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Capture your car's CO2 and use it to re-power your vehicle - and your home
The Auti Channel ^ | 6/04/08

Posted on 06/06/2008 4:51:01 PM PDT by Libloather

Capture your car's CO2 and use it to re-power your vehicle - and your home

A new technology that can capture the carbon emissions from your car is about to be unveiled to the world for the first time.

Origo Industries has developed a system that captures the CO2 from your vehicle’s engine and then allows you to turn these emissions into fuel at your own home to re-power your car. The same fuel could also be used to power your house.

The system uses a revolutionary new approach where CO2 is regenerated through algae in a home unit, allowing the user to produce bio-oil (up to 2500 litres per year tax-free).

Origo Industries is displaying its technology for the first ever time at the UK’s largest Green Motor Show, Green-Car-Guide Live! 2008, sponsored by Masternaut Three X.

Green-Car-Guide Live! 2008 will take place on Thursday 12th June 2008 from 10am to 4pm at the new award-winning Arena & Convention Centre in Liverpool. The event is aimed at businesses and other organisations with vehicle fleets, and entrance is free, although admission will only be possible by pre-registration at www.Green-Car-Guide.com.

The 40 low carbon vehicles on display will range from city cars through to executive cars and commercial vehicles. Vehicle technology will include petrol, diesel, biofuel, hybrid and electric.

The cars on display range from the brand new Ford Focus ECOnetic, through the UK’s most economical 4x4, the new Subaru Legacy Outback diesel, to the Lexus LS600h, the new hybrid-power flagship of the Lexus brand, a 5 litre luxury limousine that emits just 219g/km of CO2. Apart from production cars, there will also be a fascinating range of other green vehicles on show. There will be examples of sustainable motorsport including the Oaktec Honda Civic hybrid rally car which recently finished second in class in the British Rally Championship Jim Clark Rally, the Jenkins Motorsport 100% Biodiesel Racing Truck prepared by Fleetsolve, and the Mammoth Racing Range Rover off–road rally car that runs on engine oil made from plants.

Other exhibits of interest include a New Holland 100% Biodiesel Tractor, an electric Smart Fortwo, a 2 tonne Modec Electric Van, a Smiths Electric Vehicles Transit Van, a gas-powered HGV, an electric taxi, and a Volkswagen Caddy van that runs on gas from landfill waste.

As if all that isn’t enough, the event will also include a seminar programme, and technical workshops run by Cenex showcasing UK supply chain capability, particularly in the commercial vehicle sector.

GreenerFleet™, a range of solutions that allow real-time monitoring and reduction of vehicle emissions, will be showcased by the show’s main sponsor, Masternaut Three X. These solutions include a live carbon calculator and mobile resource management systems that increase efficiency, lower costs and improve sustainability.

Green-Car-Guide Live! 2008 is organised by Green-Car-Guide.com, in association with Merseytravel’s ECOtravel Bureau, and sponsored by Masternaut Three X GreenerFleet, Cenex and the Northwest Regional Development Agency.


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CO2 is regenerated through algae in a home unit, allowing the user to produce bio-oil...

Can't you just picture grandma checking the algae as she whips up another fine batch of bio-oil?

1 posted on 06/06/2008 4:51:04 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

We’re saved. Thank God, L. Thanks for posting. We’re saved from our ruinous outcome.

:-)


2 posted on 06/06/2008 4:53:12 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Libloather; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Timeout; Entrepreneur; ...
 



Calculate your one-day Carbon Belch !

3 posted on 06/06/2008 4:54:28 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Libloather

Enviro-Bunk.


4 posted on 06/06/2008 4:54:35 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: Libloather

Don’t algae manage pretty well with the CO2 already in the air?

Now we have to bring home special treats for them? And then burn them, I suppose. It sounds rather cruel, come to think of it.


5 posted on 06/06/2008 4:54:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Libloather

Ok, ok, if this thing is real and works , all the average people want to know is ? how much it will cost ?


6 posted on 06/06/2008 4:56:05 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Libloather

You could probably run a Honda Civic on the exhaust that comes out of my Corvette.


7 posted on 06/06/2008 4:57:21 PM PDT by Liberty 275
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To: writer33
We’re saved from our ruinous outcome.

Instructions for leftists - start car - put lips over end of tailpipe.

8 posted on 06/06/2008 4:58:33 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
How much it will cost?

