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Military personnel harassed on subway
One News Now ^ | June 6, 2008 | Chad Groening

Posted on 06/06/2008 6:08:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A pro-family activist and former presidential candidate says it is outrageous that military personnel in uniform, who use public transportation while traveling to the Pentagon, are being publically harassed by anti-war leftists.

The Air Force recently issued a security advisory, relating several incidents where military personnel have been approached by individuals expressing themselves as anti-government and shouting anti-war sentiments.

Gary Bauer, Chairman of American Values, says in one case a woman in uniform was followed as she exited a Washington, D.C., subway train and a left wing thug continued to berate her as she exited the metro station. Bauer believes there is a limit to free speech.

"Freedom of speech, like all our liberties, has limitations on it. You can't drive a car down a suburban neighborhood at eleven o'clock at night with a loudspeaker on the top of it. And this fits into that category. When somebody is in a public place, they have a right not to be harassed," Bauer explains.

In fact, Bauer notes, harassment itself is against the law. "And in this case I would call it traitorous. If I'm on a subway or at an airport and see something like this happen, I for one will take action. I think this is an intolerable thing to be happening in our country," Bauer contends.

Bauer believes these protestors are being constantly urged by left wing blogs and websites to harass the military. And he says left wing politicians who compare U.S. troops to Nazis bear responsibility, too – as do those in the media who constantly present the troops in a negative way.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; antiwar; constitution; dcmetro; garybauer; harassment; leftists; military; protestors
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1 posted on 06/06/2008 6:08:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


2 posted on 06/06/2008 6:09:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

yes they are eager to fight their own

but would never serve in uniform


3 posted on 06/06/2008 6:11:30 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People who do this are the devil’s spawn and not worth defending.


4 posted on 06/06/2008 6:12:36 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is very unfortunate.


5 posted on 06/06/2008 6:12:46 PM PDT by navygal (retired navy and proud of it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is every where too.


6 posted on 06/06/2008 6:13:38 PM PDT by navygal (retired navy and proud of it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Heh lefties out there that think this okay and will do it, I am one of those guys that will gladly intervene and use the proper amount of force to resolve the situation. If that means going hands on and stomping a mud hole in ya, I will oblige.
7 posted on 06/06/2008 6:14:20 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; StarCMC

PING

This sucks.


8 posted on 06/06/2008 6:14:37 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Sadly, our British Coalition Partners are experiencing similar troubles

Discrimination against British soldiers in uniform to become a criminal offence (U.K.)

9 posted on 06/06/2008 6:14:48 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And I have to agree with Bauer, it IS traitorous. I certainly couldn’t stand by and do nothing either. B@stards!!


10 posted on 06/06/2008 6:15:02 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Freedom of speech, like all our liberties, has limitations on it.”

Wrong. Leave (all) our rights alone.

However, I can tell you a left-wing group will never harass a n American Soldier if I’m in the vicinity.


11 posted on 06/06/2008 6:15:02 PM PDT by Liberty 275
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DC Chapter ping.

Leftists harassing military in uniform on DC area metro.


12 posted on 06/06/2008 6:15:03 PM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Is this a perfect reason a woman, especially. needs to scream for the 2nd Amendment. A person in uniform is already trained in the use of firearms, let them carry and carry concealed.
13 posted on 06/06/2008 6:17:02 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Is this a perfect reason a woman, especially. needs to scream for the 2nd Amendment. A person in uniform is already trained in the use of firearms, let them carry and carry concealed.
14 posted on 06/06/2008 6:17:08 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is outrageous!


15 posted on 06/06/2008 6:17:20 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Liberty 275

Amen! Not on my watch!


16 posted on 06/06/2008 6:19:35 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They may harrass them but they are still “patriotic” and they still “support the troops.” Just ask them, they’ll tell ya! Scumbags!


17 posted on 06/06/2008 6:20:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: Flavius

Yes, you’re right. I LOVE this quote, I got it off a Free Republic article the other day. “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” John Stuart Mill, English economist and philosopher (1806-1873) Apparently still true today. Pass it on. God bless our troops!


18 posted on 06/06/2008 6:21:32 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: jrooney

I think I am of a similar mind. I hope I am put to the test.


19 posted on 06/06/2008 6:22:42 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: doc1019

I would think this would fall under citizen arrest.


20 posted on 06/06/2008 6:22:42 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Liberty 275

I’m a small person - 5’2, 100 lbs., but I’d be right there with ya!


