Skip to comments.Asking the White Guys: Don't Try This at Home (Diversistas again)
Posted on 06/07/2008 7:04:31 PM PDT by flowerplough
I lead the diversity and inclusion function and we have 12 regional diversity councils that we bring together at a summit once a year. This year we are having a segment called "Ask the White Guys." Our objective is to include the white guy in the diversity conversation. Any suggestions or things we ought to think about as we moderate this segment?
I suggest you not do this.
Diversity management is a disciplined business subject that, properly implemented, drives productivity, innovation, profitability and sustainability. It does not mean that people have an open license to sound off on their opinions.
(Excerpt) Read more at diversityinc.com ...
"As an African American male I am concerned about inclusive (in this case the "White Guys") until there is some clarification ( ground rules). People of color and particularly Blacks need to have a discussion about their personal, yet similar experience being Black. When ever I have been in meeting to discuss diversity, the majority "White Guys/Girls" tended to "water down" the subject, make it too inclusive i.e., reminding everyone that they/parents are from foreign countries, migrated to the US and worked hard (not for free obviously) to get to where they are today. The problem (my opinion) is that these remarks point to a much more complicated problem, "race" ignorance, not exclusively among Whites. By the time everyone (People of color in attendance) finishes explaining/educating White on the history of Black American, Civil rights, etc. the intent of the meeting can be lost." (http://www.diversityinc.com/public/3639.cfm)
Looks like diversity simply means “shut your d*mned mouth cracker and do as you’re told!”
Ask if diversity means “division”
Ask if Diversity means we segregate into our own groups.
Ask if Diversity means we can join in other ways of life.
Ask if diversity means we have to stay with our own.
So... my opinion is wrong. That’s inclusiveness if I ever saw it.
So the white guy has no opinion?
How can it possibly be “diverse” without 75% of the population (white, I mean; not white men).
Maybe the "black guys" need to stop assuming that "all whites are racist and should pay reparations to black guys". Some of "my" ancestors "were" guilty---but they're long dead, and the (Yankee) ones that owned slaves later fought in the Civil War to free slaves. And I'm sure the "black guys" would be surprised to hear it, but my SOUTHERN ancestors never owned any.
Diveristy is racism.
Celebrating all the so-called wonderful attributes of diversity without free opinion, thought or speech.
The pendulum has swung.
When I was young, being white was an advantage, but the pendulum was just beginning to swing the other way. It picked up momentum, and when I was a young man, it seemed that equality was on the near horizon. Equality is ideal, and it’s what we should all strive to make happen.
I didn’t realize how widespread white guilt is in America. I also didn’t realize how racist the black race panderers could be. They have pushed the pendulum past center to the other side.
It is now a decided disadvantage to be a white male in America. A white male Christian? Forget about it. Anyone is free to offend me in any way. As for white males, even inadvertent slights to other groups can be costly.
I’m very sorry for what my sons will have to deal with, but the deck is stacked against them in the name of “equality”.
Deeter: There, I am insane now.
... too inclusive...
Including whites is “too inclusive”...does that means there is such a thing as “too much diversity” when it comes to the “black experience”?
...”the history” of Blacks in America is instead just one narrative that passes for group think on racial issues. Any exceptions that upset that narrative are just too much to accept in your view. Pretty lame.
How dare you offer your non-diverse opinion. Don’t you know that diversity is for everyone but you? /s
B*llocks to diversity and the sham cottage industry that has grown up around it.
Show up, do your job and go home. End of.
We don’t care what color you are, what music you listen to, or what religion you practice.
If any of those three things constitute your “job” then you are a charlatan and anyone else paying money to rid themselves of the “sin” of meritocracy is wasting their cash.
“Diversity” is often code talk for “down with whitey.”
Like many people, I am tired of being expected to feel guilty. And even if I did buy into “white guilt” no amount of groveling would ever satisfy the hate filled people who demand this.
But it ain't "equality", is it?
I am guessing that by the tone of this irrational rambling that the author of this particular response sees the intent of these kinds of meetings as being a way to show whitey how they have oppressed and continue to oppress blacks.
I see stuff like this from black people far too often yet whenever you hear talks about racism it is always in the form of a lecture to white people. The race baiters do have one thing right though, this IS a racist country. Only the racism and bigotry much more often than not comes from blacks who expect and demand special treatment because of what happened to their ancestors a over a century ago. Race relations will never be that great until one particular race, or the many races in this country, finally stops playing the victim at every turn.