You're in the wilderness. Does it really matter?

9 posted on 06/06/2008 5:00:15 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather
What is Co2. Carbon Dioxide correct? What do Trees need to flurish? Co2!
10 posted on 06/06/2008 5:02:07 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Libloather

I’m sure the carbon digestion rate of a tank of algae would give the car a range of, what 50 feet an hour?

As a previous poster said, pure enviro-bunk. Well said.


11 posted on 06/06/2008 5:03:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: Libloather
" You're in the wilderness. Does it really matter?"
lol .....
But seriously, most people would use these new kinds of tech, but, when it all boils down to it, how much is it going to cost the average family.
12 posted on 06/06/2008 5:03:07 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Cicero
“Don’t algae manage pretty well with the CO2 already in the air?”

They do ok, but like most plants, they absolutely thrive on higher concentrations of CO2.
13 posted on 06/06/2008 5:05:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Libloather

So, each of us will have a biodiesel refinery in his back yard?

Or does the algae service come by once a month and collect the latest contributions from each residence?

And the algae farm has to be hermetically sealed, right? Otherwise, the CO2 will equilibrate with the atmosphere.

I think if you do a balance on this, count what volume of CO2 you would collect from burning the fuel, you would probably discover:

The size of your algae tank would have to be huge, and

The amount of fuel you would recover would be a fraction of the fuel you burned, with most of the balance of the CO2 escaping to atmosphere because once you have pressured up your algae tank, you have no place else to put the gas.

I could do a calc on this, but I’m tired of wasting my time debunking these crackpot schemes. CO2 is not our enemy.


14 posted on 06/06/2008 5:15:20 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Libloather
Can't you just picture grandma checking the algae as she whips up another fine batch of bio-oil?

Granny had so much trouble keeping algae out of the Cement Pond, I doubt that she'd willingly work with the stuff now. Besides, she's a long-time supporter of the Ethanol Lobby.


15 posted on 06/06/2008 5:16:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Libloather
Instructions for leftists - start car - put lips over end of tailpipe.

Good one. :-)

16 posted on 06/06/2008 5:20:35 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Libloather

This is completely stupid and impossible. You can’t burn CO2: it’s already oxidized.

When this scheme doesn’t come to market, though, I bet millions of people will subscribe to the paranoid explanation: rich oil companies sabotaged it, or they bought up the patents to protect their ill-gotten oil profits.

If people believe in Obama, they will believe in this.


17 posted on 06/06/2008 5:21:53 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: writer33

I think most of them could put their lips over the tailpipe and then start the car.


18 posted on 06/06/2008 5:22:11 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness; writer33
...how much is it going to cost the average family.

First, buy a huge tank to house enough algae to run a car on the residue. Second, buy a new car that runs on this garbage. What are we looking at - $50 grand?

Or keep the old car and poke a hole in the ground for more oil.

I just heard Massachusetts wants to charge property taxes on mobile homes and, more than likely, they can't afford THAT. Now they have to buy a huge tank and new car? They aren't gonna be jazzed.

19 posted on 06/06/2008 5:24:45 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather
Origo Industries has developed a system

Ok then, how much does it cost??????

20 posted on 06/06/2008 5:25:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Libloather

This shit is useless. The only thing on earth “powered” by CO2 is plants via photosynthesis. Which is a heaven inspired process I’ll admit.

You mess with algae in your house to recycle?? CO2 and you are in for one huge mess. Algae is wet and goopy and good luck drying it out to process into anything useful


21 posted on 06/06/2008 5:30:10 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Libloather

Marking...


22 posted on 06/06/2008 5:37:48 PM PDT by tubebender (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: Cicero
Don’t algae manage pretty well with the CO2 already in the air?

You know rational thinking is not allowed!

23 posted on 06/06/2008 5:40:51 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: Libloather
Gee, for the investment of only $120,000 and 3 hours of work a day...

Wake me up, Alice.

24 posted on 06/06/2008 5:41:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: tacticalogic
I think most of them could put their lips over the tailpipe and then start the car.

I bet they could. Too funny. :-)

25 posted on 06/06/2008 5:41:30 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: dennisw; writer33; AT7Saluki
Algae is wet and goopy and good luck drying it out to process into anything useful.

My grandma wouldn't stand for it. She was always too busy keeping the place SPOTLESS.