21 posted on 06/06/2008 6:23:45 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

INFINITE GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


22 posted on 06/06/2008 6:23:51 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: jrooney

Me, too. And I’m big enough to not to have to. I just wish I didn’t have to work Monday through Friday, so I could ride the DC subway and stop such foolishness.


23 posted on 06/06/2008 6:25:36 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They ought to pass a law that says that a service member under verbal or physical assault while peaceably going about his business may respond by pounding the crap out of the offending party.


24 posted on 06/06/2008 6:27:10 PM PDT by Defiant (Leave it to the Dems to nominate someone so bad I may be forced to vote for McCain.)
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To: fishergirl

All I can say is...WOW!!!!


25 posted on 06/06/2008 6:27:59 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: antiunion person

I would give her few lessons in “krav maga”( free of charge):-))


26 posted on 06/06/2008 6:28:21 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: fishergirl

My son used that quote next to his senior pic in his HS yearbook 4 years ago. He just graduated from VMI...now a 2nd Lt. in the Army.


27 posted on 06/06/2008 6:28:27 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: fishergirl

I’m a big guy. 6’ 5” and 255 pounds. And I would stand with you.


28 posted on 06/06/2008 6:29:21 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I just finished one of Louis L’Amour’s westerns this morning. In those days people were polite, or else they were liable to get shot.

Unfortunately, few of our children are taught anything about proper behavior, honor, or the classical virtues in public school, still less religious values, which have been outlawed by the Supreme Court.

And it shows when they grow up.


29 posted on 06/06/2008 6:29:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mathurine

Considering the training our military receives today, I think I would be afraid to hassle anyone in uniform. Stupid is as stupid does, I guess. ;-)


30 posted on 06/06/2008 6:30:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: tsmith130

Thank him for his service, please. God bless him and your family. These young people never cease to amaze me. I am so, so very proud of all of them.


31 posted on 06/06/2008 6:33:10 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It is odd that the Moon-bats would call our troops ‘Nazis’ when their own appetite for violence and emotional rantings more clearly reflect the early days of the National Socialists. It is easier for them to key a car, bully a speaker or smash a window than to come up with a reasoned explantion of their views
32 posted on 06/06/2008 6:34:59 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: doc1019

“Considering the training our military receives today, I think I would be afraid to hassle anyone in uniform.”

It would do more harm to the Military and the Servicemen to start a fight in these cases, unless there was a physical threat. The fact that we are NOT hearing about these people having the Cr@p beaten out of them, says alot about the courage and dedication of these soldiers.


33 posted on 06/06/2008 6:36:07 PM PDT by stompk
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To: quikdrw

Thanks, I would probably need you, lol! I just absolutely LOATHE these people who do this! I’d like to put them all on a slow boat to Iran.


34 posted on 06/06/2008 6:39:56 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: fishergirl

From the looks of your tagline, you, your son and your family deserve some thanks too! We are truly lucky to have the military that we have. Which is why stories like this one just make my blood boil.


35 posted on 06/06/2008 6:40:40 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: navygal
This is every where too.

there is more support for our troops in the country than there is these scumbags - the traitors in the Halls of Washington have tried for years to whip up another Viet Nam scenario. They have failed - as they fail to understand this is a voluntary military. BIG difference. AND they know why they are where they are and they believe in what they are doing.

My grandson recently had a short leave home from Afghanistan. He was apprehensive about what kind of reception he would encounter. He was greatly heartened - here's a little of what he experienced:

He was surprised that everywhere he went on his leave (He was was in Texas and California with parents, other grandparents and siblings, ) he continually found people at restaurants, stores, hotels, on the street - letting him know how much they appreciated him and his fellow troops.

He even got the royal treatment from other troops on the plane coming stateside when they saw his insignia: "You're BATTLE COMPANY!" = Drinks were being sent from everywhere and his hand got sore from shaking.

From Houston to Corpus to California - he was treated like royalty everywhere he went. He was blown away.

Here's a couple 'excerpts':

Last week, he and his dad went up to Austin - my grandson is an accomplished guitarist, even played a full set on stage, when he was only 12, with the famous Blues man, Phillip Walker - so he wanted to check out the Blues bands in Austin. He was having such a good time, he suggested to his dad that they stay over night.

The hotel wanted $298 for one night. My grandson said: "Well, it's not that I couldn't pay that, it's that I wouldn't pay that to sleep anywhere for one night." (He had on a BATTLE CO. tee shirt) He asked: "Do you, by chance, have a military rate?" A smile lit up the clerks face. "Just a minute," he said.

