8-A74E-75BF57FEB5DE


13 posted on 06/05/2008 8:33:56 AM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: seoul62
Where is the Drudge Siren?/Just Asking - seoul62.......

Waiting on confirmation from Batboy.

14 posted on 06/05/2008 8:35:31 AM PDT by OSHA (framing it as though you've magically neutralized any potential negative eventuality)
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To: mulder1

“US assault is not planned to extend to Iran’s nuclear installations”

Ummmhmmmmm...... If you are going to do a job, DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! Damnit.


15 posted on 06/05/2008 8:36:10 AM PDT by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: Allegra

You have been looking for your socks for the last four years...


16 posted on 06/05/2008 8:36:28 AM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: OSHA

Thank you Osha./Just Asking - seoul62........


17 posted on 06/05/2008 8:37:01 AM PDT by seoul62
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To: Allegra

Why LIMITED?


18 posted on 06/05/2008 8:38:05 AM PDT by WayneS (America's Commies Love Their Obami !!!!)
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19 posted on 06/05/2008 8:38:29 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: WayneS

Ah, the old “Measured Response”.


20 posted on 06/05/2008 8:39:31 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: WayneS
Why LIMITED?

I'm not calling the shots. And Tehran should be mighty glad of that. ;-)

21 posted on 06/05/2008 8:40:13 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: JRios1968
You have been looking for your socks for the last four years...

I think they're in Iran.

High winds and all, y'know.

22 posted on 06/05/2008 8:41:27 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: mulder1

Where’s that Iraqi Air Force? Shouldn’t THEY be making the “limited” strikes?


23 posted on 06/05/2008 8:42:49 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Allegra

Yup


24 posted on 06/05/2008 8:44:50 AM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: Allegra

LOL


25 posted on 06/05/2008 8:49:04 AM PDT by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: Allegra
I have to agree with that. IMHO, we ought to team up with Israel and take out what needs to be taken out. The Muslim world respects force and the willingness to use it. Thats about it.
26 posted on 06/05/2008 8:50:59 AM PDT by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: mulder1
Never happen......**unless** we're prepared to go to full-scale war with Iran because if we launch a limited attack the 9th Century knuckledraggers in Tehran will go bananas.If they do,some of their missiles (or maybe most of them) will be headed to Israel and the Israelis will certainly know what to do if *that* happens.
27 posted on 06/05/2008 9:01:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Danae

If true, a big if, this may start limited but the Iranians will never be able to restrain themselves...watch all the EU yellow pukes start screaming for that US misslile defence...comeon let’s git er done!


28 posted on 06/05/2008 9:03:56 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: onedoug
Because this US assault is not planned to extend to Iran’s nuclear installations,...

Then what's the point??? Poke a finger in Iran's eye without touching their nuke plants? Of course this is DEBKA...

29 posted on 06/05/2008 9:07:49 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: mulder1
“Iran’s Armed Forces are fully prepared to counter any military attack with any intensity and to make the enemy regret initiating any such incursions.”

Oh, how I'd love to see us kick a**... Unfortunately, Debka's never right.

30 posted on 06/05/2008 9:12:41 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Obadiah

Just my humble guess that at the time of the surge and that weak Natl Intelligence Estimate, Gates got the administration to secretly promise no attack on Iran in return for Iran vastly reducing activity in Iraq. We do need to stabilize Iraq first, there may be a grand strategy here to peel Sunni Syria away from Iran, stabilize Iraq and avoid war with Iran.


31 posted on 06/05/2008 9:15:50 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

Good guess. That is basically what I postulated at the time the surge started having an effect.


32 posted on 06/05/2008 9:21:33 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: Allegra

Sigh. How many predictions of attacks on Iran have been made? Don’t bother me until the bombs are falling. And where has Bush learned how to make war in his second term? LBJ? Limited attacks, sending messages and all that. What happened to victory?


33 posted on 06/05/2008 9:26:51 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: Obadiah

I think that is what Pelosi is tying into with her comment about Iran’s “good will”. Of course there is no good will involved but I think she’s trying to let the cat out of the bag on what she knows or suspects.


34 posted on 06/05/2008 9:29:04 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Allegra
What a load of BS.If the U.S. is going to attack Iran it won't be limited.If it is it will only delay the inevitable.

Once Iran gets those Nukes she's building you can almost guarantee she'll be giving them to every terrorist group she sponsors and they will be used.Here as well as in Israel.

Its better to have an unlimited attack on Iran's military and strategic targets,especially her nuclear facilities than allow her to threaten civilization with destruction.

35 posted on 06/05/2008 9:31:09 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
What happened to victory?

If you could have seen Iraq four years ago and could see it now, you'd see victory.

Sigh. How many predictions of attacks on Iran have been made? Don’t bother me until the bombs are falling.

I didn't even post this thread, nor did I ping anybody to it. I merely dissed the source. I'm all for going after Iran.

36 posted on 06/05/2008 9:32:45 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: mulder1

Two interesting reasons:
1 - A limited strike against border sites might provoke an over-reaction from Iran, giving justification to strike further targets, including their nuclear sites. An interesting way to bypass political restrictions on a direct strike against nuclear facilities.
2 - Just leaking this information may have caused a defensive pullback from border sites, creating a lull or at least a delay in Iranian support inside Iraq that could be taken advantage of.


37 posted on 06/05/2008 9:33:09 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: mulder1
The Sky is falling .....the sky is fallling!
38 posted on 06/05/2008 9:33:51 AM PDT by badpacifist (Personal attacks on someones opinion of a "news article" you happened to post is asinine.)
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To: puppypusher
What a load of BS.

Pretty much what my post said. Perhaps I was too subtle in my disdain for DEBKA?

39 posted on 06/05/2008 9:34:41 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: mulder1
Hmmm, every target is not deserted, sounds like a success without firing a shot!
40 posted on 06/05/2008 9:42:04 AM PDT by BillT (God said it, that settles it whether I believe it or not! (Bible rules))
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To: mulder1
Both Chavez and Ahmadinejad are bold because they have powerful friends... We must be very careful.

From WorldThreats.com:
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.worldthreats.com/latin_america/Iran-Chavez%20Alliance.htm

From National Public Radio (NPR):
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

From the Russian News and Information Agency:
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html

New Pentagon Report: China's Growing Military Space Power
By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008

GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.

Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.

Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."

To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], go to (U.S. Dept of Defense) :
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf

Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
Reuters: Aug 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

U.S. Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers Flying Near Ships
Monday, February 11, 2008
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers flying unusually close to an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330362,00.html

"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."

_____________________________________________________________

Obama Promises to Dismantle Our Armed Forces
by Robert Maginnis
Posted 04/10/2008 ET


(Mr. Maginnis is a retired Army lieutenant colonel, a national security and foreign affairs analyst for radio and television and a senior strategist with the U.S. Army)

YouTube has an undated 52-second clip of Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barrack Obama outlining his plans for America’s national defense. Obama’s presentation demonstrates either total naivete about important national security programs or he is just pandering for votes among the extreme left.
[Maginnis does an excellent must-read analysis of Obama's suicidal defense proposals-ETL]
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25942

Note: Here is the *original* youtube video from the Obama camp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

Human Events refers to this poor quality copy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

41 posted on 06/05/2008 9:42:56 AM PDT by ETL
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