Climate-Change Collapse

Wall Street Journal ^ | 6/6/08 | Stephen Moore

[steelyourfaith]

Environmentalists are stunned that their global warming agenda is in collapse. Senator Harry Reid has all but conceded he lacks the vote for passage in the Senate and that it's time to move on. Backers of the Warner-Lieberman cap-and-trade bill always knew they would face a veto from President Bush, but they wanted to flex their political muscle and build momentum for 2009. That strategy backfired. The green groups now look as politically intimidating as the skinny kid on the beach who gets sand kicked in his face.

[steelyourfaith]

Those groups spent millions advertising and lobbying to push the cap-and-trade bill through the Senate. But it would appear the political consensus on global warming was as exaggerated as the alleged scientific consensus. "With gasoline selling at $4 a gallon, the Democrats picked the worst possible time to bring up cap and trade," says Dan Clifton, a political analyst for Strategas Research Partners….

Jobs were on the mind yesterday of Senator Arlen Specter, who has endorsed a tamer version of cap-and-trade. "Workers in Pennsylvania worry that this will send jobs to China," he tells me….

Senators also criticized Warner-Lieberman's failure to clearly specify what would happen with the vast revenues the climate bill would generate—some $1 trillion over the first decade, which environmental groups wanted as a slush fund to finance "green technologies." Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire insisted the proceeds be used for other tax cuts, like the elimination of the corporate income tax….

Republicans in the Senate this week did such a masterful job of picking the cap-and-trade bill apart with objections, yesterday Barbara Boxer of California was "pulling her hair out with frustration, " as one Republican leadership staffer put it.

[chaos_5]

The green groups now look as politically intimidating as the skinny kid on the beach who gets sand kicked in his face.

ha-ha!

Now to stall this madness long enough that they cant ignore the cooling trend that is happening.

[east1234]

Morons, their own worst enemy, thank God.

[chaos_5]

[east1234]

That’s climate change pal. /sarc off

[ichabod1]

Then they’ll want greenhouse gas generators to warm things up.

[jimbo123]

Democrats to America: Burn food, not oil!

[Parmy]

Heck! Out here in Yakima, WA we are at least 10 degrees below normal. Would like some warming. It is going to be 40 degrees tonight.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Don’t kid yourself about the failure of this measure to pass. They’ll be back again and, if they take the WH, they’ll pass legislation that’ll make Kyoto standards look like they were concocted by illegal toxic waste polluters. Besides, fewer Republicans than ever are willing to stand fast against the tide of idiocy - many of whom are actually parroting this dung.

[television is just wrong]

gas is .10 a gallon in Iran and Iraq

[ovrtaxt]

Exactly. And it doesn’t matter who gets elected, we’ll have this cap&trade tax shoved down our throats no matter what.

Get ready to bend over...

[chaos_5]

Or they will just point to Europe and thank them for their efforts to control climate change, because, despite the evil BushCo administrations efforts to destroy the planet, it’s starting to work.

[the anti-liberal]

Maybe there are some folk in congress who don't relish the idea of looking like fools when this becomes common knowledge:

Changes in the Sun’s Surface to Bring Next Climate Change

Today, Director of the SSRC, John Casey has reaffirmed earlier research he led that independently discovered the sun’s changes are the result of a family of cycles that bring about climate shifts from cold climate to warm and back again.

“We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sun’s surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet. This is not however a unique event for the planet although it is critically important news to this and the next generations. It is but the normal sequence of alternating climate changes that has been going on for thousands of years. Further according to our research, this series of solar cycles are so predictable that they can be used to roughly forecast the next series of climate changes many decades in advance. I have verified the accuracy of these cycles’ behavior over the last 1,100 years relative to temperatures on Earth, to well over 90%.”

[JasonC]

It doesn't matter. The dumber their policies, the sooner they die, politically. Nothing can save the left, not even incompetence among their political opponents. Power can't save them, elections can't save them, appeasement can't save them, American's desire for peace can't save them. They can't think, they can't face reality, consequently they cannot govern.

[preacher]

Wait untill next year.

These “environmentalists” are fanatics. They won’t stop their campaign untill the economy totally collapses.

[FlingWingFlyer]

If "BIG business" ever tried to pull off a money scam on the scale the enviromentalists have, the Senate would be holding firing squads everyday instead of hearings.