He came back with the manager, who shook his hand and ... the results were that they got a top story, $498 room, for $98.

And when he got to the airport yesterday morning for the trip back, he was taken out of line by the airlines reps - he asked: "Is there a problem?"

"Yes," they said: "You do not stand in line. Come with us."

And they put him in First Class! He was stunned. But what a wonderful "icing on the cake" moment for him as he heads back to hell.

I tear up just thinking what this all meant to him as he feared the worse before he came stateside, what with what they hear in the media.

(an aside: he has one of his guitars with him at the his firebase and is their "official" entertainer..)

Note: Just talked with one of my son's who is a long-hauler. He was driving through Colorado today and was on the highway side by side with a convoy of troops who were head and shoulders visible to motorists.

He said every vehicle going past was cheering, waving and high-fiving them. He said the soldiers were waving back and grinning ear to ear.

Eat you black hearts out, you traitorous liberals. America is with our troops.

36 posted on 06/06/2008 6:40:51 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

During the bubba years the troops were told to say they were from Canada when travelling in Europe.

Pray we don’t go back to a dem CinC


37 posted on 06/06/2008 6:41:59 PM PDT by Carley
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To: maine-iac7

What a great inspiring story maine-iac7!!


38 posted on 06/06/2008 6:44:24 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s time to defend our military and our country.


39 posted on 06/06/2008 6:44:53 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: stompk

You are absolutely right … and I thank you for pulling me and my temper back down to earth.

I remember reading in a local NYC rag about a similar incident a few years ago.

Seems that some maggot infested hippy types were harassing a young soldier in uniform on the subway. Suddenly this old geezer of WWII vintage jumped between the long hair protesters and the soldier, stuck his finger down his throat and upchucked his breakfast on the leader of the jerk squad, turned around and saluted the soldier. Great story. ;-)


40 posted on 06/06/2008 6:46:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Time to implement asswhooping technik no.1 on said dirtbags.


41 posted on 06/06/2008 6:46:05 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Gary Bauer, Chairman of American Values, says in one case a woman in uniform was followed as she exited a Washington, D.C., subway train and a left wing thug continued to berate her as she exited the metro station.

Gary, go pound sand dumbass! Do you think for a second some brave American service woman gives a rat ass about getting bawled out by some left wing nutcase? I beleive they are a little bit more thick-skinned than Mr. Pussywhipped Bauer wants to give them credit for. The left wing thugs aren't worth the time of day.

Eventhough we don't like it sometimes, Free Speech is Free for everyone.

42 posted on 06/06/2008 6:47:45 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: maine-iac7

Heart warming to be sure.Thanks for posting.


43 posted on 06/06/2008 6:53:20 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: sirchtruth

Following someone out of a train while berating them is...free speech?


44 posted on 06/06/2008 6:55:12 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: fishergirl

Why go slow? Just strap ‘em to some rockets and fire away!


45 posted on 06/06/2008 6:55:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: doc1019

“You are absolutely right … and I thank you for pulling me and my temper back down to earth.”

don’t pull it down too much. there’s nothing stopping YOU from opening a can if you see it happen :-)


46 posted on 06/06/2008 6:56:54 PM PDT by stompk
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To: stompk

Trust me, it won’t. Had enough of this crap back in the VN era … been waiting years to vent! ;-)


47 posted on 06/06/2008 7:00:21 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: QQQQ

>>I would give her few lessons in “krav maga”<<

Exactly. Although :) I can’t say it’d be appropriate to spank idiots with big mouths, as deserving as they may be.

(Not to derail) but I am disappointed that Krav Maga instruction is hard to find in rural areas. The few classes I attended, I loved.


48 posted on 06/06/2008 7:05:01 PM PDT by Dominnae (When asked by a Persian emissary for his weapons, King Leonidas said "Come and take them.")
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To: tsmith130
Following someone out of a train while berating them is...free speech?

I recognize it's rude, tawdry, assholic, and completely devoid of respect, but yes, it is free speech, unless you can prove it's stalking or some other form of ordinance breaking.

The point I'm making is in this country people have the right to basically say whatever they want to anyone else without the fear of legally being harmed or thrown in jail for their speech. Now with that being stated, disorderly conduct comes to mind. Authorities have a broad jurisdiction to use this law for a host of unordinary circumstances.

49 posted on 06/06/2008 7:10:04 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: maine-iac7

Your post made my day ~ Thanks!


50 posted on 06/06/2008 7:13:16 PM PDT by happygrl
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