I had 2 great great grandfathers fight during the Civil War. One was seriously wounded at the battle of Pleasant Hill, LA. Another gr gr uncle was killed at Gettysburg. Paying the ultimate price.
None of my relatives owned slaves....but one of my first relatives to come to these shores was an indentured servant...taken prisoner in Scotland and brought over here. There were many indentured servants brought to America, should their descendants sue for reparations from England and Scotland ? Or from our own government for allowing such practices to exist?
You know what’s really sad? I had completely forgotten that I was raised with that as the ideal for America, until you mentioned it.
I was going to go on... but the negativity won’t help, so I’ll just say I’m very pessimistic about America’s future.
“But it ain’t “equality”, is it?”
That’s why the quotes. The race baiters and self hating white libs think it is. Actually, they know it’s not equality, but they enjoy the payback.
Hell no. This is what the liberals mean by "diversity":
Diversity, in corporate America, is just a way to hire incompetent people.
The reason is the to keep the race hustling poverty pimps (Jesse Jackson and his ilk) from coming after the companies.
Good people of any skin color do not need stupid “diversity” programs.
It may not exactly be "equality" but, my goodness, it's fair!
And isn't that what we really want for everybody? Fairness?
As defined by...who?
“People of color in attendance) finishes explaining/educating White on the history of Black American”
Translation: after we explain why something that happened to our ancestors 400 years ago makes us totally incapable of being educated, working, competing or even learning standard English and why it’s your responsibility (White) to make amends for this 400 year old injustice, even though the only commonality you share with the perpetrators is your skin tone. And we still don’t think you really get it.
“I told him there was a big problem with his theory. A pendulum always swings back the other way.”
I agree. I feel my own disgust and impatience with multiculturalism and diversity as it’s practiced in America today. I am not a young man, if I were, I’m fairly certain this would translate to rage.
Here is the problem. Power is being transferred on the basis of skin color only. Ability is barely even a consideration. What happens when you allow the incompetent, and incapable run things? Worse yet, you get people in positions of power that are more concerned with making whitey pay, then getting the job done.
This swing of the pendulum is going to break things in a significant way. And when it swings back, it won’t be pretty.
Diversity is the sham altar before which the Disciples of Divisiveness genuflect.
I was gonna say "Balkans got diversity; fat lot of good it does them".
That fixes it.
Al Queda from without. P.C. from within. Which is the greater threat?
Because, without the media, al-Queda would've been defeated long ago and P.C. would've been dismissed for the silliness that it is.
Zimbabwe is what happens.
Ask if diversity means divide and conquer and distract so that the powers that be (no color line)can implement their agendas preferably without our interference and sometimes knowledge.
I just sent this message to them:
I have NO IDEA what it is you are trying to say, but underneath it all is a level of ignorance and plain stupidity that is abysmal. After well over 20 years service in the Marine Corps, I can assure you from long experience that your “advice” is pure, unadulterated drivel. We, as a nation, need to emphasize our COMMON HERITAGE AND TRAITS. Your brand of “diversity” is nothing less than the Balkanization of this country and the attendant racial warfare it will necessarily entail.
And you actually demand to get PAID for typing this sort of stupidity? My best suggestion to you would be to go forth and get a life of your own and stop being a parasite on the rest of us. I just cannot believe that you actually had the nerve to say things like this. You’re as bad as the Race Pimps, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
In other words, control the masses no matter what color they are.
That's what was wrong with America.
“By the time everyone (People of color in attendance) finishes explaining/educating White on the history of Black American, Civil rights, etc. the intent of the meeting can be lost.”
Educating White? Good to know that whites have no perspective or valuble input. After you “educate” us then what?
“Divide and conquer” is exactly what they are doing. Nicely stated.
I once made the mistake of joking with a coworker that the only way a middle aged, white, and male could become protected by diversity was to become gay.
He soon transitioned to “transgendered”.
(s)he later argued about diversity and protection of minorities with a black female.
“You don’t know what it is like to have society against you. How can you understand discrimination? Or being a minority?”
“If you look around, there are a whole lot more people who look like you than who look like me.”
Trangendered, still employed. Black female, no longer.
I always wished I had walked out before the end of the 1st day. I think I would do so for one of these sessions.
Even on the moon, they’re racist.
Anyone else notice that PC only covers minorities and women?