[Burkean]

I don’t understand why they can’t be satisfied with a happy medium that pushes whatever they can all agree on—like “conserve what you can, don’t litter, recycle when it makes sense to do so, don’t waste money and resources, etc. Why do they have to make some kind of new religion out of it and cram it down people’s throats? When I was growing up there were pushes to recycle paper, glass, plastic, and if you are interested in saving money you will also figure out ways to save gas, electricity, and water. But they have just run it into the ground and used very questionable science to back up their agenda.

[pjd]

Or they will just point to Europe and thank them for their efforts to control climate change...

Yeah, except that European emissions have increased more than the U.S.'s.

[chaos_5]

Yeah, except that European emissions have increased more than the U.S.'s.

That silly little fact doesn't mean a thing, after all the libs judge intentions not results.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Imagine how much we could reduce our “carbon footprint” if we sent those 30 million illegal aliens back to their home countries.

[353FMG]

“..all but conceded he lacks the vote for passage in the Senate,,”

Perhaps some democrats have a little common sense, after all.

[FJB2]

Actually it does. Despite your beliefs, McCains cap and trade was far more benign. Additionally, this is not a natural position for Republicans and those left in the Congress will be able to sway McCain from his position if he wants their support on other bills. With Obama there is no bargaining.

[littlehouse36]

[doc1019]

And the average wage in both countries is less than 100 dollars a week (55 in Iran, 75 in Iraq) … everything is relative. ;-)

[mo]

“Now to stall this madness long enough that they cant ignore the cooling trend that is happening.....”

Bingo there!!.. IMHO they were rushing this bill for that very reason!!

[devere]

This is overly optimistic. These enviro-nuts won’t give up this easily.

[steelyourfaith]

Before the 2006 election Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ was gaining very little traction politically. There were two obstacles in Congress: Senator James Inhofe, the then chairmen of the House and Senate on Environment and Public Works, and Richard Pombo (then House Resources Committee Chairman) through which any kind of Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ legislation would have had to pass—who ensured that no such legislation did.

During the 2006 election cycle, Pombo was targeted by green/ecotard groups and defeated by his Democratic rival. Senator Inhofe lost his chairmanship when the Democrats won a majority in the Senate. So the current push for "cap-and-trade" throttle on capitalism is a direct result of the Republican loss of Congress in 2006.

All, however, is not lost, as this Stephen Moore article indicates. The recent legislative reception of the Warner-Lieberman bill shows that cap-and-trade can be defeated. Although the bill was never expected to become law this time around (President Bush threatened to veto), this was supposed to be a test run, a show of strength on the part of the Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ advocates, who had hoped to put it over the top, perhaps as early as 2009.

Two reasoned arguments seem to have prevailed. The first being the obvious fact that this bill will make energy more expensive and cripple the economy, and the second being the fact that cap-and-trade is a vast reserve of corruption, special favors, and government subsidies.

 

Calculate your one-day Carbon Belch !

[marktwain]

“I don’t understand why they can’t be satisfied with a happy medium that pushes whatever they can all agree on—like “conserve what you can, don’t litter, recycle when it makes sense to do so, don’t waste money and resources, etc. Why do they have to make some kind of new religion out of it and cram it down people’s throats? When I was growing up there were pushes to recycle paper, glass, plastic, and if you are interested in saving money you will also figure out ways to save gas, electricity, and water. But they have just run it into the ground and used very questionable science to back up their agenda.”

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It is all about belief and power and defeating capitalism. Everybody can agree to be conservationists. The conservationists were drummed out of the “environmentalist” movement decades ago. Environmentalist is just the latest name for the bunch that wants to tell you how to live to make themselves feel superior.

[rbg81]

Or wait till some judge discovers that “cap and trade” is mandated by the Constitution. Who knew?

[FatherofFive]

We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sun’s surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet.

And the Democrats prepare to sue the sun to make it stop.

[okie01]

Two reasoned arguments seem to have prevailed. The first being the obvious fact that this bill will make energy more expensive and cripple the economy, and the second being the fact that cap-and-trade is a vast reserve of corruption, special favors, and government subsidies.

Neither "reasoned argument", however, will cut any ice with an enlarged Democrat majority and a Democrat President.

Indeed, the consequences are exactly what they are trying to achieve.

[Man50D]

Environmentalists Socialists are stunned that their global warming agenda is in collapse.