Although, I wouldn't mind seeing Paris Hilton hip-deep in a pool of algae just so she can arrive at an award ceremony she has no business attending.

26 posted on 06/06/2008 5:45:08 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather
Or keep the old car and poke a hole in the ground for more oil.

I'm for this. This is just all getting too stupid. Property taxes on mobile homes. That's a good one. Libs had to really think on that one. We're already taxing the property. Why not tax the homes as well? Idiots.

27 posted on 06/06/2008 5:45:32 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Rocky
Or does the algae service come by once a month and collect the latest contributions from each residence?

Wellll...

NO.

As we speak, the usual suspects are already working on ways to tax that, too.

Directly, or indirectly through taxes (to redistribute) on the rest of us who don't live in a trailer home (subsidies on "green" BS). That's all we need. Another 50 year subsidy.

28 posted on 06/06/2008 5:49:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Libloather
Although, I wouldn't mind seeing Paris Hilton hip-deep in a pool of algae just so she can arrive at an award ceremony she has no business attending.

Are you kidding? Paris Hilton. With all her talent? :-)

29 posted on 06/06/2008 5:56:59 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Libloather
The evidence is clear: enviros do not care about oil consumption or gas mileage, or even “greenhouse gases”. What is on display with all their demands is their yearning for a secular utopia, one in which evil, basic economics and unintended consequences can just be banished by the slightest good intention.

As proof of this, watch their reaction should anyone announce a breakthrough in lowering fuel consumption or in creating alternate forms of energy production. At best will be a very short lived cheer. Indeed, the greater the breakthrough the shorter the cheer, or the greater the silence will be. At its peak, such improvements will be met with hostility and blockage even as the action is being denied.

30 posted on 06/06/2008 5:57:03 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Liberty 275
You could probably run a Honda Civic on the exhaust that comes out of my Corvette.

You're so cruel to those of us not fortunate enough to own vettes!

31 posted on 06/06/2008 6:05:31 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Thebaddog

Not necessarily. Biofuels from algae is a promising technology. Read up.


32 posted on 06/06/2008 6:06:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: writer33
Paris Hilton. With all her talent?

Think Hardee's commercial.

33 posted on 06/06/2008 6:06:56 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
When they get gas from poop, I will read up. Until then, it's all dreaming and unintended consequences are the nightmare.

Eat a Mexican dinner and drive to Tampa the next day. Now that's sustainable energy with a carbon footprint that's negligible.

34 posted on 06/06/2008 6:17:57 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
When they get gas from poop, I will read up. Until then, it's all dreaming and unintended consequences are the nightmare.

Eat a Mexican dinner and drive to Tampa the next day. Now that's sustainable energy with a carbon footprint that's negligible.

35 posted on 06/06/2008 6:18:01 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: dennisw
"This shit is useless. The only thing on earth “powered” by CO2 is plants via photosynthesis. "

Correct and correct. The algae gets it energy from sunlight. Your pool needs to be pretty big to capture a significant amount of energy. You will be drying tons of the gooey gloop.

36 posted on 06/06/2008 6:19:31 PM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: Liberty 275
Hell, you could probably run a Corvette on the CO2 my Pug Dog produces.

Anyone want a Pug Dog? She's great with kids.

37 posted on 06/06/2008 6:22:46 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: Thebaddog
Eat a Mexican dinner and drive to Tampa the next day. Now that's sustainable energy with a carbon footprint that's negligible

ROTFLMAO!! BWAHAHAHAHA! Being Texan, I just realized that we'll corner that market, right on!

38 posted on 06/06/2008 6:24:42 PM PDT by brushcop (B-Co. 2/69 3rd Infantry Div., "Sledgehammer!" ...and keep hammering 'em!)
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To: brushcop

I’m not kidding. Put farts in the tank and we all win. Put the pipe up to the cows and we have a diesel alternative.


39 posted on 06/06/2008 6:26:08 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: Libloather
Think Hardee's commercial.

:-)

40 posted on 06/06/2008 7:08:51 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Not necessarily. Biofuels from algae is a promising technology. Read up.”

Yes, I could see this despite having read only a shallow smattering of prelim info. And let me be clear, if it works, I am 100+% for it.