This has nothing to do with the environment folks. The environment is one of many means the socialists use to replace the Constitution with a strong centralized government that takes power and freedom away from the people. Don't be surprised sometime in the future they try to pass it again by attaching similar legislation to another bill such as military appropriations etc...

[goodnesswins]

June 1st - 7th......Auburn, Washington...please send us some Global WARMING!!!!

1
Actual: 58 | 50
Precip: 0.00
Average: 67 | 50
Precip: 0.05
2
Actual: 62 | 47
Precip: 0.03
Average: 67 | 50
Precip: 0.05
3
Actual: 58 | 48
Precip: 0.58
Average: 67 | 50
Precip: 0.06
4
Actual: 59 | 46
Precip: 0.26
Average: 68 | 50
Precip: 0.06
5
Actual: 54 | 47
Precip: 0.19
Average: 68 | 50
Precip: 0.06
6
Actual: 54 | 47
Precip: 0.37
Average: 68 | 50
Precip: 0.06
7
Forecast: 58 | 45
Chance of Rain
Average: 68 | 51
Precip: 0.06

[Arkansas Toothpick]

Since global cooling appears to be the newest paradigm, I fully expect the greenies to come out in force with some type of new proposed legislation in a year or two so that “we don’t all freeze to death.” You may laugh now but mark my words!

[steelyourfaith]

Clearly this issue is not over.

Those of us who just want to live the traditional American Dream are under constant assault by those on the left who are all about “change”. The least we can do is take some time out of our normal every-day-lives to let our elected officials know that we care and are watching them, eh?

[zacharycole]

How about a revenue neutral carbon tax? Use it to replace both corporate and individual income taxes. We could reduce the size of government and carbon output at the same time! ;)

[Thrownatbirth]

it would appear the political consensus on global warming was as exaggerated as the alleged scientific consensus.

It would be appear the masses have wised up to the scam.

[Enchante]

How about

AN INCONVENIENT POOF

[Humble Servant]

McQueeg’s on board with this crap, too.

[davisfh]

"Don’t kid yourself about the failure of this measure to pass. They’ll be back again"

You're absolutely right. Don't even dare think that this thing has come to an end.

[Rocky]

This is worthy of a celebration.

We have been spared, at least temporarily, from the effects of supreme idiocy.

[supercat]

I don’t understand why they can’t be satisfied with a happy medium that pushes whatever they can all agree on

Because the goal of modern "environmentalism" isn't to protect the ecosystem--it's to destroy capitalism. Protection of the ecosystem is merely the excuse.

[El Gato]

They won’t stop their campaign untill the economy totally collapses.

Even then, they won't stop it, they'll just enforce it at the point of guns, lots of guns.

[El Gato]

They are Watermelons, Green on the outside, but Red on the inside. Explains a lot. Some of the same people were touting the same basic “solutions” back before GoreBull invented “Global Warming” and “Global Cooling” was all the rage. Actually based simply on long term historical patterns, I believe Global Cooling to be quite real, sometime soon, in a geological sense. Soon could be starting now, or in a millennium or two. Although by the historical pattern, we are already a little overdue.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Same thing down here in the Bay Area. Still waiting for it to warm up. It’s been 5 - 7 degrees below normal for a long time. Nights in the high 40s.

[stylin19a]

been a long time since gas was .10 a gallon in Iran or Iraq.
Iraq is about 1.36 gallon now, Iran was about 60 cent a gallon for rationed gas in November 2007.

Strange cause iran doesn't have decent refineries and Iraq does. You'd think Iran's gas would be more expensive.

[HardStarboard]

God bless Mitch McConnell!

But now is not the time to celebrate, now is the time to go for the throat on the rabid EnviroNazis....they aim at nothing less than pure Socialism!

[HardStarboard]

>>>It is going to be 40 degrees tonight.

It's at least 6-8 degrees below normal in Seattle. Check the sun....Rurudyne does a great job tracking the suns warming force.

Rurudyne's Daily Global Cooling Watch!
Sun's low magnetic activity may portend an ice age http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1969680/posts

It's taking a break.....and it hasn't told Al.

[HardStarboard]

The problem with one sentence solutions to the worlds problems is that they usually aren't very well thought out.

Just a bit of embellishment of the idea might help...

[Steve Van Doorn]

greenies call it global change now. That way they can not be wrong.