However, and admittedly not having done the math; Thinking about the transpiration RATE of some car-contained pool or even multi-plate system of algae (to improve the surface area of algae) relative to the volumterics required to run a big heavy mechanical car thing.......is easily several orders of magnitude apart. I mean, you could theoretically have thousands of people blow up thousands of balloons and hitch them to a manifold collector and power an enormous very-low-friction turbine to power a car....but the scales of operation are just totally disjunct. To my eye.


41 posted on 06/06/2008 8:47:20 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: Thebaddog
I'm reminded of the old "natural gas powered shaver" gag gift. :-)

Seriously, I know of a waste water treatment plant in Ft. Worth that gets about one-third of its electrical power from "biogas" (methane extracted from a nearby landfill). Of course, the cost of delivering that methane via pipeline isn't mentioned... but I suspect a fedgov grant is involved.

42 posted on 06/06/2008 8:49:10 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I too cannot see a system to gather ans store CO2 that would use more energy than it consumes. Simply aerate the water and it will get all the CO2 the algae needs.


43 posted on 06/06/2008 9:02:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Thinking about the transpiration RATE of some car-contained pool or even multi-plate system of algae (to improve the surface area of algae) relative to the volumterics required to run a big heavy mechanical car thing.......is easily several orders of magnitude apart.

Decomposition of CO2 into C+O2 requires energy. Algae get such energy via photosynthesis. How fast can a car go powered only by solar energy, using the best available photovoltaic cells? Is there any reason to believe that a system relying upon photosynthesis could manage a better energy conversion ratio than photovoltaics?

44 posted on 06/06/2008 10:45:39 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Simply aerate the water and it will get all the CO2 the algae needs.

And where are the algae going to get their energy from? Only a certain amount of sunlight will hit a car. No matter how much is done to enhance plate surface area, the perpendicular surface area exposed to the sun will be a severe limiting factor.

45 posted on 06/06/2008 10:50:39 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat

“Decomposition of CO2 into C+O2 requires energy.

CONSIDERABLE energy, outside of p-synthesis!

“Algae get such energy via photosynthesis.

“How fast can a car go powered only by solar energy, using the best available photovoltaic cells?

You mean, lacking battery/reservoir storage? I am sure there is a fairly nominal formula that would take the footprint area of such a car, multiply by the max available efficiency of existing PV cells, and get a number in watts, divided by 746 = horsepower....then whack away some for wind resistance and tire rolling resistance. Remember Sunraycer? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunraycer
[this was late 80’s IIRC, certainly some improvements have been made since then]

Wiki says this thing could go 65 mph, of course this is running in the Aussie desert outback, blazing sunlight going. Nighttime? YMMV!

“Is there any reason to believe that a system relying upon photosynthesis could manage a better energy conversion ratio than photovoltaics?

Yes! For the algae! For the car? Seriously doubt it!

[confession: haven’t done ANY math on this proposition, the idea of carbon dioxide as a fuel of ANY effectiveness is...pretty damn far fetched to my late-night brain]


46 posted on 06/06/2008 11:09:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: docbnj

Let me tell you how an environmentalist would view this. It would take valuable C02 and create a C02 shortage. We’d have to create carbon taxes on these devices...and make these people pay for their crimes against the Earth. Lack of C02, would bring on global cooling, global warming, climate change, and maybe even another Rambo movie. We might starve or overfeed our society. Take your pick...in any fashion...its a bad thing.

It doesn’t take an idiot to see through the Green vision of life...and grasp that the end result has nothing to do with a better earth...just a more distributed system of wealth. It’s Robin Hood a thousand times over.


47 posted on 06/06/2008 11:56:33 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: supercat

I think you are confused. They don’t propose putting the algae tank on the car. The propose putting a device that will trap the CO2 on the car and then infusing the water in a stationary tank with it. Kapish?


48 posted on 06/07/2008 6:50:39 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Libloather

At Last!

Pie-In-The-Sky~!

But one statistical fact, if the entire World placed every square inch of agricultural land into producing crops for fuel, (Biodiesel, etc..) it would only provide us with about 24% of the current demand.

And who needs to eat anyway with all that “easy-clean” fuel we will have pouring in?


49 posted on 06/07/2008 6:56:49 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Charles Martel
Poop in the tank is a viable cycle in my humble opinion. Scientists are looking into the guts of termites to digest trees into gas. How is that viable when we are able to be the integral part of the cycle just by being?

The "brains" have to start with the big picture. Know what I mean?

50 posted on 06/07/2008 8:11:30 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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